Clone O/S Upgrade from 8.6 to 9.2

[TOMZOM]

Does anyone know if it is possible to run O/S 9.2 on a Power Computing Power
Tower Pro 250 with a G3 400 Mghz card in it? Or do I ned to trash this
machine?

[Bill Rowe]

In article <20030718112251.18669.00000110@mb-m18.aol.com>,
[email]tomzom@aol.com[/email] (TOMZOM) wrote:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to run O/S 9.2 on a Power Computing Power
> Tower Pro 250 with a G3 400 Mghz card in it? Or do I ned to trash this
> machine?

I have a Power Computing PowerWave with a 275MHz G3 card running MacOS
9.1 on it just fine. Note, there is no point in going to MacOS 9.2 since
the differences between 9.1 and 9.2 were designed to address
compatibility issues with OS X running MacOS 9.1 in Classic mode.

[Mike Rosenberg]

Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Note, there is no point in going to MacOS 9.2 since
> the differences between 9.1 and 9.2 were designed to address
> compatibility issues with OS X running MacOS 9.1 in Classic mode.

True, but then companies like Intuit came along and released versions of
Quicken and Quickbooks that require 9.2.2.

--
Mike Rosenberg

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[Paul Sture]

In article <bjrowe-C55C77.20400719072003@nnrp05.earthlink.net>, Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> writes:

> In article <1fyc8rg.nruwt2wyux8pN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> ,
> [email]mike@POSTTOGROUP.inva[/email]lid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>

>> Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>> > Note, there is no point in going to MacOS 9.2 since
>> > the differences between 9.1 and 9.2 were designed to address
>> > compatibility issues with OS X running MacOS 9.1 in Classic mode.

>

>> True, but then companies like Intuit came along and released versions of
>> Quicken and Quickbooks that require 9.2.2.

>
> I wasn't aware Intuit or other companies had done that. But I am
> curious. Do these versions truly require 9.2.2 or is that just lazy
> marketing?
>
> If these versions truly require 9.2.2, that means they are intended to
> run in Classic mode on a machine running OS X. Surely, that is a silly
> design decision since someone running OS X would undoubtedly prefer a
> version that does not require Classic mode.

After the fiasco where Inuit refused to offer a fix for the Quickbooks
help files not installing properly under Windows NT - "We only support
our product on Win3.1 and Win95", this does not surprise me in the
least.

[Mike Rosenberg]

Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I wasn't aware Intuit or other companies had done that. But I am
> curious. Do these versions truly require 9.2.2 or is that just lazy
> marketing?

The installers won't proceed if you don't have 9.2.2. I learned about
this when I got a call from a client running 9.1 on her iMac. She'd
just bought Quicken 2003 and couldn't install it.

> If these versions truly require 9.2.2, that means they are intended to
> run in Classic mode on a machine running OS X. Surely, that is a silly
> design decision since someone running OS X would undoubtedly prefer a
> version that does not require Classic mode.

They're carbon apps and run natively in OS X. Intuit simply imposed a
silly requirement. Maybe they're taking cues from cable and DSL ISPs.
;-)

--
Mike Rosenberg

<http://www.macconsult.com>
<http://bogart-tribute.net>

[Michael Allbritton]

In article <bjrowe-C55C77.20400719072003@nnrp05.earthlink.net>, Bill
Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

> In article <1fyc8rg.nruwt2wyux8pN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> ,
> [email]mike@POSTTOGROUP.inva[/email]lid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>

> > Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> > > Note, there is no point in going to MacOS 9.2 since
> > > the differences between 9.1 and 9.2 were designed to address
> > > compatibility issues with OS X running MacOS 9.1 in Classic mode.

>

> > True, but then companies like Intuit came along and released versions of
> > Quicken and Quickbooks that require 9.2.2.

>
> I wasn't aware Intuit or other companies had done that. But I am
> curious. Do these versions truly require 9.2.2 or is that just lazy
> marketing?
>
> If these versions truly require 9.2.2, that means they are intended to
> run in Classic mode on a machine running OS X. Surely, that is a silly
> design decision since someone running OS X would undoubtedly prefer a
> version that does not require Classic mode.

According to the Quicken 2003 for Mac web page it does require 9.2.2.
<[url]http://www.shop.intuit.com/store/jhtml/sysreq.jhtml?priorityCode=501034[/url]
8&categoryId=cat101202&productId=prod10047&product Line=Quicken&pageLocat
ion=Quicken&sellType=>

Quicken 2003 is a Carbon app that runs in both Classic Mac OS and Mac
OS X, and since Apple has said that Classic Mac OS is dead I would
surmise that Quicken simply sees no reason to continue to support older
versions of Mac OS with new versions of the software.
Michael

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[Charles Phillips]

Michael Allbritton <zcoevgg@znp.pbz> wrote:

>In article <bjrowe-C55C77.20400719072003@nnrp05.earthlink.net>, Bill
>Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:
>

>> In article <1fyc8rg.nruwt2wyux8pN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> ,
>> [email]mike@POSTTOGROUP.inva[/email]lid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>>

>> > Bill Rowe <bjrowe@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>> > > Note, there is no point in going to MacOS 9.2 since
>> > > the differences between 9.1 and 9.2 were designed to address
>> > > compatibility issues with OS X running MacOS 9.1 in Classic mode.

According to some pundits - the Finder is noticeably faster in 9.2.2 than
9.1. One my UMAX clone, 9.2.2 was a pretty easy upgrade (with OS9Helper)
and it was pretty fast before.

>> > True, but then companies like Intuit came along and released versions

of

>> > Quicken and Quickbooks that require 9.2.2.

>>
>> I wasn't aware Intuit or other companies had done that. But I am
>> curious. Do these versions truly require 9.2.2 or is that just lazy
>> marketing?
>>
>> If these versions truly require 9.2.2, that means they are intended to

>> run in Classic mode on a machine running OS X. Surely, that is a silly

>> design decision since someone running OS X would undoubtedly prefer a

>> version that does not require Classic mode.

>
>According to the Quicken 2003 for Mac web page it does require 9.2.2.
><[url]http://www.shop.intuit.com/store/jhtml/sysreq.jhtml?priorityCode=501034[/url]
>8&categoryId=cat101202&productId=prod10047&produc tLine=Quicken&pageLocat
>ion=Quicken&sellType=>
>
>Quicken 2003 is a Carbon app that runs in both Classic Mac OS and Mac
>OS X, and since Apple has said that Classic Mac OS is dead I would
>surmise that Quicken simply sees no reason to continue to support older
>versions of Mac OS with new versions of the software.
>Michael
>

Charles
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