Databinding client side. Still only option RDS?

[K.M.L.]

or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?

Seems RDS way is..

<OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
</Object>

<Table recordsource="#rds">
<TR>
<TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
<TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>


<Script VBsript>

Sub btn_OnClick()

RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
RDS.Refresh

End Sub

</SCRIPT>

Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records that
XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering if there was
a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP to get a disconnected
recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS recordset, but I can't find a
way to bind a disconnected recordset outside of the RDS object. Anyone know
of a 'non-obsolete' way to do it?

Many thanks,
Kevin

[Bob Barrows]

K.M.L. wrote:

> or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
>
> Seems RDS way is..
>
> <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
> </Object>
>
> <Table recordsource="#rds">
> <TR>
> <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
> <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
> </TR>
> </TABLE>
>
>
> <Script VBsript>
>
> Sub btn_OnClick()
>
> RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
> RDS.Refresh
>
> End Sub
>
> </SCRIPT>
>
> Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records
> that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering
> if there was a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP
> to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS
> recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a disconnected recordset
> outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of a 'non-obsolete' way to do
> it?
>
> Many thanks,
> Kevin

This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a client-side
coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in their names, or one
of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still an RDS group that sees a lot
of traffic.

People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still an
option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future version of
IE.

Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding is the
xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about it here:
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.asp[/url]

I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple pages. You
can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the bound controls as well).
Just convert the recordset to XML before returning it to the client, and
then use loadxml to refresh the data island with the responsetext (or the
responsexml.xml).

It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of records
involved, that you need to rethink your application so that the number of
records is limited. You don't want to be running into limitations in client
memory usage, etc.

HTH,
Bob Barrows
--
Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
"NO SPAM"

[K.M.L.]

Thanks, I'll give that a look.

In my defense, I don't want to give them all the records, but they want to
see it all. (mortgage purchasing company - Due Diligence application)

Thanks,
Kevin

"Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> K.M.L. wrote:

> > or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
> >
> > Seems RDS way is..
> >
> > <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
> > </Object>
> >
> > <Table recordsource="#rds">
> > <TR>
> > <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
> > <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
> > </TR>
> > </TABLE>
> >
> >
> > <Script VBsript>
> >
> > Sub btn_OnClick()
> >
> > RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
> > RDS.Refresh
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > </SCRIPT>
> >
> > Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records
> > that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering
> > if there was a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP
> > to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS
> > recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a disconnected recordset
> > outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of a 'non-obsolete' way to do
> > it?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Kevin

>
> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a client-side
> coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in their names, or

one

> of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still an RDS group that sees a lot
> of traffic.
>
> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still an
> option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future version of
> IE.
>
> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding is the
> xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about it here:
>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]
sp

>
> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple pages.

You

> can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the bound controls as

well).

> Just convert the recordset to XML before returning it to the client, and
> then use loadxml to refresh the data island with the responsetext (or the
> responsexml.xml).
>
> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of records
> involved, that you need to rethink your application so that the number of
> records is limited. You don't want to be running into limitations in

client

> memory usage, etc.
>
> HTH,
> Bob Barrows
> --
> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
> don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
> "NO SPAM"
>
>

[K.M.L.]

Do you use seperate page as DataIsland or embedded between XML tags on the
displayed client page?

Many thanks ,
Kevin

"Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> K.M.L. wrote:

> > or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
> >
> > Seems RDS way is..
> >
> > <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
> > </Object>
> >
> > <Table recordsource="#rds">
> > <TR>
> > <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
> > <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
> > </TR>
> > </TABLE>
> >
> >
> > <Script VBsript>
> >
> > Sub btn_OnClick()
> >
> > RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
> > RDS.Refresh
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > </SCRIPT>
> >
> > Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records
> > that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering
> > if there was a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP
> > to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS
> > recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a disconnected recordset
> > outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of a 'non-obsolete' way to do
> > it?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Kevin

>
> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a client-side
> coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in their names, or

one

> of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still an RDS group that sees a lot
> of traffic.
>
> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still an
> option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future version of
> IE.
>
> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding is the
> xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about it here:
>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]
sp

>
> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple pages.

