Copying Directory Structures

[Ronald J Marchand]

"Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message
news:tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03...

> I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5 server
> (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new server
> running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed and

can

> do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to copy
> the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact,

from

> the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up from
> one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for the
> purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are "oldsystem"

and

> "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> respectively.
>
> Thank you for any help you can give.
>
> Joe Burns, President
> CompuGeek, L.L.C.

If the two machines are on the same local network, why not mount the
directory of the first machine to the second and just 'copy' at will?

Ron

[Stephen M. Dunn]

In article <tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03> "Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> writes:
$ Now I need to copy
$the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact, from
$the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
$believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up from
$one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
$process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
$something else?

I'm not claiming this is necessarily the best way, but I've done
this before using rcmd - something like (run this on the source machine):

find | cpio -o | rcmd destinationmachine "cd /wherever; cpio -i"

You'll have to add appropriate arguments to the find and cpio
and cpio commands; the man pages for those two have plenty of
information.

Doing it this way, you don't have any temporary files; the output
of cpio on the source machine is fed across the network to the input
of cpio on the destination machine.
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Stephen M. Dunn typed (on Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 04:40:04PM +0000):
| In article <tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03> "Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> writes:
| $ Now I need to copy
| $the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact, from
| $the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
| $believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up from
| $one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
| $process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
| $something else?
|
| I'm not claiming this is necessarily the best way, but I've done
| this before using rcmd - something like (run this on the source machine):
|
| find | cpio -o | rcmd destinationmachine "cd /wherever; cpio -i"
|
| You'll have to add appropriate arguments to the find and cpio
| and cpio commands; the man pages for those two have plenty of
| information.
|
| Doing it this way, you don't have any temporary files; the output
| of cpio on the source machine is fed across the network to the input
| of cpio on the destination machine.

Is this any better than using rdist (or rsync)?

--
JP

[Joe Burns]

I have never done that in SCO. Can you, or someone else, give me the
command to do so? I also need to ensure that all of the privileges and
ownerships remain the same.

Thank you,

Joe Burns

"Ronald J Marchand" <rojomar@covad.net> wrote in message
news:bfjah8$sse$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...

> "Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message
> news:tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03...

> > I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5

server

> > (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new

server

> > running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed and

> can

> > do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to

copy

> > the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact,

> from

> > the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> > believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up

from

> > one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> > process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> > something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for the
> > purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are "oldsystem"

> and

> > "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> > respectively.
> >
> > Thank you for any help you can give.
> >
> > Joe Burns, President
> > CompuGeek, L.L.C.

>
> If the two machines are on the same local network, why not mount the
> directory of the first machine to the second and just 'copy' at will?
>
> Ron
>
>
>

[Ronald J Marchand]

"Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message
news:YgmTa.25140$b03.24330@lakeread03...

> I have never done that in SCO. Can you, or someone else, give me the
> command to do so? I also need to ensure that all of the privileges and
> ownerships remain the same.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joe Burns
>

This group takes a "dim" view of top posting.

Start by reading "man nfs" and "man exports". This should get you started
on the yellow brick road. Then if you have a specific question, just ask
away.

Ron

> "Ronald J Marchand" <rojomar@covad.net> wrote in message
> news:bfjah8$sse$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...

> > "Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message
> > news:tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03...

> > > I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5

> server

> > > (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new

> server

> > > running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed

and

> > can

> > > do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to

> copy

> > > the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc

intact,

> > from

> > > the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> > > believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up

> from

> > > one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> > > process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> > > something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for

the

> > > purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are

"oldsystem"

> > and

> > > "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> > > respectively.
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help you can give.
> > >
> > > Joe Burns, President
> > > CompuGeek, L.L.C.

