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    Default D11 or D70

    Which to buy and why?


    map Guest

  2. #2

    Default Re: D11 or D70

    On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:19:00 GMT, "map" <net>
    wrote:
     

    D70, because it actually exists.

    ....or to put it another way...
    ....what is a D11?

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    Owamanga!
    Owamanga Guest

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    Owamanga <com> wrote in
    news:com:
     

    It is a high contrast developer from Kodak, similar to D19.


    /Roland
    Roland Guest

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    On 10 Jan 2005 22:16:43 GMT, Roland Karlsson
    <com> wrote:
     
    >
    >It is a high contrast developer from Kodak, similar to D19.
    >[/ref]

    I see. And in the in the context of a digital SLR newsgroup, can you
    guess at what he was asking?

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    Owamanga!
    Owamanga Guest

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    "Owamanga" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    > >
    > >It is a high contrast developer from Kodak, similar to D19.
    > >[/ref]
    >
    > I see. And in the in the context of a digital SLR newsgroup, can you
    > guess at what he was asking?
    >[/ref]
    Nope, if the original poster doesn't know, then we can't help...



    Darrell Guest

  6. #6

    Default Re: D11 or D70

    In article <oGzEd.2979$news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    net says... 

    Don't you mean D100 v D70? THAT is a common question and much has been posted
    regarding that choice. Do a Google.Groups search for that particular thread.
    NikonUSA's Web site has, or had, a chart for comparison purposes between these
    two cameras, and I think DPReview has one (seems it also has a Canon, or two
    included), as well. Look at the features of each, and decide which work best
    for you. You might want to actually handle the two bodies, as they are a bit
    different. I liked the size/weight/balance of the D100, but the features of
    the D70 - but that was a personal choice that might not be at all correct for
    YOU.

    I don't think you can go too wrong, if you chose the one that does the best
    job for your photography.

    Hunt

    Hunt Guest

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    "Darrell" <dev/null> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    > >
    > > I see. And in the in the context of a digital SLR newsgroup, can you
    > > guess at what he was asking?
    > >[/ref]
    > Nope, if the original poster doesn't know, then we can't help...
    >
    >[/ref]
    Some bloody Photographers...
    He's talking about Kodak developer.


    one Guest

  8. #8

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    On 2005-01-11, Hunt <com> wrote: 
    >
    > Don't you mean D100 v D70? THAT is a common question and much has been posted
    > regarding that choice. Do a Google.Groups search for that particular thread.
    > NikonUSA's Web site has, or had, a chart for comparison purposes between these
    > two cameras, and I think DPReview has one (seems it also has a Canon, or two
    > included), as well. Look at the features of each, and decide which work best
    > for you. You might want to actually handle the two bodies, as they are a bit
    > different. I liked the size/weight/balance of the D100, but the features of
    > the D70 - but that was a personal choice that might not be at all correct for
    > YOU.
    >
    > I don't think you can go too wrong, if you chose the one that does the best
    > job for your photography.
    >
    > Hunt[/ref]

    Maybe he means D2(X?).

    Or maybe he's got this weird idea about Kodak chemistry and Kodak
    sensors and Nikon somethingorother.. who knows?

    Will D.

    Will Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:11:57 +1000, "one million pics"
    <com> wrote:
     
    >> Nope, if the original poster doesn't know, then we can't help...
    >>
    >>[/ref]
    >Some bloody Photographers...
    >He's talking about Kodak developer.[/ref]

    Yes, as is quite clear from Roland's post that you even quoted in
    yours.

    But you avoided my question, Mr Brain, how does one answer his
    question in the context of a Digital SLR forum?

    ...or is it some sort of French joke?

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    Owamanga!
    Owamanga Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    Sorry, typo, my bad. I meant to ask about the difference between the D100
    and the D70. So is the D100 worth the extra $$$?
    "Owamanga" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    >
    > D70, because it actually exists.
    >
    > ...or to put it another way...
    > ...what is a D11?
    >
    > --
    > Owamanga![/ref]


    map Guest

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    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:27:31 GMT, "map" <net>
    wrote:
     

    My opinion: No..

    D70 has faster flash sync speeds. (1/500th vs 1/180th?)
    D70 has 3D 1005 segment color metering, the D100 has only 10 segments.
    D70 has 3fps compared to D100's 2.5fps.
    D70 uses the most advanced iTTL flash metering.
    D70 has max shutter at 1/8000th compared to D100 1/4000th.
    D70 has better color at ISO 800 and above, some say even at ISO 200.
    D70 is the newer model.
    D70 does vertical image rotation for the LCD preview.
    D70 has a higher resolution LCD monitor than the D100
    D70 is 105g lighter than the D100
    D70 is cheaper.

    D100 is physically more robust.
    D100 has bigger viewfinder.
    D100 has more pro connection ports (such as cable release)
    D100 has mirror lockup.
    D100 built-in-flash slightly more powerful than the D70.

    Both are 6.1Mpixel CCD.

