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"Jon" <jaschwartzarb.com> wrote in message news:7be67b1.0307021227.42487ed4posting.google.co m... > Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for > Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2? > > Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released? > > Thanks, > Jon There is only one DB2 Release for Linux (for a given release of DB2). However, DB2 is currently not compatible with RH9, although there are work-around (definitely not recommended if you have multi-processor system). There are apparently some problems with the POSIX libraries in Linux 9. No official word that I have heard as to when it will ...

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    "Jon" <jaschwartzarb.com> wrote in message
    news:7be67b1.0307021227.42487ed4posting.google.co m...
    > Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for
    > Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2?
    >
    > Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Jon
    There is only one DB2 Release for Linux (for a given release of DB2).
    However, DB2 is currently not compatible with RH9, although there are
    work-around (definitely not recommended if you have multi-processor system).
    There are apparently some problems with the POSIX libraries in Linux 9. No
    official word that I have heard as to when it will be resolved or how it
    will be resolved. I understand that Oracle has similar problems.

    I am fairly sure that DB2 version 7 (and obviously version 8) are both
    supported on RH8, but not sure about earlier releases of DB2.


    Mark A Guest

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    DB2 v8 was released last November. It runs on RH 8.0.

    Jon wrote:
    > Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for
    > Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2?
    >
    > Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Jon
    Blair Adamache Guest

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    And the latest fixpack level is fixpack 2 (last time I checked).

    I wrote an article recently, published in the latest IDUG Solutions
    Journal, about some non-standard install techniques for DB2 V8.

    These were with two aims -

    1) to avoid the graphical install
    2) to install on non-RPM systems

    It should be possible to download the article from [url]http://www.idug.org[/url] but
    if not and you'd like a copy I can email it to you.

    I'm happily running DB2 V8 on my Debian system here.

    Phil

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:44:26 -0400, Blair Adamache wrote:
    > DB2 v8 was released last November. It runs on RH 8.0.
    >
    > Jon wrote:
    >
    >> Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for
    >> Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2?
    >>
    >> Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Jon
    Philip Nelson Guest

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    "Philip Nelson" <teamdbascotdb.com> wrote in message
    news:pan.2003.07.02.21.26.57.833912scotdb.com...
    > And the latest fixpack level is fixpack 2 (last time I checked).
    >
    > I wrote an article recently, published in the latest IDUG Solutions
    > Journal, about some non-standard install techniques for DB2 V8.
    >
    > These were with two aims -
    >
    > 1) to avoid the graphical install
    > 2) to install on non-RPM systems
    >
    > It should be possible to download the article from [url]http://www.idug.org[/url] but
    > if not and you'd like a copy I can email it to you.
    >
    > I'm happily running DB2 V8 on my Debian system here.
    >
    > Phil
    >
    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:44:26 -0400, Blair Adamache wrote:
    >
    > > DB2 v8 was released last November. It runs on RH 8.0.
    > >
    > > Jon wrote:
    > >
    > >> Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for
    > >> Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2?
    > >>
    > >> Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks,
    > >> Jon
    >
    I just looked at the site but did not see the exact article you mentioned.
    Can you provide an exact link?

    I have previously posted detailed instructions for installing DB2 V8 on RH9
    with graphical interface. Search the newsgroup archives on Google.com
    (newsgroups).


    Mark A Guest

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    Folks,

    here an update about RH9 (Suse 8.2 is fine - not sure where the notion is
    coming from about not running).

    Besides the obviously install errors through the thread libraries we found
    soem other strange behaviors in RH9. We think we will have a full workaround
    with 8.1.4 available which is due early next quarter (no commitment
    here...). We are testing right now. All the work arounds I have seen posted
    are great but they do not change the basic issues and should only be used if
    no other choice is there available - Further I strongly recommend then the
    urgent update to 8.1.4 when available.

    About Debian: I know some people see this as close to religion to use Woody
    et al or one of the commercial distros... but: we can not support Debian or
    non distro based LInux because of the support issue for the underlaying
    components. I know soem people will be unhappy with this but we had too many
    cases were things did nto work that well...

