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Apple Mail and Thoth in 10.2 both timeout and say they cannot reach the servers when I use the computer after first turning it on or after returning after an absense. I'm assuming that 10.2 is not waiting long enough for the DSL connection to start or restart. I'm using a router, not software PPPoE. Is there any way to adjust the timeouts so that this won't happen? I'm not experiencing this problem with Windows XP or 98. Thanks....

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    Apple Mail and Thoth in 10.2 both timeout and say they cannot reach the
    servers when I use the computer after first turning it on or after
    returning after an absense. I'm assuming that 10.2 is not waiting long
    enough for the DSL connection to start or restart. I'm using a router,
    not software PPPoE. Is there any way to adjust the timeouts so that
    this won't happen? I'm not experiencing this problem with Windows XP or
    98.

    Thanks.
    NN Guest

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    NN <nn1.org> wrote:
     

    This is a good question, and I experience the same thing myself, but
    since the program just connects when you ask it a second time
    (immediately after the error message), I really don't see it as much of
    a problem. m.

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    In article <1gbo192.v58kjkt5ptl0N%com>,
    com (matt neuburg) wrote:
     
    >
    > This is a good question, and I experience the same thing myself, but
    > since the program just connects when you ask it a second time
    > (immediately after the error message), I really don't see it as much of
    > a problem. m.[/ref]

    I had this _before_ switching to DSL, but don't see it now. It wasn't a
    problem, but it became very very annoying after a short time.
    --
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    Kevin Guest

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    NN wrote: 

    Is the router doing PPPoE? Or is static?

    Greg

    G.T. Guest

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    In article <z0Gbc.17940$news.prodigy.com>, G.T.
    <com> wrote:
     
    >
    > Is the router doing PPPoE? Or is static?[/ref]

    It's doing PPPoE.
    NN Guest

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    In article <030420041234130114%nn1.org>, NN <nn1.org>
    wrote:
     

    Using software PPPoE might solve the problem. The OS will then know
    that it must wait for the network to come up.

    An even better solution is to find an ISP that uses bridged DSL. PPPoE
    is a hack to make DSL work with older configurations based on dialup
    PPP. You'll have better performance, no login lag, and the ability to
    take incoming connections with bridged DSL.
    Kevin Guest

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    Kevin McMurtrie wrote: 
    >
    >
    > Using software PPPoE might solve the problem. The OS will then know
    > that it must wait for the network to come up.
    >
    > An even better solution is to find an ISP that uses bridged DSL. PPPoE
    > is a hack to make DSL work with older configurations based on dialup
    > PPP. You'll have better performance, no login lag, and the ability to
    > take incoming connections with bridged DSL.[/ref]

    I agree. I got rid of PPPoE years ago and haven't been happier with my
    connection.

    Greg

    G.T. Guest

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    G.T. <com> wrote:
     

    PPPoE is evil, but you don't always have a choice.

    I've got my router set so that it always maintains its PPPoE connection, and
    immediately brings it back up if it drops. I have literally never seen this
    problem come up.

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    Jeremy | com
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