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I'm thinking of upgrading the internal HD on my Pismo (G3/500 Powerbook). OWC has a Toshiba 60G/5400 drive for $209, and an IBM Travelstar 60G/7200 for $309. If I get the 7200 rpm drive, will I see a noticeable increase in responsiveness on OSX as opposed to the 5400 rpm drive? Even though I have a lot of memory, my system pages like crazy once all the physical memory is used up. [There are rumors that this is a 10.2.6 problem that perhaps might be fixed someday; others disagree]....

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    Default 7200 RPM faster than 5400?

    I'm thinking of upgrading the internal HD on my Pismo (G3/500
    Powerbook). OWC has a Toshiba 60G/5400 drive for $209, and an IBM
    Travelstar 60G/7200 for $309.

    If I get the 7200 rpm drive, will I see a noticeable increase in
    responsiveness on OSX as opposed to the 5400 rpm drive? Even though I
    have a lot of memory, my system pages like crazy once all the physical
    memory is used up. [There are rumors that this is a 10.2.6 problem that
    perhaps might be fixed someday; others disagree].
    fishfry Guest

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    Where I don't have a Mac story to tell, I noticed considerable increases in
    a work PC's that got upgraded from a 5400 to 7200. As far as your system
    paging like crazy and it being a problem with 10.2.6, I am not seeing that
    problem at all I have 384 MB of ram and I just checked vm_stat and I have
    had exactly 2 pageouts in the last 8 hours. Although I don't really push
    the system that hard, have entourage, safari, and terminal running
    simultaneously. I think that if you had something really chewing through the
    memory like photoshop or video editing that would cause swapping.

    Jason


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    On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:52:59 GMT,
    Jason Pickard (mindspring.com) wrote: 
    > Where I don't have a Mac story to tell, I noticed considerable increases in
    > a work PC's that got upgraded from a 5400 to 7200.[/ref]

    I would be concerned about the additional heat generation with a 7200 rpm
    drive in a powerbook case. I think (but am not sure) that the original
    IBM TravelStar 6 GB HD in my Pismo was a 4200 rpm drive.

    Try the 7200 rpm drive. If it starts flaking out, you can always replace
    it with a cheaper 5400 rpm or 4200 rpm drive.

    Beverly
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    "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to lerne" -- Chaucer
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    In article <mimnet.northwestern.edu>,
    "Bev A. Kupf" <net> wrote:
     
    > > Where I don't have a Mac story to tell, I noticed considerable increases in
    > > a work PC's that got upgraded from a 5400 to 7200.[/ref]
    >
    > I would be concerned about the additional heat generation with a 7200 rpm
    > drive in a powerbook case. I think (but am not sure) that the original
    > IBM TravelStar 6 GB HD in my Pismo was a 4200 rpm drive.[/ref]

    That plus battery-life issues might mean a faster drive isn't such a
    good idea on a laptop.
     

    Heh. Easy to say that when it's someone else who'd be dealing with the
    flaky drive. :-)

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    On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:29:15 -0600,
    Tom Harrington (no.spam.dammit.net) wrote: 
    >
    > Heh. Easy to say that when it's someone else who'd be dealing with the
    > flaky drive. :-)[/ref]

    Very true -- no skin off my nose.

    Bev
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    Bev A. Kupf
    "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to lerne" -- Chaucer
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    On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:29:15 -0600,
    Tom Harrington (no.spam.dammit.net) wrote: 

    Very good point. I was just comparing the specs on 4200 rpm and
    7200 rpm Travelstar drives on OWC. The power consumption on the 7200
    drives is 10% to 100%% more. For instance average active idle power
    consumption for the 7200 rpm drive is 1.3W, and 0.65W for the 4200
    rpm drive. Average seek time on the faster drive is 10 ms, and 12 ms
    on the slower drive.

    Based on the issues that Tom has raised, I'm not sure the faster drive
    is worth it on a PB. I'lld use the money saved on more RAM.

    Bev
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    "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to lerne" -- Chaucer
    Bev Guest

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    In article <mimnet.northwestern.edu>,
    "Bev A. Kupf" <net> wrote:
     
    > > Where I don't have a Mac story to tell, I noticed considerable increases in
    > > a work PC's that got upgraded from a 5400 to 7200.[/ref]
    >
    > I would be concerned about the additional heat generation with a 7200 rpm
    > drive in a powerbook case. I think (but am not sure) that the original
    > IBM TravelStar 6 GB HD in my Pismo was a 4200 rpm drive.
    >
    > Try the 7200 rpm drive. If it starts flaking out, you can always replace
    > it with a cheaper 5400 rpm or 4200 rpm drive.
    >[/ref]

    That's very good advice, thank you. As it happens I use my PowerBook
    mostly at home. And since it does run noticeably hot, I have it up on a
    little stand and with one of those plastic table fans ing air
    underneath it to keep it nice and cool. But the heat is good to keep in
    mind for when I travel.
    fishfry Guest

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