3D Studio Max or Maya?

[Frank_S]

Hi,

I would like to learn 3D animation but don't know which software to buy. Does
anyone have any advice on whether 3D Studio Max or Maya is better? I would be
mainly using it for visualization but would like to get into 3D game design.

Thanks,
FrankS

[bsx06]

me, personally, i would get max. Just becuase i'm a long time user. Also, with
it, get the certifeied " FinalRender ". This Render, will take you to a huge
step towards 3d animations and all. In a lot more cases, discreet max has more
3rd party. What i mean is that max have more support and the leader in that
category who are willing to make new plugins/. but this is just my opionoin.
I've touch maya here and there, but i just kept on coming back to max,
everything seems to be more advance and easy at the same time. It's awsome man.
Get max instead.

For making games. Like me, i'm learning to use director to create
games. export from max. you can also from maya too.


[url]http://discreet.com[/url]

-gmax

[Rafael Martín]

No MAX no Maya. Good ART Games are made by Softimage users.

I prefer Softimage 3D or Softimage XSI like the big ones.

check [url]http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/v3/games/[/url]

or

[url]http://www.softimage.jp/xsi_img_glry_index.htm[/url]

some games made with softimage XSI or 3D are

Valve: Half-Life 2
Activision: Soldier of fortune 1 & 2
Activision: Dark Reign 2
Activision: Battlezone 1 & 2
Capcom: Resident Evil/Biohazard 0, 1, 2, 3 & nemesis
Capcom: Star Gladiator
Capcom: Devil May Cry 2
Capcom: Onimusha 1 & 2
Curly Monsters: Quantum redshift
Curly Monsters: n-Gen racing
Cyan: Riven
Electronic Arts: Fifa 2003
Electronic Arts: NBA Live 2003
Electronic Arts: NBA Street Vol. 2
Fasa: Mechwarrior 3
From Software: Armored Core 3
Infogrames: Alone in the dark
Infogrames: Grand prix challenge
Konami: Anubis
Konami: Silent Hill 1, 2 & 3
Konami: Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2
Namco: Dead to Rights
Namco: Pacman World 2
Namco: Soul Calibur
Namco: Tekken 1, 2, 3 & 4
Namco: Tekken Tag Tournament
Namco: Mappy Park
Nintendo: Pikmin
Nintendo: Super Mario64
Nintendo: Smash Brothers
Nintendo: Zelda64
Nintendo: Luigi's Mansion
Pandemic: Star Wars:The Clone Wars
Psygnosis: Colony wars
Psygnosis: Codename: Tenka
Psygnosis: Wipeout
Psygnosis: Wipeout XL/2097
Psygnosis: Wipeout 3
Raven Software: Soldier of Fortune
Sega: Shinobi
Sega: F-Zero
Sega: The House of the Dead 3
Sega: Rez
Sega: Super Monkey Ball
Sega: Virtua Fighter 1, 2 & 3
Sega: VF4
Sega: Shenmue
Sega: Jet Set Radio
Sega: Panzer Dragon 1 & 2
Sega: Space Channel 5 1 & 2
Sega: NFL 2K3
Square-Enix: Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10,11&12
Square-Enix: Bouncer
Tecmo: Dead or Alive Extreme Beach VolleyBall

Just kidding, just choose the software that fits you best.

regards.

raf



"Frank_S" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Hi,
>
> I would like to learn 3D animation but don't know which software to buy.

Does

> anyone have any advice on whether 3D Studio Max or Maya is better? I would

be

> mainly using it for visualization but would like to get into 3D game

design.

>
> Thanks,
> FrankS
>

[necromanthus]

I have to admit that SoftImage XSI is a great piece of work.
But 3DS MAX 6 has the best W3D exporter ,so ... find the answer yourself.
cheers

[zippy]

Have you ever actually tried using Softimage? I'm aware that some of the
best movies and games are created with Softimage, but it has a very steep
learning curve compared to Max. I know, I'm a 3DS Max user and I took a
Softimage class.

