coding not doing as told

[kerrysmagicshirt]

Hi there i was hoping you could help me with some little problems

my page layout is set in a table 1c x 3 r
in r2 i hace placed another table 1x1, and in this placed a .swf.
i have set the alignment to abs middle and wmode to transparent - yet when i
hit f 12 niether have been applied.
Here's the code:
[Q]<object classid="clsid27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
rsion=7,0,19,0" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle">[/Q]

can anyone see what's wrong please.
Thanks xx

[Murray *ACE*]

Post a link to the page so we can see the relevant code, please.

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there i was hoping you could help me with some little problems
>
> my page layout is set in a table 1c x 3 r
> in r2 i hace placed another table 1x1, and in this placed a .swf.
> i have set the alignment to abs middle and wmode to transparent - yet when
> i
> hit f 12 niether have been applied.
> Here's the code:
> [Q]<object classid="clsid27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
> rsion=7,0,19,0" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle">[/Q]
>
> can anyone see what's wrong please.
> Thanks xx
>

[kerrysmagicshirt]

Well i did post all the relevent code there - but it hasn't all displayed - i
havn't got the site live as yet i was waiting till it was complete and working
remotley before paying for the hosting.

here it is without the quote handles:

<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
rsion=7,0,19,0" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle">
<param name="movie" value="Map.swf" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
<embed src="Map.swf" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle" quality="high"
pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent">
</object>

[Murray *ACE*]

The align="absmiddle' is for inline tags (images), and forces them to align
with the wrapping text at the middle of the inline tag. The <object> tag is
not an inline tag (at least I don't think it is), and I can find no
indication that "absmiddle" would have any effect on it.

What are you trying to do with the wmode parameter?

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Well i did post all the relevent code there - but it hasn't all
> displayed - i
> havn't got the site live as yet i was waiting till it was complete and
> working
> remotley before paying for the hosting.
>
> here it is without the quote handles:
>
> <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
> rsion=7,0,19,0" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle">
> <param name="movie" value="Map.swf" />
> <param name="quality" value="high" />
> <param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
> <embed src="Map.swf" width="400" height="600" align="absmiddle"
> quality="high"
> pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent">
> </object>
>

[kerrysmagicshirt]

ok i understand (i think) thanks - so how would i get that table to sit in the
centre of the cell it's inside then. i generally work in design mode (coming
from a graphic background) so did not hand code this page.

The wmode>transparent is a trick i have used sucessfully many times before -
it removes the background from your flash file so you can place a flash image
onto a background image neatly.

see [url]www.toxiccreations.co.uk[/url] for an example.

[Deaf Web Designer]

The contact text looks a bit fuzzy. You might want to fix that one. I am viewing it on my Safari on Mac OSX 10.4.8. I checked on FireFox, same problem.

[Murray *ACE*]

> ok i understand (i think) thanks - so how would i get that table to sit in

> the
> centre of the cell it's inside then. i generally work in design mode
> (coming
> from a graphic background) so did not hand code this page.

I will just comment anecdotally, that the people I see have some of the most
distressing problems on this forum (and really on the DW general forum,
which is where this post/thread belongs) are those who come from a print
background and cannot/will not unlearn their print experience and accept
that the web is not a printed page.

> The wmode>transparent is a trick i have used sucessfully many times
> before -
> it removes the background from your flash file so you can place a flash
> image
> onto a background image neatly.

Sure - I know what wmode does. I was wondering what you were expecting it to
do on your page. Can you post a link to the page, please?

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> ok i understand (i think) thanks - so how would i get that table to sit in
> the
> centre of the cell it's inside then. i generally work in design mode
> (coming
> from a graphic background) so did not hand code this page.
>
> The wmode>transparent is a trick i have used sucessfully many times
> before -
> it removes the background from your flash file so you can place a flash
> image
> onto a background image neatly.
>
> see [url]www.toxiccreations.co.uk[/url] for an example.
>

[Deaf Web Designer]

Say Murray,

In case if you overlooked this one... here it goes.

As for your question quoted:

> Can you post a link to the page, please?

"see [url]www.toxiccreations.co.uk[/url] for an example." quoted by OP.

[Murray *ACE*]

It was not clear to me if that was *the* page, or an example page.

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"Deaf Web Designer" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Say Murray,
>
> In case if you overlooked this one... here it goes.
>
> As for your question quoted:

> > Can you post a link to the page, please?

