compatibility entry in the supersedes data of a fileset

[Ron]

I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
error, and the install fails.

0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
fileset in error is:
ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18

The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.

Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?

Thanks,

Ron

[Chris Mattern]

Ron wrote:

> I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
> error, and the install fails.
>
> 0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
> a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
> compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
> and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
> fileset in error is:
> ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18
>
> The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
> apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
> of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.
>
> Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?
>

Well, an overwrite certainly isn't required. If worse comes to worst,
uninstall the problem filesets. Being COMMITted means you can't roll
back to the previous level, but you can still delete the whole fileset.
Reinstall after you successfully complete the upgrade.

Chris Mattern

[Ron]

Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
: Ron wrote:
:> I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
:> error, and the install fails.
:>
:> 0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
:> a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
:> compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
:> and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
:> fileset in error is:
:> ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18
:>
:> The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
:> apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
:> of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.
:>
:> Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?
:>
: Well, an overwrite certainly isn't required. If worse comes to worst,
: uninstall the problem filesets. Being COMMITted means you can't roll
: back to the previous level, but you can still delete the whole fileset.
: Reinstall after you successfully complete the upgrade.

: Chris Mattern

Thanks for the response Chris,

That is what I had hoped to be able to do, but bos.mp is dependent on
ifor_ls.libraries, so it can't be deinstalled. I think I can do that with
any of the other filesets if I need to, but the licensing (ifor_ls) can't
be deinstalled. I tried in preview only mode.

Ron

[Chris Mattern]

Ron wrote:

> Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
> : Ron wrote:
> :> I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
> :> error, and the install fails.
> :>
> :> 0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
> :> a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
> :> compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
> :> and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
> :> fileset in error is:
> :> ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18
> :>
> :> The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
> :> apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
> :> of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.
> :>
> :> Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?
> :>
> : Well, an overwrite certainly isn't required. If worse comes to worst,
> : uninstall the problem filesets. Being COMMITted means you can't roll
> : back to the previous level, but you can still delete the whole fileset.
> : Reinstall after you successfully complete the upgrade.
>
> : Chris Mattern
>
> Thanks for the response Chris,
>
> That is what I had hoped to be able to do, but bos.mp is dependent on
> ifor_ls.libraries, so it can't be deinstalled. I think I can do that with
> any of the other filesets if I need to, but the licensing (ifor_ls) can't
> be deinstalled. I tried in preview only mode.
>
> Ron

Well, hmm. That sucks. I've never done that upgrade, but the problem
seems to be that it's choking on trying to upgrade ifor_ls.libraries.
Can you tell the upgrade not to try upgrading that fileset?

It does seem odd that an APAR would upgrade you to 5.1 filesets on
a 4.3.3 system. I know none of the standard maintenance levels do
that. I assume you mean bos.rte.ifor_ls (there is no ifor_ls.libraries,
but bos.rte.ifor_ls is described as "iFOR/LS Libraries"). We have ML 11,
the latest maint level, and that was level 4.3.3.75. IBM's Fix Deliver Center
([url]https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/aix.fdc[/url]) lists no APARs for
this fileset requiring a 5.1 version for a 4.3 system, and does in fact
gived 4.3.3.75 as the highest level patch available for a 4.3 system.
Are you sure you fetched the right APAR to patch your system?

Second thought--it looks like it's complaining that the 5.l upgrade
wants to upgrade the problem filesets to a level lower than what
you already have. Any possibility you could upgrade to 5.2 instead?

Third thought--could you get a more recent 5.1 upgrade package?
V5.1 bos.rte.ifor_ls has been patched to 5.1.0.50, so a more recent
upgrade package might have that fileset at a higher level.