You

> can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the bound controls as

well).

> Just convert the recordset to XML before returning it to the client, and
> then use loadxml to refresh the data island with the responsetext (or the
> responsexml.xml).
>
> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of records
> involved, that you need to rethink your application so that the number of
> records is limited. You don't want to be running into limitations in

client

> memory usage, etc.
>
> HTH,
> Bob Barrows
> --
> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
> don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
> "NO SPAM"
>
>

[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

I've done both. It depends on where the data is coming from.

Again, when using XMLHTTP to refresh data, I use loadXML to refresh the data
in the island with the data from the responseXML.

Bob Barrows

K.M.L. wrote:

> Do you use seperate page as DataIsland or embedded between XML tags
> on the displayed client page?
>
> Many thanks ,
> Kevin
>
> "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
> news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

>> K.M.L. wrote:

>>> or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
>>>
>>> Seems RDS way is..
>>>
>>> <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
>>> </Object>
>>>
>>> <Table recordsource="#rds">
>>> <TR>
>>> <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
>>> <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
>>> </TR>
>>> </TABLE>
>>>
>>>
>>> <Script VBsript>
>>>
>>> Sub btn_OnClick()
>>>
>>> RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
>>> RDS.Refresh
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> </SCRIPT>
>>>
>>> Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records
>>> that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering
>>> if there was a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP
>>> to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS
>>> recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a disconnected recordset
>>> outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of a 'non-obsolete' way to
>>> do it?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Kevin

>>
>> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a
>> client-side coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in
>> their names, or one of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still an
>> RDS group that sees a lot of traffic.
>>
>> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still
>> an option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future
>> version of IE.
>>
>> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding
>> is the xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about
>> it here:
>>

>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]

> sp

>>
>> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple
>> pages. You can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the bound
>> controls as well). Just convert the recordset to XML before
>> returning it to the client, and then use loadxml to refresh the data
>> island with the responsetext (or the responsexml.xml).
>>
>> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of records
>> involved, that you need to rethink your application so that the
>> number of records is limited. You don't want to be running into
>> limitations in client memory usage, etc.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Bob Barrows
>> --
>> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
>> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so
>> I don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove
>> the "NO SPAM"

--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.

[K.M.L.]

Thanks. I rarely ask for help beyond that which is given. I usually get in
and do my own leg work, but I'm confused on this.

oHTTP=GetObject ("", "MSXML.XMLHTTP")
oHTTP.Send [url]http://server/xyz.asp[/url]

now where to I send my oHTTP.responseXML? Between some Div tags?

or

oDOMDocument=GetObject("","MSXML.DOMDocument40")
Even if I do oDOMDocument.loadXML(oHTTP.responseXML), how do I bind to the
oDOMDocument ?

Many thanks again,
Kevin

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:OKeUUK6KEHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> I've done both. It depends on where the data is coming from.
>
> Again, when using XMLHTTP to refresh data, I use loadXML to refresh the

data

> in the island with the data from the responseXML.
>
> Bob Barrows
>
> K.M.L. wrote:

> > Do you use seperate page as DataIsland or embedded between XML tags
> > on the displayed client page?
> >
> > Many thanks ,
> > Kevin
> >
> > "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
> > news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> >> K.M.L. wrote:
> >>> or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
> >>>
> >>> Seems RDS way is..
> >>>
> >>> <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
> >>> </Object>
> >>>
> >>> <Table recordsource="#rds">
> >>> <TR>
> >>> <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
> >>> <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
> >>> </TR>
> >>> </TABLE>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <Script VBsript>
> >>>
> >>> Sub btn_OnClick()
> >>>
> >>> RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
> >>> RDS.Refresh
> >>>
> >>> End Sub
> >>>
> >>> </SCRIPT>
> >>>
> >>> Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of records
> >>> that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was just wondering
> >>> if there was a different way? I save using DOM. I can use XMLHTTP
> >>> to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save both it and an RDS
> >>> recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a disconnected recordset
> >>> outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of a 'non-obsolete' way to
> >>> do it?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> Kevin
> >>
> >> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a
> >> client-side coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in
> >> their names, or one of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still an
> >> RDS group that sees a lot of traffic.
> >>
> >> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still
> >> an option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future
> >> version of IE.
> >>
> >> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding
> >> is the xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about
> >> it here:
> >>

