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    Default canon 10d and Tamron AF28-300mm Ultra Zoom F/3.5-6.3 XR Aspherical [IF] MACRO

    do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    thanks in advance
    regards


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    "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
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    > do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    > thanks in advance
    > regards
    Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save one...the
    Canon 35-350 L).

    You will be severely crippling your 10D's abilities with that lens.
    It will be soft, very distorted at moth ends of the zoom, and slow (small
    aperture).

    I think you should break that zoom range into at least two
    lenses...preferably three--with one being wider to help deal with the 10D's
    1.6 multiplication factor. You don't have to spend a ton of money to do FAR
    better here.



    Mark M Guest

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    thank you for answer,
    i was also thinking about 28-85mm & 75-300mm lenses - maybe it can be better
    choice...
    for first i wanted to buy something very universal, but now reading many
    many tests and have to think more...
    and which lenses you can recommend?
    what about this one:
    [url]http://www.tamron.com/di.htm[/url]
    regards,
    Tomash


    "Mark M" <mjmorgan2cox.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
    > news:betbm3$o65$1news.onet.pl...
    > > do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > > or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    > > thanks in advance
    > > regards
    >
    > Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save
    one...the
    > Canon 35-350 L).
    >
    > You will be severely crippling your 10D's abilities with that lens.
    > It will be soft, very distorted at moth ends of the zoom, and slow (small
    > aperture).
    >
    > I think you should break that zoom range into at least two
    > lenses...preferably three--with one being wider to help deal with the
    10D's
    > 1.6 multiplication factor. You don't have to spend a ton of money to do
    FAR
    > better here.
    >
    >
    >

    Tomash Bednarz Guest

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    "Mark M" <mjmorgan2cox.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
    > news:betbm3$o65$1news.onet.pl...
    > > do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > > or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    > > thanks in advance
    > > regards
    >
    > Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save
    one...the
    > Canon 35-350 L).
    >
    > You will be severely crippling your 10D's abilities with that lens.
    > It will be soft, very distorted at moth ends of the zoom, and slow (small
    > aperture).
    >
    > I think you should break that zoom range into at least two
    > lenses...preferably three--with one being wider to help deal with the
    10D's
    > 1.6 multiplication factor. You don't have to spend a ton of money to do
    FAR
    > better here.
    >
    >
    >
    I've also read a lot of good user reports for the Sigma 50-500. You
    wouldn't think a 10x zoom would be any good, but according to users it's not
    bad. Check out the Canon lens forum at dpreview.com.

    Mark


    Mark B. Guest

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    Default Re: canon 10d and Tamron AF28-300mm Ultra Zoom F/3.5-6.3 XR Aspherical [IF] MACRO

    that's exactly the set of lenses that Ibought with my 10D and love them.
    (I did get the IS version of the 75-300 and it rocks)

    I wish I could get some of the L lenses with constant aperature, but alas
    this year the body was the big ticket. maybe next year.


    "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
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    > thank you for answer,
    > i was also thinking about 28-85mm & 75-300mm lenses - maybe it can be
    better
    > choice...
    > for first i wanted to buy something very universal, but now reading many
    > many tests and have to think more...
    > and which lenses you can recommend?
    > what about this one:
    > [url]http://www.tamron.com/di.htm[/url]
    > regards,

    Bill Jackson Guest

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    "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
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    > do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    > thanks in advance
    > regards
    Do u think, it's good option to buy rubber boots to Tuxedo ?
    Buy Canon lenses not El Chipo if You want to get optimal effects.


    Andy Guest

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    "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
    news:betggn$19s$1news.onet.pl...
    > thank you for answer,
    > i was also thinking about 28-85mm & 75-300mm lenses - maybe it can be
    better
    > choice...
    > for first i wanted to buy something very universal, but now reading many
    > many tests and have to think more...
    > and which lenses you can recommend?
    It would most helpful to know how much you are willing to spend.

    This will help with realistic and worthy recommendations from people here.

    Also, please comment on what your main subject interests are (landscape,
    portraits, wildlife, etc.).

    -Mark


    Mark M Guest

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    >>>do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    >>Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save
    Huh? I don't think that's true, IMO.

    Keep in mind that the 10D only does a mere 6 megapixels.

    3072 x 2048 pixels or so.

