[ANN] rbbr-0.3.1 - Ruby

[Brian Candler]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:10:41PM +0900, Masao Mutoh wrote:

> Hi,
>
> rbbr-0.3.1 is now available.
>
> rbbr-0.3.0 supported ruby-1.8.x only.
> rbbr-0.3.1 also supports ruby-1.6.x.

Yes, but does it support rbbr duck typing? :-)

<duck avoid="flying objects"/>

[Masao Mutoh]

Hi,

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:48:41 +0900
james_b <james_bneurogami.com> wrote:

> Masao Mutoh wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > rbbr-0.3.1 is now available.

>
> Great.
>
> What is it?

Oops, See
[url]http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/78606[/url]

Thanks,

--
.:% Masao Mutoh<mutohhighway.ne.jp>

[Masao Mutoh]

Hi,

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:06:15 +0900
Brian Candler <B.Candlerpobox.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:50:56PM +0900, Masao Mutoh wrote:

> > > > rbbr-0.3.1 is now available.
> > > >
> > > > rbbr-0.3.0 supported ruby-1.8.x only.
> > > > rbbr-0.3.1 also supports ruby-1.6.x.
> > >
> > > Yes, but does it support rbbr duck typing? :-)
> > >
> > > <duck avoid="flying objects"/>

> >
> > I'm sorry but I'm not good at English. What is this mean?

>
> [url]http://images.google.com/images?q=rubber+duck&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search[/url]
>
> Sorry, my feeble attempt at humour after the long "duck typing" thread...

No problem.
I'm sorry but I've not been able to read ruby-talk mails for a week,
because I've concentreted to work for Ruby-GNOME2-0.6.0.

BTW, rubber duck seems cute, and the spelling is similer rbbr as you said.
#I've known the goods but I've not know the name in English.

Can I use it as rbbr's icon ?
Are there any problems(license or that meaning)?

--
.:% Masao Mutoh<mutohhighway.ne.jp>

[Brian Candler]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 11:27:48PM +0900, Masao Mutoh wrote:

> BTW, rubber duck seems cute, and the spelling is similer rbbr as you said.
> #I've known the goods but I've not know the name in English.
>
> Can I use it as rbbr's icon ?
> Are there any problems(license or that meaning)?

Those images were just turned up by google from various sites -
unfortunately you'd have to check with the owner of each one.

I don't actually have a rubber duck, otherwise I would photograph it for you
:-)

Cheers,

Brian.

[Hal E. Fulton]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Masao Mutoh" <mutohhighway.ne.jp>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talkruby-lang.org>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ANN] rbbr-0.3.1

> > > > Yes, but does it support rbbr duck typing? :-)
> > > >
> > > > <duck avoid="flying objects"/>
> > >
> > > I'm sorry but I'm not good at English. What is this mean?

> >
> >

[url]http://images.google.com/images?q=rubber+duck&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Googl[/url]
e+Search

> >
> > Sorry, my feeble attempt at humour after the long "duck typing"

thread...

>
> No problem.
> I'm sorry but I've not been able to read ruby-talk mails for a week,
> because I've concentreted to work for Ruby-GNOME2-0.6.0.
>
> BTW, rubber duck seems cute, and the spelling is similer rbbr as you said.
> #I've known the goods but I've not know the name in English.

There is one other aspect to this joke...
the English word "duck" is also a verb,
meaning to crouch suddenly, as when
avoiding something thrown at you. (In
this case, something thrown at Brian
for making the original "rbbr duck" joke.)

Cheers,
Hal

[Daniel Kelley]

>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Thomas <davepragprog.com> writes:

Dave> Brian Candler wrote:

>> I don't actually have a rubber duck,

Dave> So how do you debug code????

I never thought to use rubber ducks - how does that work? I've always used
rubber chickens (see RFC2321) or eviscerated hard disks.

d.k.

--
Daniel Kelley - San Jose, CA
For email, replace the first dot in the domain with an at.

