1MB for 500 dollars?

[blackheart45]

Ok,I just bought the lic to the flashcom server personal ed.
correct me if im wrong, but 1MB is that per connection? or is that 1MB shared
between 50 connections?

Maximum Megabits per second Maximum Connections Price Expiration

I know from the sample_videoconferance I can not operate one cam and a chat
with two people in it!

[blackheart45]

No replies????

My Question still stands, Is it 1 MB Shared between 50 users? Or 1 MB per
person with 50 connections allowed?

Do I have the ability now to provide 50 users with 50 connections after
paying five hundred dollars?

Or Do I have the ability to provide 1 cam and 2 or 3 users?

If I had known it was going to take $7,500 for me to develop anything worth
having!
I might not have invested the first one!


What is it? 1 per person or 1 MB shared between fifty?

Truth in advertisement would have said, 1MB shared between fifty people.

From what I am seeing and in reality that is about 50 connections that do
nothing at all...
Or 1 cam and 2 viewers maybe! At 192 X 192 (7) and someone else can view
you. If you add one sound stream you pay 500.00 for the server that will server
two people at the max! Two people on cam sill lock it up!

Its not worth it unless you pay the 7500.00

[maddogg54]

Ok here is the skinny,

it is 1MB cap up to 50 users. Let me explain: you can with a live video feed
get your 1MB cap with a couple of users, or if you are making a chat room (text
only) get 50 users and not hit the 1MB cap, it is whatever is reached first. As
for your cam feed you can limit bandwith on a piblished stream to support more
users. It just sounds like you need to do that.

[RusD]

blackheart45 wrote:

> Ok,I just bought the lic to the flashcom server personal ed.
> correct me if im wrong, but 1MB is that per connection? or is that 1MB shared
> between 50 connections?
>
> Maximum Megabits per second Maximum Connections Price Expiration
>
> I know from the sample_videoconferance I can not operate one cam and a chat
> with two people in it!
>

You can have 50 users connected at once
And you FCS supports bandwidth 1 Mbit/s
Your bandwidth meens connected people summary speed can not be 1
Mbit/sec (about 128 Kbytes/sec ). As usual it's anought for 5-10 people
to communicate with camera and microphone, although this depends of
camera quality and resolution.

[blackheart45]

1 MB shared between 50 users is maybe enough to give each one a connection
light. And who in the heck would want a chat room written with Action Script
when you have perl and jave out there? The only good thing about flash is it's
ability to stream video, and you can not do that with 1MB shared between 50
people!

If you find enough idiots like me to rip off like that, then you should by
pass Bill Gates in no time at all! Don't think i been ripped off this bad
since I bought the webconference system! That wouldn't even run on my server!

Your One MB shared between 50 users isn't worth my time to screw with much
less worth the money I paid for it! MacroMedia.. A bunch of pirates, Thank you!

And with that, I'll have nothing more to do with you'll...

*poofism and goners*:P:frown;

[AmnISaid]

The Flash Communication server license cost is pathetic and very overpriced.
Let me explain: A license of 1Mbit per second is in practice not much at all
(if it was before), because of the way FlashCom calculates the bandwidth. 1.
The 1Mbit/s is a TOTAL bandwidth, meaning sum of outgoing and incoming data per
second. 2. The effective formula for a video chat, by that I mean where people
chat toghether in a group where everybody can see everybody else video stream
and is: b = bi + bo where bi = n * s and bo = n * (n - 1) * s where b -
total bandwidth, subject to license limit bi - downlink bandwidth (server
incoming) bo - uplink bandwidth (server outoing) n - amount of users
participating s - bandwidth used per stream, for average video chat with
headshots, is approx. 1Kb/s So for lets say 20 users at the same time you
have: = 20 * 1 + 20 * 19 * 1 = 400Kb/s = 3.2Mbit/s You can see how much
bandwidth you need just to make a chat with 20 people each seeing 19 headshots
80x60 refreshing once each 2 seconds (yes, this is what 1Kb/s stream can do).
I came into this by my own will with not many expectations and no prejudice,
but I really think Macromedia is going too far with these prices (2500 users,
10Mbit/s license costs 7000$ as far as I know (confirm?)) . At least for
individuals this is not an option. The future is P2P :D

[Berzy]

yeah P2P has it's advantages.... but considering there is no server to re-route
the streams.........instead of a user sending one up-stream to the server and
then the server routing it to all connected clients....he/she would have to
send a stream to each connected user. considering a connections upload is
usually slower then download it might be too intensive for many-many video
apps..... and i think the price of the license is closer to $5000 US.... still
expense

[Laczko]

Berzy,

Do you know some developers, who can develop p2p a/v chat application for 5000$, I am interested. Is developer give me unlimited license? Please give me his contact info.

Laszlo

[hunter3969]

FCS is a good product as AUDIO server.
As VIDEO server, image LAG will be a BIG problem, because costly FCS server bandwidth is limited.
Am I right??