    Boris
    IBM Toronto Lab


    "Mark A" <maswitchboard.net> wrote in message
    news:xlIMa.88$wc.39785news.uswest.net...
    > "Philip Nelson" <teamdbascotdb.com> wrote in message
    > news:pan.2003.07.02.21.26.57.833912scotdb.com...
    > > And the latest fixpack level is fixpack 2 (last time I checked).
    > >
    > > I wrote an article recently, published in the latest IDUG Solutions
    > > Journal, about some non-standard install techniques for DB2 V8.
    > >
    > > These were with two aims -
    > >
    > > 1) to avoid the graphical install
    > > 2) to install on non-RPM systems
    > >
    > > It should be possible to download the article from [url]http://www.idug.org[/url]
    but
    > > if not and you'd like a copy I can email it to you.
    > >
    > > I'm happily running DB2 V8 on my Debian system here.
    > >
    > > Phil
    > >
    > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:44:26 -0400, Blair Adamache wrote:
    > >
    > > > DB2 v8 was released last November. It runs on RH 8.0.
    > > >
    > > > Jon wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Anyone know when IBM is planning on releasing a version of DB2 for
    > > >> Redhat 9.0 or Suse 8.2?
    > > >>
    > > >> Approximately, when was Db2 for RH 8.0 released?
    > > >>
    > > >> Thanks,
    > > >> Jon
    > >
    > I just looked at the site but did not see the exact article you mentioned.
    > Can you provide an exact link?
    >
    > I have previously posted detailed instructions for installing DB2 V8 on
    RH9
    > with graphical interface. Search the newsgroup archives on Google.com
    > (newsgroups).
    >
    >

    nntp Guest

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    > Folks,
    >
    > here an update about RH9 (Suse 8.2 is fine - not sure where the notion is
    > coming from about not running).
    >
    > Besides the obviously install errors through the thread libraries we found
    > soem other strange behaviors in RH9. We think we will have a full
    workaround
    > with 8.1.4 available which is due early next quarter (no commitment
    > here...). We are testing right now. All the work arounds I have seen
    posted
    > are great but they do not change the basic issues and should only be used
    if
    > no other choice is there available - Further I strongly recommend then the
    > urgent update to 8.1.4 when available.
    >
    > About Debian: I know some people see this as close to religion to use
    Woody
    > et al or one of the commercial distros... but: we can not support Debian
    or
    > non distro based LInux because of the support issue for the underlaying
    > components. I know soem people will be unhappy with this but we had too
    many
    > cases were things did nto work that well...
    >
    > Boris
    > IBM Toronto Lab
    >
    Will there be a Fixpak 3 in the interim (8.1.3)?


    Mark A Guest

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    On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Mark A wrote:
    > Will there be a Fixpak 3 in the interim (8.1.3)?
    I don't speak for IBM, but their announced direction for fixpacks in V8 is
    that odd-numbered fixpacks will contain bug fixes only, and even-numbered
    fixpacks will contain new functionality (and fixes). So yes, I would
    expect a FP3 before FP4. ;^)








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    Ian D. Bjorhovde Guest

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    We are shipping fixpak 3 (8.1.3) this summer, before the fixpak
    mentioned by Boris (8.1.4). So, the support mentioned by Boris is at
    least two fixpaks away.

    Mark A wrote:
    >>Folks,
    >>
    >>here an update about RH9 (Suse 8.2 is fine - not sure where the notion is
    >>coming from about not running).
    >>
    >>Besides the obviously install errors through the thread libraries we found
    >>soem other strange behaviors in RH9. We think we will have a full
    >
    > workaround
    >
    >>with 8.1.4 available which is due early next quarter (no commitment
    >>here...). We are testing right now. All the work arounds I have seen
    >
    > posted
    >
    >>are great but they do not change the basic issues and should only be used
    >
    > if
    >
    >>no other choice is there available - Further I strongly recommend then the
    >>urgent update to 8.1.4 when available.
    >>
    >>About Debian: I know some people see this as close to religion to use
    >
    > Woody
    >
    >>et al or one of the commercial distros... but: we can not support Debian
    >
    > or
    >
    >>non distro based LInux because of the support issue for the underlaying
    >>components. I know soem people will be unhappy with this but we had too
    >
    > many
    >
    >>cases were things did nto work that well...
    >>
    >>Boris
    >>IBM Toronto Lab
    >>
    >
    > Will there be a Fixpak 3 in the interim (8.1.3)?
    >
    >
    Blair Adamache Guest

