Edit-->Show Clipboard as "styled text". I then opened a classic app so I can see the classic menu bar, and viewed the clipboard. The same text is visible, but with no formatting, so it looks like the italics (as an example of all formatting) doesn't survive the transition to Classic. But when I paste it into the handiest Classic app (Powerpoint), the formatting is preserved fully. What I've found is that MacOS X apps put large numbers of data "chunks" in alternative formats on the clipboard when you do a clipboard copy operation. Other apps may view only those formats they like or (perhaps for business reason) want you to have, or may offer you a limited choice. The app you paste in may have limited capability to choose among those formats, and limited capability to translate the contents. This would be very likely if you are transferring from a newer app to an older app, I think. I have a line on a MacOS X command-line utility that _may_ (repeat, _may_) allow you to process contents of MacOS X clipboard chunks and put the data back on the clipboard. Unless you are an adept scripter or programmer with time on your hands, this might be very impractical. Other than that, I don't know of any way of processing the clipboard in the way I believe I understand you want to do. Thanks, Henry [email]henryn@zzzspacebbs.com[/email] remove 'zzz' antispam [quote] > Thanks > urbanfox[/quote] [allowsmilie] => 1 [showsignature] => 0 [ipaddress] => [iconid] => 0 [visible] => 1 [attach] => 0 [infraction] => 0 [reportthreadid] => 0 [isusenetpost] => 1 [msgid] => [ref] => [htmlstate] => on_nl2br [postusername] => Henry [ip] => henryn@zzzspace [isdeleted] => 0 [usergroupid] => [membergroupids] => [displaygroupid] => [password] => [passworddate] => [email] => [styleid] => [parentemail] => [homepage] => [icq] => [aim] => [yahoo] => [msn] => [skype] => [showvbcode] => [showbirthday] => [usertitle] => [customtitle] => [joindate] => [daysprune] => [lastvisit] => [lastactivity] => [lastpost] => [lastpostid] => [posts] => [reputation] => [reputationlevelid] => [timezoneoffset] => [pmpopup] => [avatarid] => [avatarrevision] => [profilepicrevision] => [sigpicrevision] => [options] => [akvbghsfs_optionsfield] => [birthday] => [birthday_search] => [maxposts] => [startofweek] => [referrerid] => [languageid] => [emailstamp] => [threadedmode] => [autosubscribe] => [pmtotal] => [pmunread] => [salt] => [ipoints] => [infractions] => [warnings] => [infractiongroupids] => [infractiongroupid] => [adminoptions] => [profilevisits] => [friendcount] => [friendreqcount] => [vmunreadcount] => [vmmoderatedcount] => [socgroupinvitecount] => [socgroupreqcount] => [pcunreadcount] => [pcmoderatedcount] => [gmmoderatedcount] => [assetposthash] => [fbuserid] => [fbjoindate] => [fbname] => [logintype] => [fbaccesstoken] => [newrepcount] => [vbseo_likes_in] => [vbseo_likes_out] => [vbseo_likes_unread] => [temp] => [field1] => [field2] => [field3] => [field4] => [field5] => [subfolders] => [pmfolders] => [buddylist] => [ignorelist] => [signature] => [searchprefs] => [rank] => [icontitle] => [iconpath] => [avatarpath] => [hascustomavatar] => 0 [avatardateline] => [edit_userid] => [edit_username] => [edit_dateline] => [edit_reason] => [hashistory] => [pagetext_html] => [hasimages] => [signatureparsed] => [sighasimages] => [sigpic] => [sigpicdateline] => [sigpicwidth] => [sigpicheight] => [postcount] => 1 [attachments] => [allattachments] => ) -->paste of (say) a 500 x 500 Photoshop selection succeeds and of a different size (or even content) fails, and so on? Or if you do 20 identical copy-->paste operations at different times, some fail and some succeed? Or...?[quote] > > You raise an interesting question, I assume you are not a freehand > user (it is similar to illistrator).[/quote] I use AI 10. I tried Freehand at one point, I think, and found the UI very difficult, but this is purely a matter of personal preference, and the point is equally valid: a professional tool will beat Word every time. [quote] > There are a number of projects that could be done in either word or > freehand - wherever there is a mixture of text, graphics and/or > photo's on a page.[/quote] Until very recently, Word has had totally inadequate drawing tools. So bad that in the distant past I've actually done sketches in PowerPoint because that environment was more friendly, and transferred the artwork to Word. Yes, Word's drawing facilities have improved recently --they now look much more like those in PowerPoint-- so I _might_ consider doing some sketches in Word. Overall, I find Word generally very fragile, so I avoid doing anything I don't have to in Word. Still, Illustrator is a much superior environment. Note: I probably use less than 10% of the functionality, and I like the idea of having that "headroom". Another data point: Just yesterday I transferred a project I was maintaining in about 15 Illustrator files to InDesign 1.5 running in Classic. I have complaints about the speed and stability of InDesign 1.5, but the transfer to InDesign was very smooth -- on the surface. The pages looked identical, but the transfer seems to have interfered with some bulk attributes. For example, entire paragraphs become multiple text objects, or maybe even bitmap -- not generally editable. I'm currently working on a kind of marketing booklet. Even though I'm not doing very sophisticated work, I simply would not attempt to do this booklet in Word -- I have no confidence in Word's capability to do it. (Hmmm, I'm going to have to send a copy of this to a friend who is a staunch user and defender of Word's capabilities to do anything. Let's see if he can throw together something like this in Word.) [quote] > My preference is to work in freehand as I have much more control over layout > and my graphics render as vectors rather than bitmaps.[/quote] Amen. Professional tools. [quote] > My reason for using word in the process described is that the > freehand spell-check is in US english and word gives me the choice of > UK english.[/quote] I'm surprised that you can't get a UK dictionary for Freehand or modify your dictionary to proper UK English.[quote] > > Lastly the above raises another question, for some projects eg. a > letter combined with a letterhead (including logo) it would be > convenient for me to use word if I could import the letterhead graphic > into word without loosing quality by converting it first to a JPEG, > ie. maintaining it as a vector drawing. Is this possible?[/quote] In the past year or so I've noticed that Word's capabilities to properly render such imports has improved significantly. "Rendering quality" to me means that you get reasonable results on the screen, in a generated PDF, and --of course-- on at least one printer. About two years ago I was struggling with AI --> Word and it seemed that the PS filter was simply not being used. After I removed all the extensions and put them back, the PS import suddenly began working, and continued fitfully. More recently, almost all AI --> Word transfers I've checked (not too many, to be sure) have rendered reasonably well. I guess the "filters" have improved and perhaps grown in number during recent updates. Over the long run, it seems to me, people who use Word have not pushed it very hard to do good integration of graphics and rendering of same. Take your letterhead+logo case. I suspect a small proportion of attempts to do a reasonable job actually succeed. But people generally have a backup -- they paste up the graphic, take it to the printer, and come back with a box of pre-printed letterhead stationery. Uncle Bill hasn't been in much of a hurry to improve Word's capabilities. I don't know if this is the cause or result. 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