    Keep in mind that at the typical 50 lines / mm of resolution a good
    P&S camera on 24x36mm frame gets you 2400x3600, which is more than the
    10D gets you.

    Bump up to an Olympus Stylus Epic P&S at just under 90 lines / mm of
    resolution gets you around 4320x6480, which is far more than the 10D
    gets you.

    ----

    Now, just think, on the 10D, with such limited resolution, does it
    really matter if the 28-300mm Tamron isn't the highest resolving lens on
    the planet?

    No!

    Even if it was a top quality Leica lens, there's no way on the planet
    the 10D sensor could even utilize the incoming quality. Heck, even with
    an Olympus Stylus Epic lens, it couldn't even use all of the resolving
    power of that lens.

    The 28-300mm Tamron will easily provide the 10D with sufficient
    resolution to take great images. You'd have to move up to maybe a EOS
    1Ds before you'd see anything lacking.

    That's the thing about digital - until digital SLRs are working
    closer to film resolving powers (Kodak says at least 25MP of data in
    film), you won't need expensive, high resolution lenses because the
    extra resolution won't be used, won't be imaged, won't be useful at all
    to a lower resolution sensor.

    David Chien Guest

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    >
    > Some people don't have endless supplies of money. There's nothing
    > wrong with asking an opinion about a cheaper option.
    >
    >

    I think Canon 10D is not a cheap camera I wish to have so much money to buy
    it. If somebody can afford to pay over $1500 for camera body why not to
    spent $100 or so more to buy original high quality Canon lens ? Any way some
    Sigma's El Cheapos do not work with every Canon's body, perhaps other El
    Cheapos like Tamron have the same problems.


    Andy Guest

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    there is a review of that lens here

    [url]http://www.vividlight.com/articles/413.htm[/url]

    it seems pretty good - my next purchase if nobody has any serious negative
    points to raise?


    by the way - how many marks are there in this group???


    "Mark B." <mbohntrash54comcast.net> wrote in message
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    > "Mark M" <mjmorgan2cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:gtrQa.6359$Bp2.384fed1read07...
    > >
    > > "Tomash Bednarz" <warloquepoczta.one.pl> wrote in message
    > > news:betbm3$o65$1news.onet.pl...
    > > > do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > > > or is better to buy something else in the same level of price?
    > > > thanks in advance
    > > > regards
    > >
    > > Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save
    > one...the
    > > Canon 35-350 L).
    > >
    > > You will be severely crippling your 10D's abilities with that lens.
    > > It will be soft, very distorted at moth ends of the zoom, and slow
    (small
    > > aperture).
    > >
    > > I think you should break that zoom range into at least two
    > > lenses...preferably three--with one being wider to help deal with the
    > 10D's
    > > 1.6 multiplication factor. You don't have to spend a ton of money to do
    > FAR
    > > better here.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > I've also read a lot of good user reports for the Sigma 50-500. You
    > wouldn't think a 10x zoom would be any good, but according to users it's
    not
    > bad. Check out the Canon lens forum at dpreview.com.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    >

    Mark N Guest

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    "Andy" <andynoscam.com> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > >
    > > Some people don't have endless supplies of money. There's nothing
    > > wrong with asking an opinion about a cheaper option.
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    > I think Canon 10D is not a cheap camera I wish to have so much money to
    buy
    > it. If somebody can afford to pay over $1500 for camera body why not to
    > spent $100 or so more to buy original high quality Canon lens ? Any way
    some
    > Sigma's El Cheapos do not work with every Canon's body, perhaps other El
    > Cheapos like Tamron have the same problems.
    >
    >
    If the difference was only $100, I'd go for Canon L glass every time.
    That's not the case. Just as an example, the Sigma 70-200 EX f/2.8 is $700
    at B&H. Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L (non-IS) is $1100, more than a 50% difference.
    In this case, the Sigma is a very good compromise for the non-pro on a
    budget. The money saved can go toward a 550EX flash or a pair of 420EX's.

