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Anyone here have and use the 28mm f/1.8 USM prime? I used to have the 28mm f/2.8, but sold it with my D30. I know the f/1.8 is not supposed to be quite as sharp, but from the MTF charts it looks like the extra speed is worth it (it's not night and day difference on the MTF charts). Of course, USM and FTM are bonuses! How do you like yours? I'm looking for real-world experiences here, not theoretical hypothesis... :-) Regards, Rudi [url]http://www.rudiphoto.net/[/url]...

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    Default Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM, anyone?

    Anyone here have and use the 28mm f/1.8 USM prime? I used to have the
    28mm f/2.8, but sold it with my D30. I know the f/1.8 is not supposed
    to be quite as sharp, but from the MTF charts it looks like the extra
    speed is worth it (it's not night and day difference on the MTF
    charts). Of course, USM and FTM are bonuses!

    How do you like yours?

    I'm looking for real-world experiences here, not theoretical
    hypothesis... :-)


    Regards,

    Rudi
    [url]http://www.rudiphoto.net/[/url]
    Rudi Guest

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    "Rudi" <rudiwork.again> wrote in message
    news:o57hhv424s0r0oe7lib4gk43v8a00fjjhq4ax.com...
    > Anyone here have and use the 28mm f/1.8 USM prime? I used to have the
    > 28mm f/2.8, but sold it with my D30. I know the f/1.8 is not supposed
    > to be quite as sharp, but from the MTF charts it looks like the extra
    > speed is worth it (it's not night and day difference on the MTF
    > charts). Of course, USM and FTM are bonuses!
    >
    > How do you like yours?
    >
    > I'm looking for real-world experiences here, not theoretical
    > hypothesis... :-)
    Ask Canon for a lend or phone Baltronics for a rental.


    Miro Guest

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    I have a Sigma 28mm f1.8. It is not EX or USM or HSM or anything but I love
    it :)



    "Rudi" <rudiwork.again> wrote in message
    news:o57hhv424s0r0oe7lib4gk43v8a00fjjhq4ax.com...
    > Anyone here have and use the 28mm f/1.8 USM prime? I used to have the
    > 28mm f/2.8, but sold it with my D30. I know the f/1.8 is not supposed
    > to be quite as sharp, but from the MTF charts it looks like the extra
    > speed is worth it (it's not night and day difference on the MTF
    > charts). Of course, USM and FTM are bonuses!
    >
    > How do you like yours?
    >
    > I'm looking for real-world experiences here, not theoretical
    > hypothesis... :-)
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Rudi
    > [url]http://www.rudiphoto.net/[/url]

    David in Perth Guest

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    do you use it wide open (1.8) with good results or do you stop down a tad?
    JJ
    Lionel wrote in message ...
    >On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:20:21 +1000, in
    ><o57hhv424s0r0oe7lib4gk43v8a00fjjhq4ax.com>, Rudi <rudiwork.again>
    >said:
    >
    >>Anyone here have and use the 28mm f/1.8 USM prime?
    >
    >Yes, & I use it a lot for photographing live bands on stage with my 10D.
    >It's a really nice lens, & I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to
    >anyone.
    >
    >>28mm f/2.8, but sold it with my D30. I know the f/1.8 is not supposed
    >>to be quite as sharp, but from the MTF charts it looks like the extra
    >>speed is worth it
    >
    >I think so. With available light photography (90% of my photography), I
    >find that it makes the difference between having to shoot at 1/30th
    >instead of 1/15th, or shooting at ISO 800 vs 1600, either of which makes
    >for much better photos.
    >
    >>I'm looking for real-world experiences here, not theoretical
    >>hypothesis... :-)
    >
    >Hope this info is useful. :)
    >

    John Guest

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    Default Re: Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM, anyone?

    the reason I ask is because lens' often perform significantly better
    slightly stopped down and I was wondering if you'd noticed a significant
    difference in performance. Do you think the lens performs the same wide open
    as it does stopped down a little?
    JJ
    Lionel wrote in message ...
    >On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:35:40 +1000, in
    ><bfco64$ooe$1arachne.labyrinth.net.au>, "John" <jjphotopobox.com>
    >said:
    >
    >>do you use it wide open (1.8) with good results or do you stop down a tad?
    >
    >About 50/50. When I'm shooting people, I'll generally set automatic
    >shutter priority (Tv mode) at 1/30th, so it'll vary according to the
    >lighting (it's more important to me that I get the shot than it is that
    >the depth of field of focus be perfect). For other situations, I'll
    >close it down a little to increase depth of field.
    >