> >

>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]

> > sp

> >>
> >> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple
> >> pages. You can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the bound
> >> controls as well). Just convert the recordset to XML before
> >> returning it to the client, and then use loadxml to refresh the data
> >> island with the responsetext (or the responsexml.xml).
> >>
> >> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of records
> >> involved, that you need to rethink your application so that the
> >> number of records is limited. You don't want to be running into
> >> limitations in client memory usage, etc.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Bob Barrows
> >> --
> >> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> >> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so
> >> I don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove
> >> the "NO SPAM"

>
> --
> Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
> Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
> header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
> quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.
>
>

[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

You would have a data island defined as follows:

<XML id-xmlData>
</XML>

In your scrip, you would do this:

xmlData.loadXML oHTTP.responseXML.xml

HTH,
Bob Barrows


K.M.L. wrote:

> Thanks. I rarely ask for help beyond that which is given. I usually
> get in and do my own leg work, but I'm confused on this.
>
> oHTTP=GetObject ("", "MSXML.XMLHTTP")
> oHTTP.Send [url]http://server/xyz.asp[/url]
>
> now where to I send my oHTTP.responseXML? Between some Div tags?
>
> or
>
> oDOMDocument=GetObject("","MSXML.DOMDocument40")
> Even if I do oDOMDocument.loadXML(oHTTP.responseXML), how do I bind
> to the oDOMDocument ?
>
> Many thanks again,
> Kevin
>
> "Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
> news:OKeUUK6KEHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

>> I've done both. It depends on where the data is coming from.
>>
>> Again, when using XMLHTTP to refresh data, I use loadXML to refresh
>> the data in the island with the data from the responseXML.
>>
>> Bob Barrows
>>
>> K.M.L. wrote:

>>> Do you use seperate page as DataIsland or embedded between XML tags
>>> on the displayed client page?
>>>
>>> Many thanks ,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
>>> news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> K.M.L. wrote:
>>>>> or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems RDS way is..
>>>>>
>>>>> <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
>>>>> </Object>
>>>>>
>>>>> <Table recordsource="#rds">
>>>>> <TR>
>>>>> <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
>>>>> <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
>>>>> </TR>
>>>>> </TABLE>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <Script VBsript>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sub btn_OnClick()
>>>>>
>>>>> RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
>>>>> RDS.Refresh
>>>>>
>>>>> End Sub
>>>>>
>>>>> </SCRIPT>
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of
>>>>> records that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was
>>>>> just wondering if there was a different way? I save using DOM.
>>>>> I can use XMLHTTP to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save
>>>>> both it and an RDS recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a
>>>>> disconnected recordset outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of
>>>>> a 'non-obsolete' way to
>>>>> do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a
>>>> client-side coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in
>>>> their names, or one of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still
>>>> an RDS group that sees a lot of traffic.
>>>>
>>>> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still
>>>> an option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future
>>>> version of IE.
>>>>
>>>> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding
>>>> is the xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about
>>>> it here:
>>>>
>>>

>>

>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]

>>> sp
>>>>
>>>> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple
>>>> pages. You can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the
>>>> bound controls as well). Just convert the recordset to XML before
>>>> returning it to the client, and then use loadxml to refresh the
>>>> data island with the responsetext (or the responsexml.xml).
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of
>>>> records involved, that you need to rethink your application so
>>>> that the
>>>> number of records is limited. You don't want to be running into
>>>> limitations in client memory usage, etc.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Bob Barrows
>>>> --
>>>> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap
>>>> so
>>>> I don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then
>>>> remove the "NO SPAM"

>>
>> --
>> Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
>> Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
>> header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get
>> a quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.

--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.

[K.M.L.]

