Ausgehende Mails kopieren

[andycrx]

Hi

Ich habe einen Debian Mailserver laufen. Auf dem läuft Amavis mit
Clam-AV Virenscanner und Spamassassin.
Jetzt habe ich das Problem das ich bei einem Freund der den Server
verwendet
in der Firma ein Maulwurf sitzt der ständig Mails an die Konkurenz
schickt.
Wie könnte ich alle ausgehenden Mails als Kopie auf eine Email adresse
umleiten damit mein Freund den Maulwurf rausfindet ???
Ich hoffe mir kann jemand helfen

Mfg Andy

[Igmar Palsenberg]

andycrx wrote:

<snip>

> Mfg Andy

Try again in English.


Igmar

[Dave Hinz]

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:23:26 +0200, Igmar Palsenberg <igmar@non-existant.local> wrote:

> andycrx wrote:
>
><snip>
>

>> Mfg Andy

>
> Try again in English.

I didn't know this was an English-only group?

[Michael Heiming]

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In comp.unix.admin Dave Hinz <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> suggested:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:23:26 +0200, Igmar Palsenberg <igmar@non-existant.local> wrote:

>> andycrx wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>

>>> Mfg Andy

>>
>> Try again in English.

> I didn't know this was an English-only group?

Now what would you think from the description of cua in your
newsreader:

Administering a Unix-based system.

The name is comp.unix.admin not de.comp.unix.admin and the
description isn't:

Administration von Unix basierten Systemen.

Makes it pretty obvious. IMHO it's quite rude writing in a
different language then the one that could easily be gathered
from name, description and/or simply reading a few posts.

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[Dave Hinz]

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:59:26 -0000, Michael Heiming <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote:

>
> Now what would you think from the description of cua in your
> newsreader:
>
> Administering a Unix-based system.

Um, OK, maybe I'm missing seeing "Non-english posts not welcome"?

> The name is comp.unix.admin not de.comp.unix.admin and the
> description isn't:
>
> Administration von Unix basierten Systemen.

OK,?

> Makes it pretty obvious. IMHO it's quite rude writing in a
> different language then the one that could easily be gathered
> from name, description and/or simply reading a few posts.

I don't think it's particularly rude, myself. Ineffective, perhaps,
but hardly rude. Of course he'd have a better chance of getting
useful responses if more of the audience could read it, but that's
hardly our problem.

On some of the genealogy groups I frequent, people have been asked to
write in their native language rather than translating badly (or worse,
by machine) and making the message completely unreadable. I'm not sure
that this is any different here, is it?

That having been said,I don't recall seeing his original question in
the first place, so I can't address how readable it was.

Dave Hinz

[Igmar Palsenberg]

andycrx wrote:

> Hi
>
> Ich habe einen Debian Mailserver laufen. Auf dem läuft Amavis mit
> Clam-AV Virenscanner und Spamassassin.
> Jetzt habe ich das Problem das ich bei einem Freund der den Server
> verwendet
> in der Firma ein Maulwurf sitzt der ständig Mails an die Konkurenz
> schickt.
> Wie könnte ich alle ausgehenden Mails als Kopie auf eine Email adresse
> umleiten damit mein Freund den Maulwurf rausfindet ???
> Ich hoffe mir kann jemand helfen

For non-german speakers :

A machine with Spamassassin and ClamAV, and the OP wants to copy all
outgoing mails.

Answer :

Iy you need the MTA to copy it, the way to do it depends on the MTA used
.. In Sendmail a milter that does it is easely written. If you're a Perl
code, you could hack up Amavis. If you're happen to run a Dual-MTA
setup, it might get easier.

> Mfg Andy

Regards,


Igmar

[Igmar Palsenberg]

Dave Hinz wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:59:26 -0000, Michael Heiming <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote:

> I don't think it's particularly rude, myself. Ineffective, perhaps,
> but hardly rude. Of course he'd have a better chance of getting
> useful responses if more of the audience could read it, but that's
> hardly our problem.

It's common practice to consider the language to post in English unless
stated otherwise.

That I'm capable of reading (and writing) doesn't mean I prefer that,
since that locks people out of the conversation that don't read / write
German. I usually make a shortened version of the question in English.

> On some of the genealogy groups I frequent, people have been asked to
> write in their native language rather than translating badly (or worse,
> by machine) and making the message completely unreadable. I'm not sure
> that this is any different here, is it?

One could argue about that.

> That having been said,I don't recall seeing his original question in
> the first place, so I can't address how readable it was.

It's in German by a native German speaker, so quite readable if you can
read German :)

> Dave Hinz

Igmar

[Michael Tosch]

In article <4107f7e4$0$36861$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Igmar Palsenberg <igmar@non-existant.local> writes:

> andycrx wrote:

> > Hi
> >
> > Ich habe einen Debian Mailserver laufen. Auf dem läuft Amavis mit
> > Clam-AV Virenscanner und Spamassassin.
> > Jetzt habe ich das Problem das ich bei einem Freund der den Server
> > verwendet
> > in der Firma ein Maulwurf sitzt der ständig Mails an die Konkurenz
> > schickt.
> > Wie könnte ich alle ausgehenden Mails als Kopie auf eine Email adresse
> > umleiten damit mein Freund den Maulwurf rausfindet ???
> > Ich hoffe mir kann jemand helfen

>
> For non-german speakers :
>
> A machine with Spamassassin and ClamAV, and the OP wants to copy all
> outgoing mails.

.... to find a spy who frequently mails to competitors.

Answer:

scan the logfiles. If you know the competitor's E-mail address, it
should be easy to guess the spy's sender address.
Then, with the suspicious address, continue with the next answer:

>
> Answer :
>
> Iy you need the MTA to copy it, the way to do it depends on the MTA used
> .. In Sendmail a milter that does it is easely written. If you're a Perl
> code, you could hack up Amavis. If you're happen to run a Dual-MTA
> setup, it might get easier.
>

> > Mfg Andy

>
>

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[Michael Heiming]

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In comp.unix.admin Michael Tosch <eedmit@no.eed.spam.ericsson.pls.se> suggested:

> In article <4107f7e4$0$36861$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Igmar Palsenberg <igmar@non-existant.local> writes:

>> andycrx wrote:

[..]

>> A machine with Spamassassin and ClamAV, and the OP wants to copy all
>> outgoing mails.

> ... to find a spy who frequently mails to competitors.

> Answer:

> scan the logfiles. If you know the competitor's E-mail address, it
> should be easy to guess the spy's sender address.
> Then, with the suspicious address, continue with the next answer:

In addition, depending on the country, there might be some legal
issues involved with making copies of all outgoing mails, I'd
double-check before. Or your proofs might not be worth anything,
if you get into court.


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