    John Guest

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    true, but I wanted to know what was the owners (Lionel) perception of his
    results. he answered honestly saying he wasn't of sure.
    JJ
    Miro wrote in message <3f1a7835$0$1207$afc38c87news.optusnet.com.au>. ..
    >
    >"John" <jjphotopobox.com> wrote in message
    >news:bfdoko$1dfs$1arachne.labyrinth.net.au...
    >> the reason I ask is because lens' often perform significantly better
    >> slightly stopped down and I was wondering if you'd noticed a significant
    >> difference in performance. Do you think the lens performs the same wide
    >open
    >> as it does stopped down a little?
    >> JJ
    >
    >That would be impossible that it can be as good wide open .....
    >
    >

    John Guest

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    "John" <jjphotopobox.com> wrote in message
    news:bff3p6$2cv4$1arachne.labyrinth.net.au...
    > true, but I wanted to know what was the owners (Lionel) perception of his
    > results. he answered honestly saying he wasn't of sure.
    > JJ
    Common sense prevails in these cases


    Miro Guest

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    > >
    > >That would be impossible that it can be as good wide open .....
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably good wide
    open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that lens.


    Miro Guest

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    "Lionel" <nopalt.net> wrote in message news:bffckd$q9q$0pita.alt.net...
    > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:23:23 +1000, in
    > <3f1b327e$0$1207$afc38c87news.optusnet.com.au>, " Miro"
    > <miro01hotmail.com> said:
    >
    > >> >That would be impossible that it can be as good wide open .....
    > [...]
    > >Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably good
    wide
    > >open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that lens.
    >
    > Try the EF 50mm f1.8 II wide open some time.
    >
    That's at least two models down from the 1.0 and 1.4 .... no big deal.


    Miro Guest

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    Miro wrote:
    > "Lionel" <nopalt.net> wrote in message news:bffckd$q9q$0pita.alt.net...
    >
    >>On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:23:23 +1000, in
    >><3f1b327e$0$1207$afc38c87news.optusnet.com.au >, " Miro"
    >><miro01hotmail.com> said:
    >>
    >>
    >>>>>That would be impossible that it can be as good wide open .....
    >>>>
    >>[...]
    >>
    >>>Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably good
    >>
    > wide
    >
    >>>open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that lens.
    >>
    >>Try the EF 50mm f1.8 II wide open some time.
    >>
    >
    >
    > That's at least two models down from the 1.0 and 1.4 .... no big deal.

    True.. but it is reputed to be sharper wide open that the faster two...
    which were probably built for speed.
    I read this on a review a long time abgo when purchasing my F 1.4

    I have never used a f1 (you have I assume as I rememebr you sold one once)

    Stopped down they are pretty much the same (apparently).. but still
    amongst the sharpest of all canon's lenses.
    BRenton

    Brenton Guest

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    I regularly use a Leitz 180mm f2.0 Apo Summicron R. This lens is actually
    only very slightly worse wide open at f2.0 than it is at f8. The difference
    is truly negligible. However it is technically not as good wide open as when
    stopped down. I believe (based on reviews and MTF charts, but not actual
    use) the Canon L 200mm f1.8 performs similarly. You'd hope so for the cost.
    JJ
    Miro wrote in message <3f1b327e$0$1207$afc38c87news.optusnet.com.au>. ..
    >
    >> >
    >> >That would be impossible that it can be as good wide open .....
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably good wide
    >open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that lens.
    >
    >

    John Guest

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    Default Re: Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM, anyone?

    > True.. but it is reputed to be sharper wide open that the faster two...
    > which were probably built for speed.
    > I read this on a review a long time abgo when purchasing my F 1.4
    >
    > I have never used a f1 (you have I assume as I rememebr you sold one once)
    >
    > Stopped down they are pretty much the same (apparently).. but still
    > amongst the sharpest of all canon's lenses.
    > BRenton
    The f1.0 is a pig of a lens.


    Miro Guest

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    "Brenton" <neuschulzbigpond.com> wrote in message
    news:3F1BDF6A.7040601bigpond.com...
    > Lionel wrote:
    >
    > > It's the sharpest lens I own. I've never used the f1.4 or f1.0 primes,
    > > but the f1.8 is sharper than either of my 'L' zooms, both of which are
    > > nice, sharp lenses.
    >
    > Way sharper... anyone who owns canon and has not got a 50 f1.8 (they are
    > about $165 new) does not know what they are missing.
    > BRenton
    I dont consider 50mm f1.8 to be super fast. It is a stock lens and does a
    great job.


    Miro Guest

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    Really really big! With an R8 on the back of it, you'd want to be pretty
    fit.
    > I have not seen the 180/f2 before. I always wondered what that brick was
    > like.
    >
    >

    Paul Guest

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    "Paul" <mr_nrg_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3f1c670dnews.alphalink.com.au...
    > Really really big! With an R8 on the back of it, you'd want to be pretty
    > fit.
    >
    > > I have not seen the 180/f2 before. I always wondered what that brick was
    > > like.
    > >
    Reminds me so much of the F2 AS from Nikon. Now that was a dead weight.