Okay, not working for me:

Q1..did you mean <XML id=xmlData> rather than <XML id-xmlData>?
Q2..is loadXML a method of a tag? No intellisense on xmlData to suggest it
to this newbie.
Q3..How do I reference XML tags to get data back into a DOM object as
streamed recordset? document.all("xmlData").XMLDocument?

My code:

'******************* Client ***********
'**********ttEdit.asp **********
<%@ Language=VBScript %>
<HTML>
<META name=VI60_defaultClientScript content=VBScript>
<BODY>

<SCRIPT Language="VBScript">
Sub btn_OnCLick()

Dim oHTTP

Set oHTTP=GetObject("","MSXML2.XMLHTTP")

oHTTP.Open "GET","http://" + window.location.host +
"/PreBoarding/_Modules/funcIndicativeBid.asp?Action=IBList&DueDilNo=2001" ,fa
lse

oHTTP.Send

msgbox oHTTP.responseText 'returns it

xmlData.loadXML oHTTP.responseXML

msgbox "Finished"

Set oHTTP=Nothing

End Sub

</SCRIPT>

<XML id=xmlData>
</XML>
<TABLE id="tabBooks" border=1 datasrc="#xmlData" Datapagesize="25">
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH>LoanID</TH>
<TH>Zip Code </TH>
</TR>
</THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR bgcolor=LightGrey>
<TD><DIV datafld="LoanID"></DIV></TD>
<TD><INPUT type=text datafld="PropZip"></TD>
</TR>
</TBODY>
</TABLE>
<DIV id=msg></DIV>
<BR>
<INPUT TYPE=BUTTON name=btn Value="Get">

</BODY>
</HTML>

'**********Server Code/Returns XML ***********
'**********funcIndicativeBid.asp ************
<%

Set cn=Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Set rsBid=server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
Set strmXML=Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Stream")

cn.ConnectionString=strCN
cn.Open

rsBid.LockType = 4
rsBid.CursorLocation = 3
rsBid.ActiveConnection=cn

strSQL="SELECT IB.*" & _
" FROM pbdIndicativeBid IB" & _
" Where IB.BidNumber=" & Request.QueryString("DueDilNo") & " ORDER BY
IB.SeqNo"

rsBid.Open strSQL

Set rsBid.ActiveConnection=nothing
cn.Close
set cn = nothing

rsBid.Save strmXML, adPersistXML

Response.ContentType = "text/xml"
'Response.Expires = 0
'Response.Buffer = False
Response.Write ("<?xml version='1.0'?>" + vbCrLf)
Response.Write strmXML.ReadText

'Clean Up
%>

Above works with RDS, but not <XML id=xmlData><XML> xmlData.loadXML
oHttp.responseXML

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:ulqWXT7KEHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

> You would have a data island defined as follows:
>
> <XML id-xmlData>
> </XML>
>
> In your scrip, you would do this:
>
> xmlData.loadXML oHTTP.responseXML.xml
>
> HTH,
> Bob Barrows
>
>
> K.M.L. wrote:

