Can anyone help? :Sparc 5 Solaris 1.1/SunOS 4.1.3

[Jack H]

I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the
miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation but
on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:

machine type 0x80 in NVRAM

Panic: No Known machine types configured in!

Data Access Exception


- Jack Holmgren

[Rich Teer]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jack H wrote:

> I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the

Why?! SunOS was EOLed years ago, and isn't even Y2K safe.
Grab a copy of Solaris 9 and play away!

> miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation but
> on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:
>
> machine type 0x80 in NVRAM
>
> Panic: No Known machine types configured in!

The SS10 predates the SS5, so it's likely that the version of
SunOS you have doesn't even support that hardware. Another
good reason to use something slightly less ancient. :-)

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Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
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[Jack H]

I have my reasons!

And I do have a copy of Solaris 9!

"Rich Teer" <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.44.0307242209390.449-100000@zaphod.rite-group.com...

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jack H wrote:
>

> > I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the

>
> Why?! SunOS was EOLed years ago, and isn't even Y2K safe.
> Grab a copy of Solaris 9 and play away!
>

> > miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation

but

> > on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:
> >
> > machine type 0x80 in NVRAM
> >
> > Panic: No Known machine types configured in!

>
> The SS10 predates the SS5, so it's likely that the version of
> SunOS you have doesn't even support that hardware. Another
> good reason to use something slightly less ancient. :-)
>
> --
> Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA
>
> President,
> Rite Online Inc.
>
> Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
> URL: [url]http://www.rite-online.net[/url]
>

[Nobody]

Hi did you use the same boot disk??? for Sparc 10 and Sparc 5?
Cause the S10 is a machine type 72 and the s5 is a 80..
Maybe.... it helps..

But why not a Solaris 2.x version with a complete kernel???


"Jack H" <holmgren@polarnet.ca> wrote in message
news:Bj1Ua.4339$ys2.383563@news20.bellglobal.com.. .

> I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the
> miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation but
> on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:
>
> machine type 0x80 in NVRAM
>
> Panic: No Known machine types configured in!
>
> Data Access Exception
>
>
> - Jack Holmgren
>
>
>

[Casper H.S. Dik]

"Jack H" <holmgren@polarnet.ca> writes:

>I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the
>miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation but
>on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:

>machine type 0x80 in NVRAM

SunOS 4.1.3 is not supported on the SS5; you need SunOS 4.1.4.

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

[Goran Larsson]

In article <Pine.GSO.4.44.0307242209390.449-100000@zaphod.rite-group.com>,
Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jack H wrote:

> > I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the

> Why?! SunOS was EOLed years ago, and isn't even Y2K safe.

The latest SunOS release is 5.9, is very current, has not been EOLed,
and is certainly Y2K safe.

Even the older SunOS 4.1.3c and SunOS 4.1.4 have Y2K patches, but they
also run fine without the Y2K patches.

--
Göran Larsson [url]http://www.mitt-eget.com/[/url]

[Jack H]

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for... a definitive answer...
not the answer I wanted but definitive!

As you can probably quess I am new to this platform, I was wondering if you
could tell me where a person would look for information like this. I don't
mind asking for the occational question but I'd rather try and find the
answsers in some form of reference. For instantance, you new that version
4.1.4 was needed for the sparc5, probably from experience, but how or where
did you find that info? I have looked on the internet but I have not had a
lot of luck finding what I need.

Thanks for any info you can give me. - Jack Holmgren

"Casper H.S. Dik" <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM> wrote in message
news:3f212590$0$49103$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

> "Jack H" <holmgren@polarnet.ca> writes:
>

> >I am trying to install Solaris 1.1/ SunOS 4.1.3 from a CDrom using the
> >miniroot. i have successfully installed this on a Sparc 10 workstation

but

> >on the sparc 5 gives me the following error:

>

> >machine type 0x80 in NVRAM

>
> SunOS 4.1.3 is not supported on the SS5; you need SunOS 4.1.4.
>
> Casper
> --
> Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.

[Rich Teer]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Jack H wrote:

Please don't top post.

> Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for... a definitive answer...
> not the answer I wanted but definitive!

I gave you the same info in my answer, if you'd looked past
the first paragraph...

> As you can probably quess I am new to this platform, I was wondering if you
> could tell me where a person would look for information like this. I don't
> mind asking for the occational question but I'd rather try and find the

Casper's Solaris FAQ qould be a good read; see ww.sunhelp.org.

> answsers in some form of reference. For instantance, you new that version
> 4.1.4 was needed for the sparc5, probably from experience, but how or where
> did you find that info? I have looked on the internet but I have not had a

Casper works for Sun; he should know this sort of thing! :-)

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[Jack H]

Hi Casper,

Thank you again for the valuable information, I will now go a read
[url]http://sunsolve.sun.com[/url] I am sure it will answer most if not all the
questions that I would other wise bother you with. There is a message left
here by Rich Teer and it sounds to me like he thinks I somehow slighted you,
When I said, "Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for... a
definitive answer...
not the answer I wanted but definitive!" This was just my way of saying,
"Thank you, I wish I had the right Ver. of the OS (4.1.4) so I could get my
Sparc 5 going!" If this is not how it sounded then, I apologize profusely!!
(There truly is a reason for trying to get this SS5 working!)