Valve says that the release of Half-Life 2 is due to hacking and all that...
but I'm wondering if it's really because their artists are having such a
tough time learning Softimage. :)

Steve


"Rafael Martín" <rafa@sintesys.net> wrote in message
news:c4r3ua$5jt$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> No MAX no Maya. Good ART Games are made by Softimage users.
>
> I prefer Softimage 3D or Softimage XSI like the big ones.
>
> check [url]http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/v3/games/[/url]
>
> or
>
> [url]http://www.softimage.jp/xsi_img_glry_index.htm[/url]
>
> some games made with softimage XSI or 3D are
>
> Valve: Half-Life 2
> Activision: Soldier of fortune 1 & 2
> Activision: Dark Reign 2
> Activision: Battlezone 1 & 2
> Capcom: Resident Evil/Biohazard 0, 1, 2, 3 & nemesis
> Capcom: Star Gladiator
> Capcom: Devil May Cry 2
> Capcom: Onimusha 1 & 2
> Curly Monsters: Quantum redshift
> Curly Monsters: n-Gen racing
> Cyan: Riven
> Electronic Arts: Fifa 2003
> Electronic Arts: NBA Live 2003
> Electronic Arts: NBA Street Vol. 2
> Fasa: Mechwarrior 3
> From Software: Armored Core 3
> Infogrames: Alone in the dark
> Infogrames: Grand prix challenge
> Konami: Anubis
> Konami: Silent Hill 1, 2 & 3
> Konami: Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2
> Namco: Dead to Rights
> Namco: Pacman World 2
> Namco: Soul Calibur
> Namco: Tekken 1, 2, 3 & 4
> Namco: Tekken Tag Tournament
> Namco: Mappy Park
> Nintendo: Pikmin
> Nintendo: Super Mario64
> Nintendo: Smash Brothers
> Nintendo: Zelda64
> Nintendo: Luigi's Mansion
> Pandemic: Star Wars:The Clone Wars
> Psygnosis: Colony wars
> Psygnosis: Codename: Tenka
> Psygnosis: Wipeout
> Psygnosis: Wipeout XL/2097
> Psygnosis: Wipeout 3
> Raven Software: Soldier of Fortune
> Sega: Shinobi
> Sega: F-Zero
> Sega: The House of the Dead 3
> Sega: Rez
> Sega: Super Monkey Ball
> Sega: Virtua Fighter 1, 2 & 3
> Sega: VF4
> Sega: Shenmue
> Sega: Jet Set Radio
> Sega: Panzer Dragon 1 & 2
> Sega: Space Channel 5 1 & 2
> Sega: NFL 2K3
> Square-Enix: Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10,11&12
> Square-Enix: Bouncer
> Tecmo: Dead or Alive Extreme Beach VolleyBall
>
> Just kidding, just choose the software that fits you best.
>
> regards.
>
> raf
>
>
>
> "Frank_S" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:c4pl7q$eji$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to learn 3D animation but don't know which software to

buy.

> Does

> > anyone have any advice on whether 3D Studio Max or Maya is better? I

would

> be

> > mainly using it for visualization but would like to get into 3D game

> design.

> >
> > Thanks,
> > FrankS
> >

>
>

[lilnyc]

I agree.

I took classes on Maya and was pretty enthused the more I got used to it, but
I exported a w3D for Director and could barely find it. When I did and imported
it into Director, I wasn't impressed with the quality.

Max on the other hand, I created 4 simple blocks, exported the file right to
my desktop, imported it into Director and it looked great.

[Rafael Martín]

I have used softimage since 13 years also Max and some other 3d software I
no doubt prefer softimage xsi.

raf



"zippy" <zippy@zippy.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Have you ever actually tried using Softimage? I'm aware that some of the
> best movies and games are created with Softimage, but it has a very steep
> learning curve compared to Max. I know, I'm a 3DS Max user and I took a
> Softimage class.
>
> Valve says that the release of Half-Life 2 is due to hacking and all

that...