> > Thanks. I rarely ask for help beyond that which is given. I usually
> > get in and do my own leg work, but I'm confused on this.
> >
> > oHTTP=GetObject ("", "MSXML.XMLHTTP")
> > oHTTP.Send [url]http://server/xyz.asp[/url]
> >
> > now where to I send my oHTTP.responseXML? Between some Div tags?
> >
> > or
> >
> > oDOMDocument=GetObject("","MSXML.DOMDocument40")
> > Even if I do oDOMDocument.loadXML(oHTTP.responseXML), how do I bind
> > to the oDOMDocument ?
> >
> > Many thanks again,
> > Kevin
> >
> > "Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
> > news:OKeUUK6KEHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> >> I've done both. It depends on where the data is coming from.
> >>
> >> Again, when using XMLHTTP to refresh data, I use loadXML to refresh
> >> the data in the island with the data from the responseXML.
> >>
> >> Bob Barrows
> >>
> >> K.M.L. wrote:
> >>> Do you use seperate page as DataIsland or embedded between XML tags
> >>> on the displayed client page?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks ,
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>> "Bob Barrows" <reb01501@NOyahoo.SPAMcom> wrote in message
> >>> news:ufuujw3KEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>>> K.M.L. wrote:
> >>>>> or since RDS is considered obsolete by MSFT, is there another way?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seems RDS way is..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <OBJECT id=rds classid='xxxx'>
> >>>>> </Object>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <Table recordsource="#rds">
> >>>>> <TR>
> >>>>> <TD><span datafld="id"></span></TD>
> >>>>> <TD><input type=text datafld="FirstName"></TD>
> >>>>> </TR>
> >>>>> </TABLE>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <Script VBsript>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sub btn_OnClick()
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RDS.url="server/xyz.asp" 'This is response.write XML
> >>>>> RDS.Refresh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> End Sub
> >>>>>
> >>>>> </SCRIPT>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Problem is I seem to have reached a size limit in numbers of
> >>>>> records that XML .ASP page can have and work with RDS. I was
> >>>>> just wondering if there was a different way? I save using DOM.
> >>>>> I can use XMLHTTP to get a disconnected recordset and DOM to save
> >>>>> both it and an RDS recordset, but I can't find a way to bind a
> >>>>> disconnected recordset outside of the RDS object. Anyone know of
> >>>>> a 'non-obsolete' way to
> >>>>> do it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>> Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>> This has nothing to do with ASP so you should follow up in a
> >>>> client-side coding newsgroup. Try one of the groups with "dhtml" in
> >>>> their names, or one of the scripting groups. IIRC, there is still
> >>>> an RDS group that sees a lot of traffic.
> >>>>
> >>>> People still use RDS despite its being deprecated, so that is still
> >>>> an option despite the possibility that it may not work in a future
> >>>> version of IE.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another DSO (data source object) that can be used for data binding
> >>>> is the xml data island (there are other DSO's). You can read about
> >>>> it here:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

> >

>

[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/databind/data_binding_node_entry.a[/url]

> >>> sp
> >>>>
> >>>> I have successfully used this technique (data islands) on simple
> >>>> pages. You can use XMLHTTP to refresh the data island (and the
> >>>> bound controls as well). Just convert the recordset to XML before
> >>>> returning it to the client, and then use loadxml to refresh the
> >>>> data island with the responsetext (or the responsexml.xml).
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems to me if you are having an issue with the number of
> >>>> records involved, that you need to rethink your application so
> >>>> that the
> >>>> number of records is limited. You don't want to be running into
> >>>> limitations in client memory usage, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>> Bob Barrows
> >>>> --
> >>>> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap
> >>>> so
> >>>> I don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then
> >>>> remove the "NO SPAM"
> >>
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>

[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

K.M.L. wrote:

> Okay, not working for me:
>
> Q1..did you mean <XML id=xmlData> rather than <XML id-xmlData>?

Yes

> Q2..is loadXML a method of a tag? No intellisense on xmlData to
> suggest it to this newbie.

No intellisense is available for it. loadXML is a method of the XML
DOMDocument. You treat the data island as if it was a DOMDocument (which it
is)
[url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/xmlsdk/htm/xml_obj_ixmldomdocument_692s.asp[/url]

> Q3..How do I reference XML tags to get data back into a DOM object as
> streamed recordset? document.all("xmlData").XMLDocument?

I've never tried using a streamed recordset for databinding. I've always
converted my recordset to a new XML document by using the DOM methods
(CreateElement, etc). Moreover, you are attempting to bind a table to the
DSO. I have found that certain events don't work correctly when table
elements are bound to attributes in the xml document. If you look at the xml
for your streamed recordset, you will see that the data is contained in
attributes rather than elements.

Given this data island:
<XML ID="xml1">
<topic-info>
<page-type>reference</page-type>
</topic-info>
<topic-info>
<page-type>reference2</page-type>
</topic-info>
</XML>

You would use this:
<table datasrc="#xml1">
<tr><td><INPUT type="text" datafld="page-type"></td></tr>
</table>


Please follow up in a more appropriate newsgroup. This has nothing to do
with ASP, unless you wish to discuss the server-side code, of course.

Bob Barrows
--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
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