Do you know what Rich Teer means by, " Don't top post"? I don't use the news
server much (does it show??) and if you can direct me to a place to read
able proper etiquette I will not bother this newsgroup until I have honed my
etiquette.


"Casper H.S. Dik" <Casper.Dik@Sun.COM> wrote in message
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> "Jack H" <holmgren@polarnet.ca> writes:
>

> >As you can probably quess I am new to this platform, I was wondering if

you

> >could tell me where a person would look for information like this. I

don't

> >mind asking for the occational question but I'd rather try and find the
> >answsers in some form of reference. For instantance, you new that version
> >4.1.4 was needed for the sparc5, probably from experience, but how or

where

> >did you find that info? I have looked on the internet but I have not had

a

> >lot of luck finding what I need.

>
> It's actually in the Solaris FAQ; I was not sure whether you needed
> 4.1.3_U1/B or 4.1.4; apparently it the former is the mimimum revision:
>
> The Classic, LX, SS4, SS5 and SS20 are supported in the most recent
> Solaris 1.x release, SunOS 4.1.4 (Solaris 1.1.2). The Classic and
> LX are supported since 4.1.3C (release for LX & Classic only), the
> SS20/SS5 since release 4.1.3_U1 rev B (Solaris 1.1.1B). The SS4
> and SS20 with HyperSPARC since 4.1.4. Note that none of these OS
> versions support SuperSPARC MP or any of the new graphics hardware
> (ZX, TZX, SX, S24). The TCX adapter is only supported as a
> cgthree, and SunOS 4.x doesn't use all its acceleration features.
>
> So my memory was a bit off.
>
> It appears that this information is still available online if you
> know where to search.
>
> If you go to:
>
> [url]http://sunsolve.sun.com[/url]
>
> then select
>
> System handbook (left column)
>
> and select the "SS5" (Under EOL systems)
>
> and then select "system board", you'll find the following footnote:
>
> The minimum OS is Solaris 1.1.1 Version B or Solaris 2.3 Edition II.
>
> Casper
> --
> Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.

[rmk@rmkhome.com]

Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com> wrote:

> Why?! SunOS was EOLed years ago, and isn't even Y2K safe.

Yes, there are Y2K patches.

> Grab a copy of Solaris 9 and play away!

Unless he has a SunOS 4 app that he needs to run.

> The SS10 predates the SS5, so it's likely that the version of
> SunOS you have doesn't even support that hardware. Another
> good reason to use something slightly less ancient. :-)

Probably needs 4.1.3_U1B or later.
--
[email]rmk@rmkhome.com[/email] [url]http://www.rmkhome.com/~rmk[/url]

[Rich Teer]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Jack H wrote:

I'm not Casper (he's probably asleep by now!), but I'll
chime in.

> here by Rich Teer and it sounds to me like he thinks I somehow slighted you,
> When I said, "Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for... a
> definitive answer...

No, I didn't think you slighted Casper - not at all. I was
merely pointing out that the info Casper gave you was also
contained in my original answer to your first post. (The
bit about SS5s not being supported.)

> Do you know what Rich Teer means by, " Don't top post"? I don't use the news

Top posting is what broken clients like Outhouse do by
default, i.e., they put your response to a message on
top of the stuff you're replying to, rather than underneath
it. That makes it hard for people to follow the thread.

What I'm doing - called inline posting - is much prefered.
You can clearly see the context of what I'm saying. Here's
an example:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What's the most annoying thing on Usenet and in email?

Dunno about you, but in my experience, answers usually come
AFTER questions, not before. :-)

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Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA

President,
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Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
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[Volker Borchert]

Casper H.S. Dik wrote:

|> It's actually in the Solaris FAQ; I was not sure whether you needed
|> 4.1.3_U1/B or 4.1.4; apparently it the former is the mimimum revision:
|>
|> The Classic, LX, SS4, SS5 and SS20 are supported in the most recent
|> Solaris 1.x release, SunOS 4.1.4 (Solaris 1.1.2). The Classic and
|> LX are supported since 4.1.3C (release for LX & Classic only), the
|> SS20/SS5 since release 4.1.3_U1 rev B (Solaris 1.1.1B). The SS4
|> and SS20 with HyperSPARC since 4.1.4. Note that none of these OS
|> versions support SuperSPARC MP or any of the new graphics hardware
|> (ZX, TZX, SX, S24). The TCX adapter is only supported as a
|> cgthree, and SunOS 4.x doesn't use all its acceleration features.

For interesting values of "support"?

The SS10 with two SM81 I'm typing this on seems to work just fine
with 4.1.4 (yes, single kernel mutex etc. etc., but it works).

--

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"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert <v_borchert@despammed.com>

[Casper H.S. Dik]

[email]v_borchert@despammed.com[/email] (Volker Borchert) writes:

>The SS10 with two SM81 I'm typing this on seems to work just fine
>with 4.1.4 (yes, single kernel mutex etc. etc., but it works).

There are things known to be broken in MP SuperSPARC support in
SunOS 4.x kernels. You're just not likely to hit them.

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.