[ANN] MacSOUP 2.5 (final) available

[Stefan Haller]

MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.

There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
manual again.


Available from:

<http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/>


--
Stefan Haller
Berlin, Germany
[url]http://home.snafu.de/stk/[/url]

[J.P. Kuypers]

In article (Dans l'article) <1fzsjl6.xdbw1h1raewjkN%stk@snafu.de>,
Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote (écrivait)*:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.

The French versions, F-2.5, of MacSOUP are now available at
<ftp://ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/News/MacSOUP/>.

And maybe soon on one of the mirrors :

<ftp://ftp.calvacom.fr/pub/mac-fr/>
<ftp://ftp.oleane.fr/pub/mirrors/version-francaise/>
<ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/>
<ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/Mac/UCL/>
<ftp://ftp.cidif.org/mac/>
<ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/>

--
Jean-Pierre Kuypers

[Per Rønne]

Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.

> There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> manual again.

I haven't even noticed beta three!

> Available from:

> <http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/>

Marvelous!
--
Per Erik Rønne

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.
>
> There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> manual again.

I couldn't thank you enough :-)))


Corentin

[Kathy Morgan]

Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.
>
> There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> manual again.
>
>
> Available from:
>
> <http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/>

Thank you!

--
Kathy

[Peter Ceresole]

In article <1fzwstr.4z7fgqh65p1tN%kmorgan@spamcop.net>,
[email]kmorgan@spamcop.net[/email] (Kathy Morgan) wrote:

>Thank you!

Good Lord, Kathy. Fancy seeing you in uk.comp.sys.mac... Among other
groups, of course.

--
Peter

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.
>
> There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> manual again.
>
>
> Available from:
>
> <http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/>

You've abandoned MacOS 8.x users. Why, if you don't mind me asking? I
paid for MacSOUP and I use 8.6.
MacSOUP 2.5 seems to run ok for me, but if I have a problem will I get
no support at all?

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

[Stefan Haller]

Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@e3.net.nz> wrote:

> You've abandoned MacOS 8.x users.

No, I haven't. All I said is that I can no longer guarantee that
MacSOUP works well on old systems. If there are problems and I can do
something about them with reasonable effort, I probably will; but I
can't promise this.

> Why, if you don't mind me asking?

Because I no longer have a Mac that boots anything other than Mac OS X.
I can test the Classic version of MacSOUP in the Classic Environment
under OS X, that's about all I can do.

Mind you, I did debug and fix a problem with 2.5b3 that caused a crash
on one user's PB190 under 8.1 or so. It took me a lot of time though,
so I may decide not to do this next time.

> I paid for MacSOUP and I use 8.6.

You paid for the 2.4 version of MacSOUP (or even an earlier version, I
don't know). Fine, so go ahead and keep using 2.4.6, that version is
not going to stop working.

Most other software vendors only release versions for OS X these days.
And most other companies would have charged you for an upgrade such as
MacSOUP 2.5. I did neither, and you are still complaining. Funny.


--
Stefan Haller
Berlin, Germany
[url]http://home.snafu.de/stk/[/url]

[Mike Rosenberg]

Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@e3.net.nz> wrote:

> If I thought it would make any difference I'd gladly purchase a new
> license for MacSOUP. But I guess another US$20 isn't going to buy you an
> older Mac.

No, but not much more than that will buy you Mac OS 9.x on eBay, and any
Mac that runs OS 8.6 can be upgraded to at least 9.1.

--
Mike Rosenberg

<http://www.macconsult.com>
<http://bogart-tribute.net>

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

Mike Rosenberg <mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@e3.net.nz> wrote:
>

> > If I thought it would make any difference I'd gladly purchase a new
> > license for MacSOUP. But I guess another US$20 isn't going to buy you an
> > older Mac.

>
> No, but not much more than that will buy you Mac OS 9.x on eBay, and any
> Mac that runs OS 8.6 can be upgraded to at least 9.1.

But cannot run many older programs I'm simply not prepared to live
without. If 9.x had perfect (or even nearly perfect) compatibility with
older Mac software I'd have upgraded asap. Sadly it doesn't.

For sure my next Mac will run OSX, but I won't be getting rid of my
current Mac for as long as it survives. It's about as new a machine as
you can get with the most backward compatibility.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

Mike Rosenberg <mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@e3.net.nz> wrote:
>

> > But cannot run many older programs I'm simply not prepared to live
> > without. If 9.x had perfect (or even nearly perfect) compatibility with
> > older Mac software I'd have upgraded asap. Sadly it doesn't.

>
> Examples, please? There are very few programs that run under 8.6 but
> not 9.x, and many of those have updates available to make them OS
> 9-compatible.

There were much publicised changes to MacOS 9.x that broke many older
applications, control panels and extensions. Just do a google search.

Or try out a few old games from <http://mac.the-underdogs.org/>. Note
that I am not suggesting you pirate older games. I _always_ make every
effort to buy them new or secondhand rather than use such sites. I just
can't think of a better list of old games, many of which break under
9.x, off the top of my head.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

[tim lindner]

Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:

> MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.
>
> There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> manual again.

Thanks for the update. While reading through the manual I came across
this:

Page 19:

> StuffIt Expander can only decode binhexed and uuencoded files though. If you
> receive a Base64 file, you can drop it onto Mpack 1.5 or onto YA-Base64.

Recent versions of Stuffit Expander decode Base64 files for me.

--
The ears are too length.
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tim lindner [email]tlindner@ix.netcom.com[/email]

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

tim lindner <tlindner@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Stefan Haller <stk@snafu.de> wrote:
>

> > MacSOUP 2.5 is no longer beta.
> >
> > There's yet another bunch of bug fixes since 2.5b3, and it includes a
> > manual again.

>
> Thanks for the update. While reading through the manual I came across
> this:
>
> Page 19:
>

> > StuffIt Expander can only decode binhexed and uuencoded files though. If you
> > receive a Base64 file, you can drop it onto Mpack 1.5 or onto YA-Base64.

>
> Recent versions of Stuffit Expander decode Base64 files for me.

Stuffit may _say_ it can decode certain files, but there's a reason I
keep handy utilities like MacRAR, Mpack and STUU1 around. For every ten
files Stuffit handles ok, there's at least one it screws up decoding,
even (to my initial amusement and later disgust) it's own sit format.
For such a mature program this is not what I'd expect.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.