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Hi everybody I was cleaning out my closet, and I've found an old harddiskdrive. it's from an 80286... Is there any way to check the data of that harddisk on a newer computer (I accidently don't have a 286 anymore ;) Thanks in advance Greetings Theo Vermeulen -- Theo Vermeulen [email]nospampatat.org[/email] E-mailaddress is _not_ fake. #EOF...

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    Hi everybody


    I was cleaning out my closet, and I've found an old harddiskdrive. it's from
    an 80286...

    Is there any way to check the data of that harddisk on a newer
    computer (I accidently don't have a 286 anymore ;)


    Thanks in advance


    Greetings


    Theo Vermeulen

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    [email]nospampatat.org[/email]
    E-mailaddress is _not_ fake.
    #EOF
    Theo Vermeulen Guest

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    Theo Vermeulen <nospampatat.org> wrote:
    > Is there any way to check the data of that harddisk on a newer
    > computer (I accidently don't have a 286 anymore ;)
    Yes, just plug into the machine. It's probably just a few hundreds of
    megabytes, it should be recognized.

    Davide
    Davide Bianchi Guest

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    In article <bmuisl$qb26q$1ID-18487.news.uni-berlin.de>, Davide Bianchi wrote:
    > Theo Vermeulen <nospampatat.org> wrote:
    >> Is there any way to check the data of that harddisk on a newer
    >> computer (I accidently don't have a 286 anymore ;)
    >
    > Yes, just plug into the machine. It's probably just a few hundreds of
    > megabytes, it should be recognized.
    If you're lucky. If you're not so lucky you'll have to find a mfm[0]
    controller on a pci card -- I don't think very many of those exist.
    Or find a machine with an ISA slot free and a suitable controller.


    [0] Actually the encoding, the protocol is officially called something else.

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    jpd <read_the_sigdo.not.spam.it> wrote:
    > If you're lucky. If you're not so lucky you'll have to find a mfm[0]
    Ye 'flippin god! If you're unlucky just toss the bugger in the trash!

    Davide
    Davide Bianchi Guest

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    On 19 Oct 2003, Davide Bianchi wrote:
    > Theo Vermeulen <nospampatat.org> wrote:
    > > Is there any way to check the data of that harddisk on a newer
    > > computer (I accidently don't have a 286 anymore ;)
    >
    > Yes, just plug into the machine. It's probably just a few hundreds of
    > megabytes, it should be recognized.
    >
    > Davide
    problem is that it has an other sort of plugs (the ones also used for 5.25"
    floppy-drives). maybe it could help if I'd say it has the same size as a
    cdrom-drive.
    [url]http://www.markus-debus.de/museum/img/pc10-st-251-1.jpg[/url]
    [url]http://www.redhill.net.au/jpg/d-st251.jpg[/url]
    [url]http://support.ap.dell.com/docs/DTA_gifs/ST351.gif[/url]
    (seagate st-251)

    btw, I think it's 20MB *hehe*


    Greetings


    Theo Vermeulen

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    [email]nospampatat.org[/email]
    E-mailaddress is _not_ fake.
    #EOF
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    Theo Vermeulen <nospampatat.org> wrote:
    > problem is that it has an other sort of plugs (the ones also used for 5.25"
    > floppy-drives). maybe it could help if I'd say it has the same size as a
    > cdrom-drive.
    Geee... the trash can is waiting...

    Davide
    Davide Bianchi Guest

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    On 19 Oct 2003, Davide Bianchi wrote:
    > Theo Vermeulen <nospampatat.org> wrote:
    > > problem is that it has an other sort of plugs (the ones also used for 5.25"
    > > floppy-drives). maybe it could help if I'd say it has the same size as a
    > > cdrom-drive.
    >
    > Geee... the trash can is waiting...

    problem is that I'm really curious what's on that disk ... (+ I don't trow
    away computer-stuff... I keep 'em, or burn 'em)

    maybe I'll just have to search for a 80286 *sigh*



    Greetings


    Theo Vermeulen

    --
    Theo Vermeulen
    [email]nospampatat.org[/email]
    E-mailaddress is _not_ fake.
    #EOF
    Theo Vermeulen Guest

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    In article <3f92ee01$0$58712$e4fe514cnews.xs4all.nl>, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
    [snip: bloody old drive]
    >
    > maybe I'll just have to search for a 80286 *sigh*
    You still need the right controller...


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    jpd Guest

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    On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC), jpd <read_the_sigdo.not.spam.it>
    wrote:
    > In article <3f92ee01$0$58712$e4fe514cnews.xs4all.nl>, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
    > [snip: bloody old drive]
    >>
    >> maybe I'll just have to search for a 80286 *sigh*
    >
    > You still need the right controller...
    >
    The ST251-1 is a 40MB MFM style drive. I haven't seen one in 12 years,
    but ISTR that they used two data cables -- one about the size of 34-pin
    floppy cable, and a smaller (~20 pins) cable as well. As long as you
    have an ISA slot, you should be able to find an MFM controller at a
    surplus house.

    Dave
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    Dave Von Pless Guest

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    Dave Von Pless <drdvpTREEfreeshell.org> wrote in message news:<slrnbp8fdo.5ms.drdvpTREEvinland.freeshell.o rg>...
    > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC), jpd <read_the_sigdo.not.spam.it>
    > wrote:
    > > In article <3f92ee01$0$58712$e4fe514cnews.xs4all.nl>, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
    > > [snip: bloody old drive]
    > >>
    > >> maybe I'll just have to search for a 80286 *sigh*
    > >
    > > You still need the right controller...
    > >
    > The ST251-1 is a 40MB MFM style drive. I haven't seen one in 12 years,
    > but ISTR that they used two data cables -- one about the size of 34-pin
    > floppy cable, and a smaller (~20 pins) cable as well. As long as you
    > have an ISA slot, you should be able to find an MFM controller at a
    > surplus house.
    >
    > Dave

    Do a google search for "hard drive st-506", there are several links.
    I was at the local community college and found several of these cards
    in
    a give/throw away box. I showed it to several students, and none of
    then had any idea what kind of card it was. After I told them it was
    a controller card
    they were still clueless. No, I did not keep one for old time sake.
    There was a prep command "low-level format?" for these drives.

    I once found a 10 MB, full height, 5.25inch formfactor hard drive. It
    drew one amp at twelve volts.

    Walt R.
    Walt R Guest

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    In article <47958aeb.0310222210.dd36bfeposting.google.com> , Walt R wrote:
    [snip]
    > There was a prep command "low-level format?" for these drives.
    Pack a few in a not-too-big box, and set them to do repeated low-level
    formats. add corn... At least that's how the story goes.

    Given that (still older) drives _do_ walk, I don't doubt it.

    > I once found a 10 MB, full height, 5.25inch formfactor hard drive. It
    > drew one amp at twelve volts.
    My first hdd was a 20MB half-height 5.25" thing, and it sounded like a
    jet taking off. I think I suffered my first computer-induced hearing loss
    from that thing.


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    jpd Guest

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    On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC), jpd wrote:
    > In article <3f92ee01$0$58712$e4fe514cnews.xs4all.nl>, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
    > [snip: bloody old drive]
    > >
    > > maybe I'll just have to search for a 80286 *sigh*
    >
    > You still need the right controller...

    EUREKA, I've found one :D (should work, but the man wasn't 100% sure)


    now let's start searching for a computer which supports that card ... (why
    did my dad used to throw away old computers :( )



    Greetings


    Theo Vermeulen

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    Theo Vermeulen
    [email]nospampatat.org[/email]
    E-mailaddress is _not_ fake.
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