Chris Mattern

[Ron]

Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
: Ron wrote:
:> Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
:> : Ron wrote:
:> :> I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
:> :> error, and the install fails.
:> :>
:> :> 0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
:> :> a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
:> :> compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
:> :> and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
:> :> fileset in error is:
:> :> ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18
:> :>
:> :> The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
:> :> apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
:> :> of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.
:> :>
:> :> Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?
:> :>
:> : Well, an overwrite certainly isn't required. If worse comes to worst,
:> : uninstall the problem filesets. Being COMMITted means you can't roll
:> : back to the previous level, but you can still delete the whole fileset.
:> : Reinstall after you successfully complete the upgrade.
:>
:> : Chris Mattern
:>
:> Thanks for the response Chris,
:>
:> That is what I had hoped to be able to do, but bos.mp is dependent on
:> ifor_ls.libraries, so it can't be deinstalled. I think I can do that with
:> any of the other filesets if I need to, but the licensing (ifor_ls) can't
:> be deinstalled. I tried in preview only mode.
:>
:> Ron

: Well, hmm. That sucks. I've never done that upgrade, but the problem
: seems to be that it's choking on trying to upgrade ifor_ls.libraries.
: Can you tell the upgrade not to try upgrading that fileset?

: It does seem odd that an APAR would upgrade you to 5.1 filesets on
: a 4.3.3 system. I know none of the standard maintenance levels do
: that. I assume you mean bos.rte.ifor_ls (there is no ifor_ls.libraries,
: but bos.rte.ifor_ls is described as "iFOR/LS Libraries"). We have ML 11,
: the latest maint level, and that was level 4.3.3.75. IBM's Fix Deliver Center
: ([url]https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/aix.fdc[/url]) lists no APARs for
: this fileset requiring a 5.1 version for a 4.3 system, and does in fact
: gived 4.3.3.75 as the highest level patch available for a 4.3 system.
: Are you sure you fetched the right APAR to patch your system?

: Second thought--it looks like it's complaining that the 5.l upgrade
: wants to upgrade the problem filesets to a level lower than what
: you already have. Any possibility you could upgrade to 5.2 instead?

: Third thought--could you get a more recent 5.1 upgrade package?
: V5.1 bos.rte.ifor_ls has been patched to 5.1.0.50, so a more recent
: upgrade package might have that fileset at a higher level.



: Chris Mattern

One of the confusing things to me is that there is actually a ifor_ls.libraries
fileset installed at the 5.1.0.18 level and its description is
"License Use Management", and there is also the bos.rte.ifor_ls fileset
described as "iFOR/LS Libraries" - and this fileset is at the 4.3.3.75 level.
Its the only "ifor" fileset not at version 5 something. If I try to install
the version 5 bos.rte.ifor_ls fileset (5.1.0.25) off the install CD
I get the error;

MISSING REQUISITES: The following filesets are required by one or more
of the selected filesets listed above. They are not currently installed
and could not be found on the installation media.

bos.rte.ifor_ls 5.1.0.0 # Base Level Fileset

I'm thinking this is actually my problem, but where is bos.rte.ifor_ls 5.1.0.0
located?

5.2 "might" be an option - I've had to wait this long to upgrade to 5L due
to Oracle issues, but believe 5.2 would would with it now. Oracle HR was the
problem. I'm not totally convinced 5.2 would fix the problem though.

I had tried a later version of the install media, but same problem occured.

I looked at another 5.1 system that I have access to, but its not mine, and
the ifor_ls.libraries fileset isn't on it when looking at the installed files
with lslpp -l so thats still confusing too.

Ron

[Chris Mattern]

Ron wrote:

> Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
> : Ron wrote:
> :> Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> wrote:
> :> : Ron wrote:
> :> :> I'm trying to do a migration install from 4.3.3 to 5.1 and get the following
> :> :> error, and the install fails.
> :> :>
> :> :> 0503-256 installp: Error: A compatibility entry in the supersedes data of
> :> :> a fileset should have the same name but not the same level as the
> :> :> compatible fileset. The level should be greater than all base levels
> :> :> and updates released for the compatible (superseded) fileset. The
> :> :> fileset in error is:
> :> :> ifor_ls.libraries 5.1.0.18
> :> :>
> :> :> The ifor_ls.libraries fileset at this level was part of a security related
> :> :> apar that I installed months ago, and its been committed. There are a handful
> :> :> of other 5.1 level filesets that have been installed also.
> :> :>
> :> :> Any thoughts on fixing this other than doing a complete overwrite install?
> :> :>
> :> : Well, an overwrite certainly isn't required. If worse comes to worst,
> :> : uninstall the problem filesets. Being COMMITted means you can't roll
> :> : back to the previous level, but you can still delete the whole fileset.
> :> : Reinstall after you successfully complete the upgrade.
> :>
> :> : Chris Mattern
> :>
> :> Thanks for the response Chris,
> :>
> :> That is what I had hoped to be able to do, but bos.mp is dependent on
> :> ifor_ls.libraries, so it can't be deinstalled. I think I can do that with
> :> any of the other filesets if I need to, but the licensing (ifor_ls) can't
> :> be deinstalled. I tried in preview only mode.
> :>
> :> Ron
>
> : Well, hmm. That sucks. I've never done that upgrade, but the problem
> : seems to be that it's choking on trying to upgrade ifor_ls.libraries.
> : Can you tell the upgrade not to try upgrading that fileset?
>
> : It does seem odd that an APAR would upgrade you to 5.1 filesets on
> : a 4.3.3 system. I know none of the standard maintenance levels do
> : that. I assume you mean bos.rte.ifor_ls (there is no ifor_ls.libraries,
> : but bos.rte.ifor_ls is described as "iFOR/LS Libraries"). We have ML 11,
> : the latest maint level, and that was level 4.3.3.75. IBM's Fix Deliver Center
> : ([url]https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/aix.fdc[/url]) lists no APARs for
> : this fileset requiring a 5.1 version for a 4.3 system, and does in fact
> : gived 4.3.3.75 as the highest level patch available for a 4.3 system.
> : Are you sure you fetched the right APAR to patch your system?
>
> : Second thought--it looks like it's complaining that the 5.l upgrade
> : wants to upgrade the problem filesets to a level lower than what
> : you already have. Any possibility you could upgrade to 5.2 instead?
>
> : Third thought--could you get a more recent 5.1 upgrade package?
> : V5.1 bos.rte.ifor_ls has been patched to 5.1.0.50, so a more recent
> : upgrade package might have that fileset at a higher level.
>
>
>
> : Chris Mattern
>
> One of the confusing things to me is that there is actually a ifor_ls.libraries
> fileset installed at the 5.1.0.18 level and its description is
> "License Use Management", and there is also the bos.rte.ifor_ls fileset
> described as "iFOR/LS Libraries" - and this fileset is at the 4.3.3.75 level.
> Its the only "ifor" fileset not at version 5 something. If I try to install
> the version 5 bos.rte.ifor_ls fileset (5.1.0.25) off the install CD
> I get the error;
>
> MISSING REQUISITES: The following filesets are required by one or more
> of the selected filesets listed above. They are not currently installed
> and could not be found on the installation media.
>
> bos.rte.ifor_ls 5.1.0.0 # Base Level Fileset
>
> I'm thinking this is actually my problem, but where is bos.rte.ifor_ls 5.1.0.0
> located?
>
> 5.2 "might" be an option - I've had to wait this long to upgrade to 5L due
> to Oracle issues, but believe 5.2 would would with it now. Oracle HR was the
> problem. I'm not totally convinced 5.2 would fix the problem though.
>
> I had tried a later version of the install media, but same problem occured.
>
> I looked at another 5.1 system that I have access to, but its not mine, and
> the ifor_ls.libraries fileset isn't on it when looking at the installed files
> with lslpp -l so thats still confusing too.
>

At this point I have no idea what you have installed on your machine. IBM's
Fix Deliver Center refuses to acknowledge *any* such fileset as ifor.ls_libraries.
Google cannot find anything *anywhere* about it. I think you're going to
need to talk to somebody who knows more than I do; you may need to get official
IBM support involved if you don't just want to wipe the machine and start
over. Good luck.

Chris Mattern