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Very minor difference in browser versions are having a significant effect on whether Mac users can access some of our web pages. Does anyone know where I can find friendly conversions for the following? Can access our pages: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC) Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.23; Mac_PowerPC) Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 Can't access our pages: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.22; Mac_PowerPC) Mozilla/4.08C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Mozilla/4.77 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Thank you Yimin...

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    Default Browser, Version and OS from HTTP User Agents?

    Very minor difference in browser versions are having a significant
    effect on whether Mac users can access some of our web pages. Does
    anyone know where I can find friendly conversions for the following?

    Can access our pages:

    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC)
    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.23; Mac_PowerPC)
    Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.2)
    Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01

    Can't access our pages:

    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.22; Mac_PowerPC)
    Mozilla/4.08C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC)
    Mozilla/4.77 (Macintosh; U; PPC)

    Thank you

    Yimin
    Yimin Rong Guest

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    Default Re: Browser, Version and OS from HTTP User Agents?

    Hm ... let me see if I remember my useragents ... *cracks knuckles*

    [email]yiminrongyahoo.ca[/email] (Yimin Rong) wrote in
    news:afc55314.0306300607.7310fbfposting.google.co m:
    > Very minor difference in browser versions are having a significant
    > effect on whether Mac users can access some of our web pages. Does
    > anyone know where I can find friendly conversions for the following?
    >
    > Can access our pages:
    >
    > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC)
    IE 5.0 on Mac OS (not OS X))
    > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.23; Mac_PowerPC)
    IE 5.23 on Mac OS (not OS X))
    > Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.2)
    Not so sure about this one. Safari? I don't know.
    > Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01
    Netscape 7.01.
    > Can't access our pages:
    >
    > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.22; Mac_PowerPC)
    Netscape 4.0 on MacOS (not OS X)
    > Mozilla/4.08C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC)
    Netscape 4.08c on MacOS (not OS X)
    > Mozilla/4.77 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
    Netscape 4.77 on MacOS (not OS X)


    So it looks like the trend is that people who are using Netscape 4.x
    can't access your site. Serves them right. It was a good browser in its
    day but frankly its CSS support is spectacularly bad.

    Is any Mozilla or Netscape 7.x available for OS 9? If you can only get
    netscape 4.x on OS 9 then it appears that mac users who are not on OS X
    can't access those parts of your site.
    Jucius Maximus Guest

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    Jucius Maximus wrote:
    > Hm ... let me see if I remember my useragents ... *cracks knuckles*
    >
    > [email]yiminrongyahoo.ca[/email] (Yimin Rong) wrote in
    > news:afc55314.0306300607.7310fbfposting.google.co m:
    >
    >>Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.2)
    >
    > Not so sure about this one. Safari? I don't know.
    Nope, not Safari's. Looks like something based on Gecko 1.0.2. Exactly
    what is tough to tell from this. Was Mozilla 1.0.2 ever ported to Mac OS X?
    > So it looks like the trend is that people who are using Netscape 4.x
    > can't access your site. Serves them right. It was a good browser in its
    > day but frankly its CSS support is spectacularly bad.
    Amen.

    Steven Fisher Guest

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    Steven Fisher <sdfisherspamcop.net> wrote in
    news:aj1Ma.326191$3C2.8847266news3.calgary.shaw.c a:
    >>>Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.2)
    >>
    >> Not so sure about this one. Safari? I don't know.
    >
    > Nope, not Safari's. Looks like something based on Gecko 1.0.2. Exactly
    > what is tough to tell from this. Was Mozilla 1.0.2 ever ported to Mac
    > OS X?
    Mozilla 1.0.2 was definitely available on Mac OS 9 and X:

    [url]http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.0.2/[/url]

    Maybe that's what this useragent is.
    Jucius Maximus Guest

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    In article <Xns93AA9340BA6A8juicyantispamgraffit199.212.134. 7>,
    Jucius Maximus <juicy.antispam.graffiti.net> wrote:
    >So it looks like the trend is that people who are using Netscape 4.x
    >can't access your site. Serves them right. It was a good browser in its
    >day but frankly its CSS support is spectacularly bad.
    If the HTML markup is valid and proper CSS is used, there is no reason for
    any browser to be denied access to a site. They might not look pretty, but
    the pages should basically work.
    >Is any Mozilla or Netscape 7.x available for OS 9?
    Yes, up to Netcape 7.0.2 and Mozilla 1.3.1. Later versions are for Mac OS X
    only.

