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No, Netscape 4.7 doesn't support CSS very well. It usually requires lots of extra effort to keep things looking decent in that browser, unfortunately. This site has lots of good info on CSS and NN4: [url]http://www.mako4css.com[/url] Hope that helps. -- Ptty Ayers [url]http://www.WebDevBiz.com[/url] Professional Web Business Tools: Web Design Contract, Estimate Worksheet, and more -- "mdream" <webforumsusermacromedia.com> wrote in message news:bfrmgo$kkp$1forums.macromedia.com... > I have linked a style sheet to the text portion of my page. When I view in Netscape 4.7 it causes the table to fly out of the specs, the nav at the bottom is not even and ...

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    No, Netscape 4.7 doesn't support CSS very well. It usually requires lots of
    extra effort to keep things looking decent in that browser, unfortunately.

    This site has lots of good info on CSS and NN4: [url]http://www.mako4css.com[/url]

    Hope that helps.

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    "mdream" <webforumsusermacromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:bfrmgo$kkp$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > I have linked a style sheet to the text portion of my page. When I view in
    Netscape 4.7 it causes the table to fly out of the specs, the nav at the
    bottom is not even and the style is not applied. When I view in Netscape 6.1
    or IE 5 the page is fine. Can anyone tell me what is causing this? Does
    Netscape 4.7 not suport CSS? Hellllllllllp!!!!! I really need to know what
    to do here.
    >
    > Platform: Mac OS9.2 Dreamweaver 4
    >
    > Please go to: [url]www.marleypaddock.com/test_pages/html/print1a.html[/url]
    > If possible, please test in other browsers and let me know what you see.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    >

    P@tty *TWB* Guest

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    mdream wrote:
    > I have linked a style sheet to the text portion of my page. When I
    > view in Netscape 4.7 it causes the table to fly out of the specs, the
    > nav at the bottom is not even and the style is not applied. When I
    > view in Netscape 6.1 or IE 5 the page is fine. Can anyone tell me
    > what is causing this? Does Netscape 4.7 not suport CSS?
    > Hellllllllllp!!!!! I really need to know what to do here.
    N4.7 does support CSS, but has a lot of funny quirks. One of them is that it
    doesn't like class names that include the underscore. Also, you've got

    clip: rect( )

    in your stylesheet. Like that it's completely meaningless to any browser,
    but it may also be giving N4 a particularly hard time.

    Since you're using tables to create your page, you need to understand the
    particular difficulties N4 has with font inheritance:

    [url]http://www.mako4css.com/cssfont.htm[/url]

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    > Does Netscape 4.7 not suport CSS?

    No. It doesn't. It support JSS (Javascript Style Sheets) natively. Netscape
    had to create a CSS to JSS translator for NN4 which only allows certain
    aspects of CSS to work in it.

    The easiest solution is to just give NN4 users a basic, simply CSS file. The
    page won't look as pretty, but it will be readable:

    [url]http://www.thebackcountry.co.uk/pulsating_brain/archives/000050.html[/url]

    -Darrel


    darrel Guest

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    The easiest solution is to just give NN4 users a basic, simply CSS file. The
    page won't look as pretty, but it will be readable:


    How do I do this and how would the page look different?


    mdream webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    > How do I do this and how would the page look different?
    Did you click on the link in my above message?

    -Darrel


    darrel Guest

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    Ooop. now I have. I am assuming I am to replace "hideme.css" with the name of my stylesheet, correct?


    mdream webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    > Ooop. now I have. I am assuming I am to replace "hideme.css" with the name
    of my stylesheet, correct?

    yes. name and path.

    -Darrel


    darrel Guest

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    I went to the site and found the info. They instructed me to link two style sheets since
    NN4.7 does not regognize the import. I must be doing something wrong because it's
    not working. I'm new to CSS can you take a look at the attached code? Thanks.