    Mark


    Mark B. Guest

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    "David Chien" <chiendhuci.edu> wrote in message
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    > >>>do u think, it's good option to buy such lens to 10d?
    > >>Any lens with 10:1 zoom ratio will be EXTREMELY compromised (save
    >
    > Huh? I don't think that's true, IMO.
    >
    > Keep in mind that the 10D only does a mere 6 megapixels.
    >
    > 3072 x 2048 pixels or so.
    >
    > Keep in mind that at the typical 50 lines / mm of resolution a good
    > P&S camera on 24x36mm frame gets you 2400x3600, which is more than the
    > 10D gets you.
    >
    > Bump up to an Olympus Stylus Epic P&S at just under 90 lines / mm of
    > resolution gets you around 4320x6480, which is far more than the 10D
    > gets you.
    >
    > ----
    >
    > Now, just think, on the 10D, with such limited resolution, does it
    > really matter if the 28-300mm Tamron isn't the highest resolving lens on
    > the planet?
    >
    > No!
    >
    > Even if it was a top quality Leica lens, there's no way on the planet
    > the 10D sensor could even utilize the incoming quality. Heck, even with
    > an Olympus Stylus Epic lens, it couldn't even use all of the resolving
    > power of that lens.
    You are talking out of your , and sound like the typical inexperienced
    shooter.
    I have 11 Canon lenses, from cheap to top-of-the-line L glass.
    The 10D most certainly does take advantage of the greater quality
    glass...but see below for a question about what the crap you're talking
    about here.
    >
    > The 28-300mm Tamron will easily provide the 10D with sufficient
    > resolution to take great images. You'd have to move up to maybe a EOS
    > 1Ds before you'd see anything lacking.
    Ummm... Who was talking about resolution, anyway?
    Not me.
    The lens is problematic for other reasons.
    Not sharp...distorted...and slow. I made no mention of resolution in my
    response.
    > That's the thing about digital - until digital SLRs are working
    > closer to film resolving powers (Kodak says at least 25MP of data in
    > film), you won't need expensive, high resolution lenses because the
    > extra resolution won't be used, won't be imaged, won't be useful at all
    > to a lower resolution sensor.
    Again...the voice of ignorance--not stupidity, mind you...just ignorance and
    inexperience. You are simply wrong here.


    Mark M Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:22:45 -0700, David Chien <chiendhuci.edu>
    wrote/replied to:
    > The 28-300mm Tamron will easily provide the 10D with sufficient
    >resolution to take great images. You'd have to move up to maybe a EOS
    >1Ds before you'd see anything lacking.
    Surprise surprise, the 10D has a tighter pixel array than the 1Ds.
    That means good glass is even more important for the 10d.

    Oh ya, all what you said before was bull, sorry. You don't have a
    clue.



    Jim Davis
    Nature Photography
    [url]http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/[/url]
    Jim Davis Guest

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    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:36:13 -0400, "Mark B."
    <mbohntrash54comcast.net> wrote/replied to:
    >If the difference was only $100, I'd go for Canon L glass every time.
    >That's not the case. Just as an example, the Sigma 70-200 EX f/2.8 is $700
    >at B&H. Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L (non-IS) is $1100, more than a 50% difference.
    >In this case, the Sigma is a very good compromise for the non-pro on a
    >budget. The money saved can go toward a 550EX flash or a pair of 420EX's.
    But, you can get a 70-200 f4 L for about the same price as the Sigma.
    It's very nice to have a big aperture, but if you ain't got sharpness,
    it doesn't matter. Plus of course, the Sigma would likely not work on
    the next Canon body you buy...



    Jim Davis
    Nature Photography
    [url]http://www.kjsl.com/~jbdavis/[/url]
    Jim Davis Guest

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    "Jim Davis" <ydavishkg.odn.ne.jp> wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:36:13 -0400, "Mark B."
    > <mbohntrash54comcast.net> wrote/replied to:
    >
    > >If the difference was only $100, I'd go for Canon L glass every time.
    > >That's not the case. Just as an example, the Sigma 70-200 EX f/2.8 is
    $700
    > >at B&H. Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L (non-IS) is $1100, more than a 50%
    difference.
    > >In this case, the Sigma is a very good compromise for the non-pro on a
    > >budget. The money saved can go toward a 550EX flash or a pair of
    420EX's.
    >
    > But, you can get a 70-200 f4 L for about the same price as the Sigma.
    > It's very nice to have a big aperture, but if you ain't got sharpness,
    > it doesn't matter. Plus of course, the Sigma would likely not work on
    > the next Canon body you buy...
    >

    Do you know that for sure? Of course you don't.

    Mark


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