    Miro Guest

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    In article <bfi3ma$o7n$0pita.alt.net>, Lionel says...
    >
    >Well, by definition, it's obviously not going to be as fast as a 1.4 or
    >a 1.0. OTOH, it's something like a 1/3rd of the price of the 1.4, &
    >what, a 1/10th of the price of the 1.0?
    >
    There's some good comparisons re: the 1.4 and 1.8 at
    [url]http://cybaea.com/photo/lens-quality-50.html[/url] and
    [url]http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/ef50/[/url]

    Andrew Mc Guest

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    "Paul Repacholi" <prepprep.synonet.com> wrote in message
    news:873cgzkjlx.fsfprep.synonet.com...
    > " Miro" <miro01hotmail.com> writes:
    >
    > > Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably
    > > good wide open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that
    > > lens.
    >
    > The EF 300 f2.8II is reputed to be the top of the `wide open' pile.
    >
    You have peaked my interest. I will go back and have a look. I presume the
    most recent formulation ?

    I hear that their is a Fresnel version coming out that is smaller and
    lighter with better aberration levels.


    Miro Guest

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    I do use an R8 as it happens and the 180 f2.0 with the R8 is bloody heavy
    (and yes I do have a sore shoulder) but there is a huge advantage of all
    this extra weight. I use it for "pan" shots of cars and the extra weight
    gives lots of inertia which improves the sharpness of the images
    significantly. When I use a 180 f3.4 for the same purpose (about a 1/3 of
    the weight) my shots are generally less sharp although everything else is
    basically equal, ie shutter speeds and lens/focus sharpness. The only
    difference is that when you pan with a moving subject you need to follow the
    subject as smoothly as possible and the extra weight of the 180 f2 helps in
    this regard. The weight really does make a big difference. A small sand bag
    might also do the trick, and heaps cheaper.

    I sometimes wonder what the Canon 70-200/f2.8 IS L would be like for pan
    shots. I believe it has a pan function but haven't heard anything about how
    well it works.

    JJ
    Miro wrote in message <3f1c7ee5$0$1210$afc38c87news.optusnet.com.au>. ..
    >
    >"Paul" <mr_nrg_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:3f1c670dnews.alphalink.com.au...
    >> Really really big! With an R8 on the back of it, you'd want to be pretty
    >> fit.
    >>
    >> > I have not seen the 180/f2 before. I always wondered what that brick
    was
    >> > like.
    >> >
    >
    >Reminds me so much of the F2 AS from Nikon. Now that was a dead weight.
    >
    >

    John Guest

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    " Miro" <miro01hotmail.com> writes:
    > "Paul Repacholi" <prepprep.synonet.com> wrote in message
    > news:873cgzkjlx.fsfprep.synonet.com...
    > > " Miro" <miro01hotmail.com> writes:
    > >
    > > > Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably
    > > > good wide open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that
    > > > lens.
    > >
    > > The EF 300 f2.8II is reputed to be the top of the `wide open' pile.
    > >
    >
    > You have peaked my interest. I will go back and have a look. I presume the
    > most recent formulation ?
    'piqued'
    > I hear that their is a Fresnel version coming out that is smaller and
    > lighter with better aberration levels.
    'there'

    And if you have a good look through the Canon product information
    you'll see that the Fresnel based stuff has all sorts of exciting
    flare/coma problems. Ever wondered why the DO elements are about the
    first exotic element produced that don't warrant an L tag?

    B>
    Bruce Murphy Guest

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    "Bruce Murphy" <pack-newsrattus.net> wrote in message
    news:m2el0j7zle.fsffruitbat.ee.uwa.edu.au...
    > " Miro" <miro01hotmail.com> writes:
    >
    > > "Paul Repacholi" <prepprep.synonet.com> wrote in message
    > > news:873cgzkjlx.fsfprep.synonet.com...
    > > > " Miro" <miro01hotmail.com> writes:
    > > >
    > > > > Ok Let's go back a few steps. The Canon L 200mm f1.8 is probably
    > > > > good wide open. I dont recall any lens ever being as good as that
    > > > > lens.
    > > >
    > > > The EF 300 f2.8II is reputed to be the top of the `wide open' pile.
    > > >
    > >
    > > You have peaked my interest. I will go back and have a look. I presume
    the
    > > most recent formulation ?
    >
    > 'piqued'
    >
    > > I hear that their is a Fresnel version coming out that is smaller and
    > > lighter with better aberration levels.
    >
    > 'there'
    >
    > And if you have a good look through the Canon product information
    > you'll see that the Fresnel based stuff has all sorts of exciting
    > flare/coma problems. Ever wondered why the DO elements are about the
    > first exotic element produced that don't warrant an L tag?
    >
    > B>
    No I dont wonder. It doesnt worry me at all. Thanks for the corrections. I
    will put them with all the others.


    Miro Guest

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