> >
> > If the two machines are on the same local network, why not mount the
> > directory of the first machine to the second and just 'copy' at will?
> >
> > Ron

[Tom Melvin]

Joe Burns made comment on Tue Jul 22 12:58:17 2003 :

> I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5 server
> (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new server
> running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed and can
> do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to copy
> the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact, from
> the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up from
> one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for the
> purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are "oldsystem" and
> "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> respectively.
>

One option that has not been mentioned yet:

OldSystem> tar cvf /tmp/blah /path/to/directory/to/copy
OldSystem> gzip /tmp/blah

Now use rcp, ftp, floppy, tape etc. to copy /tmp/blah.gz to NewSystem

NewSystem> gzip -d /tmp/blah.gz
NewSystem> tar xvf /tmp/blah

Yes you could use a couple of pipelines to reduce the number of
commands and temp files - but it is easy to follow this way :-)

Tom

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[Jose Tabisi]

Dear Joe

edit /etc/hosts in your new system and add the name and Ip address for
the old system. You should add the following line to the file:

oldsystem 192.168.1.2

edit (or create) the file /etc/exports in your old system. It should
mention the filesystems you want to export (make available) for the
new system: It should look something like this (I assume you have a /u
filesystem created, in case the name of it is different use the one
that corresponds)

/
/u

Once you did these, you should be able to run this command in your
newsystem:

mount -f NFS oldsystem:/ /mnt (this mounts the root filesystem)

or

mount -f NFS oldsystem:/u (this mounts the /u filesystem)

Then can use any ¨copy¨ command you like, I usually run

copy -mrov /mnt /u

This will copy the whole contents of your old /u filesystem to your
new /u filesystem. You can be more specific if you like. copy will
create directories for you if they do not exist previously.

Beware of file permissions if they already exist in your new
filesystem, they may not be rewriten depending on them.

Good luck

"Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message news:<tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03>...

> I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5 server
> (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new server
> running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed and can
> do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to copy
> the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact, from
> the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up from
> one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for the
> purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are "oldsystem" and
> "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> respectively.
>
> Thank you for any help you can give.
>
> Joe Burns, President
> CompuGeek, L.L.C.

[Joe Burns]

Thanks for the input. I was able to get the files using the following
steps:

1. Used "tar cvf" to create a backup file of the "/usr2" filesystem
2. Used "ftp" to copy my backup file to the other system
3. Setup all user IDs and groups EXACTLY like they did on the old system
on the new
4. Used "tar xvf" to extract the contents of my backup to the new server

All of the files were created where I wanted them with the security settings
the way I wanted.

I would like to thank everyone for their help.

Now I have two new problems. First, some files appear to be simply
reference pointers to other files in other locations - potientally to other
file systems. How do I identify these items and get them transferred fairly
easily - or do I have to go file by file. The second is an easy one that I
can't remenber. I need to have "ctree" start automatically at startup
("ctstart") and also shutdown gracefully (ctstop) when the system is
shutdown. I have looked in all of the files in "/etc/rc2.d" with no
success. Any ideas?

Thanks again:

Joe Burns

"Jose Tabisi" <josetabisi@tecnitower.com.ar> wrote in message
news:c8f61b71.0307251321.4f2c2a6d@posting.google.c om...

> Dear Joe
>
> edit /etc/hosts in your new system and add the name and Ip address for
> the old system. You should add the following line to the file:
>
> oldsystem 192.168.1.2
>
> edit (or create) the file /etc/exports in your old system. It should
> mention the filesystems you want to export (make available) for the
> new system: It should look something like this (I assume you have a /u
> filesystem created, in case the name of it is different use the one
> that corresponds)
>
> /
> /u
>
> Once you did these, you should be able to run this command in your
> newsystem:
>
> mount -f NFS oldsystem:/ /mnt (this mounts the root filesystem)
>
> or
>
> mount -f NFS oldsystem:/u (this mounts the /u filesystem)
>
> Then can use any ¨copy¨ command you like, I usually run
>
> copy -mrov /mnt /u
>
> This will copy the whole contents of your old /u filesystem to your
> new /u filesystem. You can be more specific if you like. copy will
> create directories for you if they do not exist previously.
>
> Beware of file permissions if they already exist in your new
> filesystem, they may not be rewriten depending on them.
>
> Good luck
>
> "Joe Burns" <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote in message

news:<tF9Ta.23684$b03.1019@lakeread03>...