> but I'm wondering if it's really because their artists are having such a
> tough time learning Softimage. :)
>
> Steve
>
>
> "Rafael Martín" <rafa@sintesys.net> wrote in message
> news:c4r3ua$5jt$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> > No MAX no Maya. Good ART Games are made by Softimage users.
> >
> > I prefer Softimage 3D or Softimage XSI like the big ones.
> >
> > check [url]http://www.softimage.com/products/xsi/v3/games/[/url]
> >
> > or
> >
> > [url]http://www.softimage.jp/xsi_img_glry_index.htm[/url]
> >
> > some games made with softimage XSI or 3D are
> >
> > Valve: Half-Life 2
> > Activision: Soldier of fortune 1 & 2
> > Activision: Dark Reign 2
> > Activision: Battlezone 1 & 2
> > Capcom: Resident Evil/Biohazard 0, 1, 2, 3 & nemesis
> > Capcom: Star Gladiator
> > Capcom: Devil May Cry 2
> > Capcom: Onimusha 1 & 2
> > Curly Monsters: Quantum redshift
> > Curly Monsters: n-Gen racing
> > Cyan: Riven
> > Electronic Arts: Fifa 2003
> > Electronic Arts: NBA Live 2003
> > Electronic Arts: NBA Street Vol. 2
> > Fasa: Mechwarrior 3
> > From Software: Armored Core 3
> > Infogrames: Alone in the dark
> > Infogrames: Grand prix challenge
> > Konami: Anubis
> > Konami: Silent Hill 1, 2 & 3
> > Konami: Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2
> > Namco: Dead to Rights
> > Namco: Pacman World 2
> > Namco: Soul Calibur
> > Namco: Tekken 1, 2, 3 & 4
> > Namco: Tekken Tag Tournament
> > Namco: Mappy Park
> > Nintendo: Pikmin
> > Nintendo: Super Mario64
> > Nintendo: Smash Brothers
> > Nintendo: Zelda64
> > Nintendo: Luigi's Mansion
> > Pandemic: Star Wars:The Clone Wars
> > Psygnosis: Colony wars
> > Psygnosis: Codename: Tenka
> > Psygnosis: Wipeout
> > Psygnosis: Wipeout XL/2097
> > Psygnosis: Wipeout 3
> > Raven Software: Soldier of Fortune
> > Sega: Shinobi
> > Sega: F-Zero
> > Sega: The House of the Dead 3
> > Sega: Rez
> > Sega: Super Monkey Ball
> > Sega: Virtua Fighter 1, 2 & 3
> > Sega: VF4
> > Sega: Shenmue
> > Sega: Jet Set Radio
> > Sega: Panzer Dragon 1 & 2
> > Sega: Space Channel 5 1 & 2
> > Sega: NFL 2K3
> > Square-Enix: Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10,11&12
> > Square-Enix: Bouncer
> > Tecmo: Dead or Alive Extreme Beach VolleyBall
> >
> > Just kidding, just choose the software that fits you best.
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > raf
> >
> >
> >
> > "Frank_S" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:c4pl7q$eji$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to learn 3D animation but don't know which software to

> buy.

> > Does

> > > anyone have any advice on whether 3D Studio Max or Maya is better? I

> would

> > be

> > > mainly using it for visualization but would like to get into 3D game

> > design.

> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > FrankS
> > >

> >
> >

>
>

[Rafael Martín]

We have created our own exporter from softimage to w3d.
No problems no limits in bones deformation and animation any type.
Comeing soon in [url]www.sintesys.net/exporter[/url]

raf


"necromanthus" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> I have to admit that SoftImage XSI is a great piece of work.
> But 3DS MAX 6 has the best W3D exporter ,so ... find the

answer yourself.

> cheers

[lilnyc]

Frank,

Have you considered Discreet's Plasma? For simple 3D in Director it's
fantastic, very easy to use with detailed color illustrated tutorials and it's
only $650.

I followed a Macromedia tutorial where the author uses 3DS Max and I used
Plasma - same results.

[Frank_S]

Thanks everyone for you input.

I've decided to go with 3D Studio Max. It seems to be best suited for my needs.

I've been mostly a MAC user with some experience on PCs ( using Director).
Since 3D Studio Max only runs on a PC, can anyone give me advice on what
features I should be looking for when purchasing a computer for 3D animation?
How much can I expect to spend? And what's a good resource for buying a
computer?

Thanks for you help.

FrankS

[necromanthus]

[q]Originally posted by: Frank_SI've decided to go with 3D Studio
Max. It seems to be best suited for my needs.
FrankS[/q]

The best choice ( you won't be dissapointed )
p.s.
my best wishes for MAYA, SOFTIMAGE and POSER users.

[zippy]

Some things are a must when using 3D modeling applications like Max. First
you're going to need a relatively fast processor and graphics card. Your
processor should be no less than 1.5 GHz and your graphics card should have
at least 64MB RAM (ATI and NVDIA both make great cards). Also, don't
consider anything less than 512M of system RAM. And make sure it has a nice
big monitor.

Steve


"Frank_S" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:c4v62k$dko$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Thanks everyone for you input.
>
> I've decided to go with 3D Studio Max. It seems to be best suited for my

needs.

>
> I've been mostly a MAC user with some experience on PCs ( using

Director).

> Since 3D Studio Max only runs on a PC, can anyone give me advice on what
> features I should be looking for when purchasing a computer for 3D

animation?

> How much can I expect to spend? And what's a good resource for buying a
> computer?
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> FrankS
>

[hondo3000]

don't forget about the easy-to-learn Cinema4D ! It has also a w3D Exporter.

You can learn this programm very fast and come to good results.

Known Problems:

- Z-axis in wrong direction
- Normals in wrong direction
- No aceptable solution to render shadows onto the models :(

Good about it:

-Texture size
-Animation of bones and Positions/rotations
-available for mac/pc

this was just to make the overview complete!

greetings!

[Unregistered]

3D Studio Max or Maya?