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    Owamanga!
    Owamanga Guest

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    "Owamanga" <com> wrote in message
    news:com... 
    >
    > My opinion: No..
    >
    > D70 has faster flash sync speeds. (1/500th vs 1/180th?)
    > D70 has 3D 1005 segment color metering, the D100 has only 10 segments.
    > D70 has 3fps compared to D100's 2.5fps.
    > D70 uses the most advanced iTTL flash metering.
    > D70 has max shutter at 1/8000th compared to D100 1/4000th.
    > D70 has better color at ISO 800 and above, some say even at ISO 200.
    > D70 is the newer model.
    > D70 does vertical image rotation for the LCD preview.
    > D70 has a higher resolution LCD monitor than the D100
    > D70 is 105g lighter than the D100
    > D70 is cheaper.
    >
    > D100 is physically more robust.
    > D100 has bigger viewfinder.
    > D100 has more pro connection ports (such as cable release)
    > D100 has mirror lockup.
    > D100 built-in-flash slightly more powerful than the D70.
    >
    > Both are 6.1Mpixel CCD.
    >
    > --
    > Owamanga![/ref]
    Thanks, This makes the dicision pretty clear. One thing though, do you mean
    that the D70 does not have a cable {or wire} release? Would make it useless
    for long or telephoto shots? One again thanks for all the info. t



    map Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:27:31 GMT, "map" <net> wrote:
     

    If you've not come across it already:

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70flash.htm#vsD100

    is one man's take on the differences (plus D70 vs. others).

    Regards,
    Graham Holden (g-holden AT dircon DOT co DOT uk)
    --
    There are 10 types of people in the world;
    those that understand binary and those that don't.
    Graham Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:11:49 GMT, "map" <net>
    wrote:
     
    >>
    >> My opinion: No..
    >>
    >> D70 has faster flash sync speeds. (1/500th vs 1/180th?)
    >> D70 has 3D 1005 segment color metering, the D100 has only 10 segments.
    >> D70 has 3fps compared to D100's 2.5fps.
    >> D70 uses the most advanced iTTL flash metering.
    >> D70 has max shutter at 1/8000th compared to D100 1/4000th.
    >> D70 has better color at ISO 800 and above, some say even at ISO 200.
    >> D70 is the newer model.
    >> D70 does vertical image rotation for the LCD preview.
    >> D70 has a higher resolution LCD monitor than the D100
    >> D70 is 105g lighter than the D100
    >> D70 is cheaper.
    >>
    >> D100 is physically more robust.
    >> D100 has bigger viewfinder.
    >> D100 has more pro connection ports (such as cable release)
    >> D100 has mirror lockup.
    >> D100 built-in-flash slightly more powerful than the D70.
    >>
    >> Both are 6.1Mpixel CCD.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Owamanga![/ref]
    >
    >Thanks, This makes the dicision pretty clear. One thing though, do you mean
    >that the D70 does not have a cable {or wire} release? Would make it useless
    >for long or telephoto shots? One again thanks for all the info. t[/ref]

    That is correct, you need to use an infra-red wireless remote (ML-L3).
    Problem here, is they assumed you'd be in front of the camera. This
    could change your shooting style somewhat!

    Gun-style triggers and other weird contraptions that nature
    photographers like to use won't be simple to integrate with the D70.

    One day, someone might make an wire to IR converter that will do the
    job, but as far as I know, nothing exists yet.

    There is this thing, but it's expensive:
    http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1088425927.html

    I also found this thing, for PC wireless remote of the D70:
    http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=4192

    I guess a prism or such device could be fashioned to allow the IR to
    be shot from behind the camera - if mass produced from plastic this
    thing should only cost $1 and velcro'd on to the front of the camera,
    but again, it doesn't exist yet.

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    Owamanga!
    Owamanga Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:11:49 GMT, "map" <net> wrote:
     

    Correct -- the D70 doesn't have a cable release, it has an Infra Red
    sensor. You'll need to buy a small trigger device separately if you want
    to remotely fire the shutter (about £15 I believe, although I've heard
    they're hard to find).

    Although apparently you can also use a PalmPilot to do the job:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8334539


    Regards,
    Graham Holden (g-holden AT dircon DOT co DOT uk)
    --
    There are 10 types of people in the world;
    those that understand binary and those that don't.
    Graham Guest

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    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:48:51 +0000, Graham Holden <of.post> wrote:
     

    Not so hard to find.
    http://search.ebay.com/ml-l3_W0QQsojsZ1QQfromZR40QQsatitleZml-l3

    Plenty to choose from there.

    --
    Chris Pollard


    CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
    http://www.cginternet.net
    Christopher Guest

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    Default Re: D11 or D70

    Graham Holden wrote:
     
    >
    >
    > Correct -- the D70 doesn't have a cable release, it has an Infra Red
    > sensor. You'll need to buy a small trigger device separately if you want
    > to remotely fire the shutter (about £15 I believe, although I've heard
    > they're hard to find).
    >
    > Although apparently you can also use a PalmPilot to do the job:
    > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8334539[/ref]


    The $100 Capture software allows remote control from a laptop via USB
    cable & immediate viewing of the image on screen.
    paul Guest

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    Which make NO sense to me. They're selling ML-L3's for more than you can
    get them for from Wolf (Ritz) for example! I guess if they're hard to come
    by overseas...


    "Christopher Pollard" <net> wrote in message
     
    >
    > Not so hard to find.
    > http://search.ebay.com/ml-l3_W0QQsojsZ1QQfromZR40QQsatitleZml-l3
    >
    > Plenty to choose from there.
    >
    >[/ref]


    Seymore Guest

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    In article <com>,
    "Seymore" <com> wrote:
     

    I just bought one from B&H for $17.

    Merritt
    Merritt Guest

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    Exactly! But there were many bids on one from EBay that was up to ~$21.
    That's just stupid!
     


    Seymore Guest

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