> > I am in the process of converting a customer from an old SCO 5.0.5

server

> > (they have been running this hardware for about 10 years) to a new

server

> > running SCO 5.0.6. I have the new SCO Enterprise version installed and

can

> > do a "rlogin" across the network to the other system. Now I need to

copy

> > the entire contents, with the same file ownerships, groups, etc intact,

from

> > the old system to the new system. I can't remember how to do that. I
> > believe that I used to use UUCP between servers when I would dial-up

from

> > one city to the other (about 10 years ago), but I never had to do this
> > process across an Ethernet connection. Would I use "uucp" or "rcp" or
> > something else? What is the syntax of the command. Let's say, for the
> > purposes of this example, that the names of the systems are "oldsystem"

and

> > "newsystem" and the IP addresses are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
> > respectively.
> >
> > Thank you for any help you can give.
> >
> > Joe Burns, President
> > CompuGeek, L.L.C.

[John DuBois]

In article <HxkXa.12243$tf.6706@lakeread03>,
Joe Burns <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the input. I was able to get the files using the following
>steps:
>
>1. Used "tar cvf" to create a backup file of the "/usr2" filesystem
>2. Used "ftp" to copy my backup file to the other system
>3. Setup all user IDs and groups EXACTLY like they did on the old system
>on the new
>4. Used "tar xvf" to extract the contents of my backup to the new server
>
>All of the files were created where I wanted them with the security settings
>the way I wanted.
>
>I would like to thank everyone for their help.
>
>Now I have two new problems. First, some files appear to be simply
>reference pointers to other files in other locations - potientally to other
>file systems. How do I identify these items and get them transferred fairly
>easily - or do I have to go file by file.

Depending on your application, it may be appropriate to replace those pointers
with the contents of the files they point to. In that case you can use tar to
create a backup as you originally did, but also using the 'L' tar keyletter.
See the tar man page.

>The second is an easy one that I
>can't remenber. I need to have "ctree" start automatically at startup
>("ctstart") and also shutdown gracefully (ctstop) when the system is
>shutdown. I have looked in all of the files in "/etc/rc2.d" with no
>success. Any ideas?

Start it in /etc/rc2.d/P87USRDAEMON. Create a script in /etc/rc0.d (using one
of the existing scripts as a template) to stop it.

John
--
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[Joe Burns]

Thank you. I will look into the "L" switch - I must have missed that one.
Hopefully this will finish this task.

Joe Burns

"John DuBois" <spcecdt@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
news:3f2ebf39$0$1102$8eec23a@newsreader.tycho.net. ..

> In article <HxkXa.12243$tf.6706@lakeread03>,
> Joe Burns <joeburns@callageek.com> wrote:

> >Thanks for the input. I was able to get the files using the following
> >steps:
> >
> >1. Used "tar cvf" to create a backup file of the "/usr2" filesystem
> >2. Used "ftp" to copy my backup file to the other system
> >3. Setup all user IDs and groups EXACTLY like they did on the old

system

> >on the new
> >4. Used "tar xvf" to extract the contents of my backup to the new

server

> >
> >All of the files were created where I wanted them with the security

settings

> >the way I wanted.
> >
> >I would like to thank everyone for their help.
> >
> >Now I have two new problems. First, some files appear to be simply
> >reference pointers to other files in other locations - potientally to

other

> >file systems. How do I identify these items and get them transferred

fairly

> >easily - or do I have to go file by file.

>
> Depending on your application, it may be appropriate to replace those

pointers

> with the contents of the files they point to. In that case you can use

tar to

> create a backup as you originally did, but also using the 'L' tar

keyletter.

> See the tar man page.
>

> >The second is an easy one that I
> >can't remenber. I need to have "ctree" start automatically at startup
> >("ctstart") and also shutdown gracefully (ctstop) when the system is
> >shutdown. I have looked in all of the files in "/etc/rc2.d" with no
> >success. Any ideas?

>
> Start it in /etc/rc2.d/P87USRDAEMON. Create a script in /etc/rc0.d (using

one

> of the existing scripts as a template) to stop it.
>
> John
> --
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