[Brian Wisti]

Daniel Kelley wrote:

>>>>>>"Dave" == Dave Thomas <davepragprog.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>
> Dave> Brian Candler wrote:

> >> I don't actually have a rubber duck,

>
> Dave> So how do you debug code????
>
>I never thought to use rubber ducks - how does that work? I've always used
>rubber chickens (see RFC2321) or eviscerated hard disks.
>
>d.k.
>
>
>

I prefer squeaky dinosaurs over rubber ducks as a debugging tool.
Finger puppets can also be used in an emergency if your ducky, dinosaur,
or chicken are not near.

- Brian W
[url]http://coolnamehere.com/[/url]

[Scott Thompson]

>>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Thomas <davepragprog.com> writes:

>
> Dave> Brian Candler wrote:

>>> I don't actually have a rubber duck,

>
> Dave> So how do you debug code????
>
> I never thought to use rubber ducks - how does that work? I've always
> used
> rubber chickens (see RFC2321) or eviscerated hard disks.

Waving a rubber duck at the problem works as well as waving a rubber
chicken at it, but it's a bit more exotic (at least here in the US).
You can also try waving a rubber frog but that only tends to work in
France (particularly if you use the legs of the rubber frog alone).

I've heard that some folks over in Sweetwater, TX have had really good
results with a rubber rattlesnake as well, though other people say the
effectiveness of the rattlesnake is in a class by itself and that it
"works nothing like chicken".
<[url]http://www.durangotexas.com/eyesontexas/festivals/rattlesnake/[/url]
rattlesnake.htm>

YMMV,

Scott Thompson

[james_b]

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[Michael Garriss]

Hi,
Just 2 questions:

1) How can I mixin a class method (not an instance method)?

2) How can I force a certain method to be called when the an object of a
class that includes that module is initialized? Sort of like a mixin
initialize....

TIA
Michael Garriss

[Michael Garriss]

Michael Garriss wrote:

> Hi,
> Just 2 questions:
>
> 1) How can I mixin a class method (not an instance method)?
>
> 2) How can I force a certain method to be called when the an object of
> a class that includes that module is initialized? Sort of like a
> mixin initialize....
>
> TIA
> Michael Garriss
>
>
>

oops, didn't mean for it to end up in that thread

[Joel VanderWerf]

Michael Garriss wrote:

> Hi,
> Just 2 questions:
>
> 1) How can I mixin a class method (not an instance method)?

Since #include doesn't propagate class/module methods, you have to use
#extend:

module M
def foo; end # NOT: def M.foo
end

class C
extend M
end

C.foo

[Gennady]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Garriss" <mgarrissearthlink.net>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talkruby-lang.org>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: newbie mixin questions

> Hi,
> Just 2 questions:
>
> 1) How can I mixin a class method (not an instance method)?

class A
class << self
include SomeModule
end
end

>
> 2) How can I force a certain method to be called when the an object of a
> class that includes that module is initialized? Sort of like a mixin
> initialize....

module SomeModule
def new(*args)
object = super *args
# call whatever you want here
object
end
end

>
> TIA
> Michael Garriss
>
>
>

[Gennady]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Garriss" <mgarrissearthlink.net>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talkruby-lang.org>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: newbie mixin questions

> Gennady wrote:
>

> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Garriss" <mgarrissearthlink.net>
> >To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talkruby-lang.org>
> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:16 PM
> >Subject: newbie mixin questions
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >>Hi,
> >> Just 2 questions:
> >>
> >>1) How can I mixin a class method (not an instance method)?
> >>
> >>

> >
> >class A
> > class << self
> > include SomeModule
> > end
> >end
> >
> >

> Very cool. Will this require me to have two seperate modules though?
> One for including class methods and the other of including the instance
> methods.

I think so. Technically, you can include the same module both as calss and
instance, however usually included methods expect some known environment,
either class or instance. You can do some smart checking too, of cource.

>

> >
> >

> >>2) How can I force a certain method to be called when the an object of a
> >>class that includes that module is initialized? Sort of like a mixin
> >>initialize....
> >>
> >>

> >
> >module SomeModule
> > def new(*args)
> > object = super *args
> > # call whatever you want here
> > object
> > end
> >end
> >

>
> Again, very cool. If I include two modules into the same class, both
> with a #new, will one be over written?

I was not sure untill I tried it, and I was pleasantly surprised that they
are called in the order of inclusion. [Ruby is] Very cool ;-)

Gennady.