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    NYIMI Jose (BMB) <Jose.NYIMI@proximus.net> wrote:
    :
    : I'm wondering why the CGI::Application module is not
    : so popular in Perl's world like it is the case for
    : Struts in Java's world.
    : To me, there are both very similar due to the fact
    : that they are serving the same cause : "framework to
    : build reusable web applications".
    :
    : Is that related to TMTOWTDI slogan of Perl ? :)

    Perhaps. But the mailing list for C::A is popular.
    I have about a thousand messages archived since last
    year. Maybe it is just that casual programmers are
    less likely to program in Java. And IMO C::A appeals to
    serious programmers. I used perl for more than a year
    as a utility. I didn't do any multiple screen apps until
    just recently. C::A is also OO and that is a turn off
    for many.


    HTH,

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    On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:33:19 -0500, "Charles K. Clarkson" <cclarkson@htcomp.net> wrote:
    > NYIMI Jose (BMB) <Jose.NYIMI@proximus.net> wrote:
    > :
    > : I'm wondering why the CGI::Application module is not
    > : so popular in Perl's world like it is the case for
    > : Struts in Java's world.
    > : To me, there are both very similar due to the fact
    > : that they are serving the same cause : "framework to
    > : build reusable web applications".
    > :
    > : Is that related to TMTOWTDI slogan of Perl ? :)
    >
    > Perhaps. But the mailing list for C::A is popular.
    > I have about a thousand messages archived since last
    > year. Maybe it is just that casual programmers are
    > less likely to program in Java. And IMO C::A appeals to
    > serious programmers. I used perl for more than a year
    > as a utility. I didn't do any multiple screen apps until
    > just recently. C::A is also OO and that is a turn off
    > for many.
    >
    The ironic part to me is that I think C::A applies to the middle of the road. It is overly complex to do something simple (or at least has enough of a learning curve to avoid it for simple things), but a "serious" programmer might feel restricted by the manner in which it handles things, in other words, they are more likely to grow their own object/framework, as I recently have re-written a framework I had previously developed, moved from functional Perl 4 to OOP, but didn't start with C::A as a basis, though mine works in a similar manner. On top of that, right now I don't know that there is a large middle market, where one needs a decent starting framework to build on, but isn't willing to grow their own, or is at the beginner stage where the goals don't warrant the learning curve for a couple of dynamic pages or a form that just sends a message.

    I think this market will grow, and from looking at the docs it appears C::A has matured substantially since I last visited it, so I am not against its' usage or promoting it, just throwing my two cents in the pot as to why there hasn't been more uptake...

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