Color Management again and again

[Tudor M. Vedeanu]

Hello everybody,

I've searched the forum looking for solutions regarding Kodak Color
Management problems in Freehand MX. Here's what's happening on 2
different Win XP computers:

- I installed Freehand MX on a clean XP system. Kodak Color Management
Module seems to be working fine, I am able to choose various profiles
and settings from the drop downs in the Preferences panel.
- after a while (and several installations of Adobe products) the KCMM
became corrupted. Cannot choose any profiles, in the drop downs there
are strange characters and words which seem to appear randomly. Once in
a while when I try to modify the settings Freehand quits in a
milisecond. After restarting Freehand the dropdowns are blank, no color
profiles, no random words, nothing.
- I remember a few weeks ago I found the solution proposed by Jukka (if
I remember well) - downloading the files from Kodak website and copying
the DLLs in Freehand folder. At that time it worked!!!
- Yesterday I discovered that the KCMM is broken again. I suspect this
has something to do with Adobe Pagemaker 7 I installed recently. This
time I wasn't able to repair KCMS by updating the DLLs. I also tried
uninstalling and installing FHMX and PM7. Nothing. Dead and gone forever.
- In the meantime, on another WinXP system with Photoshop and Freehand
only, the KCMS is working perfectly.

Apparently I made the mistake to allow PageMaker to install it's own
version of Kodak Color Management Module.

Does anyone know where the KCMM is located on a WinXP computer? Can it
be uninstalled? Can it be configured? Freehand, CorelDraw, PageMaker are
using it, but where is it? Is it just those DLL files in the Windows folder?

Thanks,
Tudor

[david gangwisch]

Your problem my be with an aberrant ICM or ICC profile instead of with the
DLLs. Try searching to two HD's for all files with the .icm and .icc
extension. Compare the list from the machine where FHMX's CM is working with
the one that fails. Now rename, simply altering the extension is adequate,
all of the profiles present on the "broken" machine that are not present on
the "good" machine.

If this "fixes" the "broken" FH installation it proves to problem to be a
profile that FH isn't happy with; likely one that one of your recent
installations added. We have seen a few oddly coded profiles give FH's Kodak
CMS grief. If you can narrow it down to a single specific profile we'd love
to get a copy of it for dissection.

There is one that we recently found on a couple of Mac OSX machines named
"BlackWhite.icc". Under OSX, the presence of this little creature in one of
the system Profiles folders will cause FHMX's CMS fail. There have been some
profiles on Win that FH's CM has found equally distasteful.

David W Gangwisch
Software Design Engineer - FreeHand
Macromedia, Inc.


"Tudor M. Vedeanu" <tmvedeanu@spamsucks.netscape.net> wrote in message
news:bgvoap$t6a$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> Hello everybody,
>
> I've searched the forum looking for solutions regarding Kodak Color
> Management problems in Freehand MX. Here's what's happening on 2
> different Win XP computers:
>
> - I installed Freehand MX on a clean XP system. Kodak Color Management
> Module seems to be working fine, I am able to choose various profiles
> and settings from the drop downs in the Preferences panel.
> - after a while (and several installations of Adobe products) the KCMM
> became corrupted. Cannot choose any profiles, in the drop downs there
> are strange characters and words which seem to appear randomly. Once in
> a while when I try to modify the settings Freehand quits in a
> milisecond. After restarting Freehand the dropdowns are blank, no color
> profiles, no random words, nothing.
> - I remember a few weeks ago I found the solution proposed by Jukka (if
> I remember well) - downloading the files from Kodak website and copying
> the DLLs in Freehand folder. At that time it worked!!!
> - Yesterday I discovered that the KCMM is broken again. I suspect this
> has something to do with Adobe Pagemaker 7 I installed recently. This
> time I wasn't able to repair KCMS by updating the DLLs. I also tried
> uninstalling and installing FHMX and PM7. Nothing. Dead and gone forever.
> - In the meantime, on another WinXP system with Photoshop and Freehand
> only, the KCMS is working perfectly.
>
> Apparently I made the mistake to allow PageMaker to install it's own
> version of Kodak Color Management Module.
>
> Does anyone know where the KCMM is located on a WinXP computer? Can it
> be uninstalled? Can it be configured? Freehand, CorelDraw, PageMaker are
> using it, but where is it? Is it just those DLL files in the Windows

folder?

>
> Thanks,
> Tudor
>

[Armadillo]

> Apparently I made the mistake to allow PageMaker to install it's own
> version of Kodak Color Management Module.

The problem may have nothing to do with Adobe or any other software. A
friend of mine just installed WinXP and FreeHand Studio to a new computer.
Before she made any work or even set up Internet connection I checked Kodak
Color Management in FHMX and it was already broken.

Jukka

[Armadillo]

> David W Gangwisch
> Software Design Engineer - FreeHand
> Macromedia, Inc.

I respect your courage to post here with that title since you and your
colleagues are in the top five of my "I want to kick his butt list".

Jukka

[Tudor M. Vedeanu]

Great! Thank you David! After cleaning up the ICM and ICC profiles and
another Freehand reinstall all went back to normal! :-)

Tudor

david gangwisch wrote:

> Your problem my be with an aberrant ICM or ICC profile instead of with the
> DLLs. Try searching to two HD's for all files with the .icm and .icc
> extension. Compare the list from the machine where FHMX's CM is working with
> the one that fails. Now rename, simply altering the extension is adequate,
> all of the profiles present on the "broken" machine that are not present on
> the "good" machine.
>
> If this "fixes" the "broken" FH installation it proves to problem to be a
> profile that FH isn't happy with; likely one that one of your recent
> installations added. We have seen a few oddly coded profiles give FH's Kodak
> CMS grief. If you can narrow it down to a single specific profile we'd love
> to get a copy of it for dissection.
>
> There is one that we recently found on a couple of Mac OSX machines named
> "BlackWhite.icc". Under OSX, the presence of this little creature in one of
> the system Profiles folders will cause FHMX's CMS fail. There have been some
> profiles on Win that FH's CM has found equally distasteful.
>
> David W Gangwisch
> Software Design Engineer - FreeHand
> Macromedia, Inc.

[Armadillo]

> Your problem my be with an aberrant ICM or ICC profile instead of with the
> DLLs. Try searching to two HD's for all files with the .icm and .icc

This actually fixes the Kodak Color Management problem in WinXp. Thanks.

However, it shouldn't take half a year to figure that out and you are still
on my "I want to kick his butt list" Now maybe dropped from top five to top
ten.

Jukka