    <html>
    <head>
    <title>MP Graphics, Inc.</title>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; cht=iso-8859-1">

    <link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/description.css" type="text/css">

    <link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/descriptionNN.css"
    type="text/css">
    <style type="text/css">
    import url (description.css) ; /*IE and NN6x styles*/
    </style>
    </head>
    <body text="#000000" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0"
    marginheight="0">
    <table width="760" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
    align="center">
    <tr>
    <td colspan="10" height="31" valign="top" bgcolor="#000000"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="760" height="31"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" height="23" colspan="10" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="760" height="23"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="161" colspan="6" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/mp_logo.gif" width="248" height="161"></td>

    <td rowspan="4" colspan="3" valign="top"><img
    src="../images/print_images/print1.jpg" width="488" height="283"></td>
    <td width="24" rowspan="4" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="24" height="283"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="36" valign="top" colspan="6" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/print_images/geo_head.gif" width="248" height="36"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="65" width="23" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="23" height="65"></td>
    <td valign="top" colspan="5" bgcolor="C7B98A"
    class="descriptionNN">Art direction
    and graphic design for Geo-Strata magazine. A four color monthly
    publication
    for the American Society of Civil Engineers.</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td valign="top" colspan="3" height="21" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="174" height="20"></td>
    <td width="14" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/previous.gif" width="14" height="20"></td>
    <td width="26" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/mouse.gif" width="26" height="20"></td>
    <td width="34" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/next-over.gif" width="34" height="20"></td>

    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="23" colspan="10" valign="top" bgcolor="C7B98A"><img
    src="../images/shared_images/spacer.gif" width="760" height="23"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="60" colspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#000000"><img
    src="../images/nav_images/print.gif" width="149" height="60"></td>
    <td valign="top" colspan="5" bgcolor="#000000"><img
    src="../images/nav_images/web.gif" width="112" height="60"></td>
    <td width="316" valign="top" bgcolor="#000000"><img
    src="../images/nav_images/identity.gif" width="316" height="60"></td>
    <td valign="top" colspan="2" bgcolor="#000000"><img
    src="../images/nav_images/contact.gif" width="183" height="60"></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td height="0"></td>
    <td width="126"></td>
    <td width="25"></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td width="13"></td>
    <td></td>
    <td width="159"></td>
    <td></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </body>
    </html>






    mdream webforumsuser@macromedia.com Guest

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    Mdream -- You have the style sheet "description.css" linked two different
    times - once with the <link> tag, and then again with the import directive.
    Delete this one:

    <link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/description.css" type="text/css">

    Now how is it working?

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    "mdream" <webforumsusermacromedia.com> wrote in message
    news:bfsajt$njd$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > I went to the site and found the info. They instructed me to link two
    style sheets since
    > NN4.7 does not regognize the import. I must be doing something wrong
    because it's
    > not working. I'm new to CSS can you take a look at the attached code?
    Thanks.



    P@tty *TWB* Guest

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    darrel wrote:
    >> One of them is that it
    >> doesn't like class names that include the underscore.
    >
    > Per spec, you shouldn't have underscores in any of your class names
    > for any of the browsers.
    Not true, unfortunately. Errata to the CSS specification in 2001 made
    underscores legal, as Eric Meyer explains here:

    [url]http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2001/css-underscores/[/url]

    Still, the best advice is: no underscores and no hyphens in class and id
    names.

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    I tried deleting the code that I had duplicated. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I was confused and thought I needed both. Anyway, in NN4.7 the same problems are happening as before. It's almost like the code is being ignored. Any suggestions? Thanks a bunch!



    mdream Guest

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    Could you post a URL to the page so we can see both HTML and style sheets?

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    "mdream" <com> wrote in message
    news:bg8o51$kmu$macromedia.com... 
    out. I guess I was confused and thought I needed both. Anyway, in NN4.7 the
    same problems are happening as before. It's almost like the code is being
    ignored. Any suggestions? Thanks a bunch! 


    P@tty Guest

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    Thank you for your continued effort to help me out with this problem.
    Please go to: www.marleypaddock.com/test_pages/html/print1.html
    to view the code. Thanks again.


    mdream Guest

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