>
> "see [url]www.toxiccreations.co.uk[/url] for an example." quoted by OP.
>
>

[Deaf Web Designer]

Murray,

> It was not clear to me if that was *the* page, or an example page.

Ok, I suppose the OP should have be a bit more clear about what page the OP want us to take a look at.

[kerrysmagicshirt]

Stop squabbeling for a min guys and read what i have put
[Q]i havn't got the site live as yet i was waiting till it was complete and
working remotley before paying for the hosting.[/Q]

I did not ask for a critique on the Toxic Creations site as it's not finished
and the contact text has nothing to do with my question. It was mearly stated
as an example of the wmode>transparent in action.

Murray i appriciate if this post is in the wrong thread. But if it is feel
free to move it, i won't get offended.

As for print v's web design - clearly they are not the same thing and require
a completely different way of thinking about things - which is exactly why i
came to ask you guys (the experts) to ask how it is done - that is after i have
scourerd DW's help

When i get a moment tonight i will try and get the page up onto a server for
you to look at - but i thought if it was a coding problem this wouldn't be
needed as i have posted the code. As for what i am trying to do with the wmode
- i am trying to remove the background of my swf end off. nothing more nothing
less - the content of the swf is irrelivent to the problem. However you will
see later.


If you would please ignor the diversions we have suffered here and focus on
the initial question(S) i would be very greatful.
Many Thanks,

[kerrysmagicshirt]

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
The align="absmiddle' is for inline tags (images), and forces them to align
with the wrapping text at the middle of the inline tag. The <object> tag is
not an inline tag (at least I don't think it is), and I can find no
indication that "absmiddle" would have any effect on it.[/q]

Ok so if i have got this right i should be able to get my swf to centre by
stretching the 1x1 table to fill the cell it is inside - then apply absmiddle
to the swf and it will sit int he centre of the 1x1 table. Have i got this
right?
If not please correct.

[Murray *ACE*]

No. Absmiddle will have no effect on the swf file if applied to it. It
only has meaning when applied to an inline tag. But, the default alignment
of a table cell is left/middle for horiz/vertical. A swf file in a table
cell will be aligned vertically in the middle of that cell without doing
anything. If you make the horiz alignment center, then you have your
middle/middle alignment.

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> [q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
> The align="absmiddle' is for inline tags (images), and forces them to
> align
> with the wrapping text at the middle of the inline tag. The <object> tag
> is
> not an inline tag (at least I don't think it is), and I can find no
> indication that "absmiddle" would have any effect on it.[/q]
>
> Ok so if i have got this right i should be able to get my swf to centre by
> stretching the 1x1 table to fill the cell it is inside - then apply
> absmiddle
> to the swf and it will sit int he centre of the 1x1 table. Have i got
> this
> right?
> If not please correct.
>
>
>
>
>

[kerrysmagicshirt]

Ahhh thanks Murray Much appriciated.
I was just thinking that if it didn't work i could take out the 1x1 table and
insert a 3c x 1 r table instead and put it in the middle cell - but your way
seems neater.

There is always a way around things :D.

Now any idea why that wmode isn't working please. i havn't done anything
different then i normally would. Could it be to do with the swf itself?

Cheers x

[Murray *ACE*]

wmode is not completely reliable under the best of circumstances.

> Could it be to do with the swf itself?

No.

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Ahhh thanks Murray Much appriciated.
> I was just thinking that if it didn't work i could take out the 1x1 table
> and
> insert a 3c x 1 r table instead and put it in the middle cell - but your
> way
> seems neater.
>
> There is always a way around things :D.
>
> Now any idea why that wmode isn't working please. i havn't done anything
> different then i normally would. Could it be to do with the swf itself?
>
> Cheers x
>
>

[kerrysmagicshirt]

ok thanks for the advice - i take it that wmode>transparent is the only way to remove the background though right?

*off to google wmode*

[Murray *ACE*]

Yeah....

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> ok thanks for the advice - i take it that wmode>transparent is the only
> way to remove the background though right?
>
> *off to google wmode*

[kerrysmagicshirt]

i did exactly what it says in option two all along that's what mean. that's why i can't see why it won't work :(

[kerrysmagicshirt]

i did exactly what it says in option two all along that's what mean. that's why i can't see why it won't work :(

[Murray *ACE*]

Post a link to the page?

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"kerrysmagicshirt" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>i did exactly what it says in option two all along that's what mean.
>that's why i can't see why it won't work :(