    Darrel


    Darrel E. Knutson Guest

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    In article <aj1Ma.326191$3C2.8847266news3.calgary.shaw.ca> ,
    Steven Fisher <sdfisherspamcop.net> wrote:
    >Nope, not Safari's. Looks like something based on Gecko 1.0.2. Exactly
    >what is tough to tell from this. Was Mozilla 1.0.2 ever ported to Mac OS X?
    Safari has to fake Netscape and refers to being "Gecko compatible",
    although it is not based on any Gecko code.

    Versions of Mozilla up to 1.3.1 were released for Mac OS 9.

    Darrel


    Darrel E. Knutson Guest

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    In article <BB284BDB966820223B3.0.iana-cblk-reserved1>,
    [email]darrelknutson.com[/email] (Darrel E. Knutson) wrote:
    > In article <Xns93AA9340BA6A8juicyantispamgraffit199.212.134. 7>,
    > Jucius Maximus <juicy.antispam.graffiti.net> wrote:
    >
    > >So it looks like the trend is that people who are using Netscape 4.x
    > >can't access your site. Serves them right. It was a good browser in its
    > >day but frankly its CSS support is spectacularly bad.
    >
    > If the HTML markup is valid and proper CSS is used, there is no reason for
    > any browser to be denied access to a site. They might not look pretty, but
    > the pages should basically work.
    >
    > >Is any Mozilla or Netscape 7.x available for OS 9?
    >
    > Yes, up to Netcape 7.0.2 and Mozilla 1.3.1. Later versions are for Mac OS X
    > only.
    The Mozilla site indicates that Mozilla 1.3.1 is for OS X only. Are you
    saying that the 1.3.1 version will actually run under OS 9? Or is there a
    version of Mozilla 1.3.1 available elsewhere (URL, please?) that *will*
    run under OS 9?

    David

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    Darrel E. Knutson wrote:
    > Safari has to fake Netscape and refers to being "Gecko compatible",
    > although it is not based on any Gecko code.
    I know that. But the identifier we're discussing is not Safari's.

    Steven Fisher Guest

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    Hi. Like one of many, I am using Netscape 4 on an older Mac. I
    just want to say that Netscape 4.8 is a very good browser and I
    would like to see more websites supporting 4.8.

    I'd like to add that I keep my own web sites as simple as
    possible, while I make sure that they look fine, and they are
    compatible with most, if not all, browser. Just don't mess
    around with Flash, unnecessary JavaScript links, style sheets,
    et cetera, and make surfing the web a real pleasure for
    everybody.

    Mark
    > So it looks like the trend is that people who are using Netscape 4.x
    > can't access your site. Serves them right. It was a good browser in its
    > day but frankly its CSS support is spectacularly bad.
    >
    > Is any Mozilla or Netscape 7.x available for OS 9? If you can only get
    > netscape 4.x on OS 9 then it appears that mac users who are not on OS X
    > can't access those parts of your site.
    Mark Guest

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    In article <3F03000D.6AF7C738ihug.org>, Mark <europeihug.org> wrote:
    > Hi. Like one of many, I am using Netscape 4 on an older Mac. I
    > just want to say that Netscape 4.8 is a very good browser
    No, it is not -- not using any reasonable definition of "good."

    It may be the best browser you can use given that you have an older
    Mac, but more recent browsers have raised the bar significantly.

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    Jerry Kindall, Seattle, WA <http://www.jerrykindall.com/>

    When replying by e-mail, use plain text ONLY to make sure I read it.
    Due to spam and viruses, I filter all mail with HTML or attachments.
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