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    > "Mark A" <maswitchboard.net> writes:
    > > There is only one DB2 Release for Linux (for a given release of DB2).
    > > However, DB2 is currently not compatible with RH9, although there are
    > > work-around (definitely not recommended if you have multi-processor
    system).
    > > There are apparently some problems with the POSIX libraries in Linux 9.
    No
    > > official word that I have heard as to when it will be resolved or how it
    > > will be resolved. I understand that Oracle has similar problems.
    >
    > There are no problems with NPTL on RHL9.... unless you consider
    > actually being POSIX compliant, unlike the previous glibc thread
    > libraries, to be a problem. It will be resolved when DB2 is changed
    > to work with the Native POSIX Thread Library. Go to google.com, type
    > in "NPTL", click on "I'm Feeling Lucky", and read the white paper.
    >
    > --
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    > Ronald Cole <ronaldforte-intl.com> Phone: (760) 499-9142
    > President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
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    I meant that there are compatibility problems with DB2 using the POSIX
    libraries. I was not trying to attribute blame to POSIX as to why the DB2
    does not work properly with RH9. After all, this is a DB2 newsgroup, so it
    was obvious that I was talking about a compatibility problem.

    However, it would have been nice it RH (and others) had given software
    vendors (including IBM and Oracle) more time to make the changes to become
    compliant.


    Mark A Guest

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    On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:42:21 -0600, Mark A wrote:
    > I just looked at the site but did not see the exact article you mentioned.
    > Can you provide an exact link?
    Mark,

    The reason you couldn't find it is because it isn't there (yet). They
    obviously don't post the latest magazine to the web instantly.

    If you want a copy now, email at the address on [url]http://www.scotdb.com[/url] and
    I'll send you one.

    Phil

    PS : I agree with your thoughts on Debian and the like. I switched to
    Debian on my laptop after experiencing various problems with the
    "commercials" and am very happy with it. Only problem is probably that
    there is the (sometimes overenthusiastic) anti-commercialism of many
    senior Debianites.

    I think that you idea of supporting Debian as a means of keeping the
    commercials on their toes is a good idea.


    Philip Nelson Guest

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    "Steven N. Hirsch" <shirschadelphia.net> writes:
    > I think you're missing their (Linux distro vendors) point! They don't
    > _want_ Oracle, DB2, etc. to work under the non-commercial
    > offerings. RedHat and Suse are clearly trying to push end-users into
    > their expensive 24x7 supported "enterprise" products. By churning the
    > freely-available distributions frequently and obsoleting them on short
    > schedules, the hope is that Oracle, et al will throw up their hands
    > and target only the RHAS class of product.
    Give me a break! PThreads were fixed to be POSIX compliant in glibc.
    That glibc will make it into every disto soon, even Red Hat's
    Enterprise offerings... Red Hat just put it in their product first.

    --
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    Ronald Cole Guest

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    Ronald Cole wrote:
    > "Steven N. Hirsch" <shirschadelphia.net> writes:
    >
    >>I think you're missing their (Linux distro vendors) point! They don't
    >>_want_ Oracle, DB2, etc. to work under the non-commercial
    >>offerings. RedHat and Suse are clearly trying to push end-users into
    >>their expensive 24x7 supported "enterprise" products. By churning the
    >>freely-available distributions frequently and obsoleting them on short
    >>schedules, the hope is that Oracle, et al will throw up their hands
    >>and target only the RHAS class of product.
    >
    >
    > Give me a break! PThreads were fixed to be POSIX compliant in glibc.
    > That glibc will make it into every disto soon, even Red Hat's
    > Enterprise offerings... Red Hat just put it in their product first.
    >
    I stand by my opinion regarding RedHat's marketing strategy. If they
    felt it was of importance to have DB2 working "out of the box" on RH9,
    there were ample opportunities to engage the developers during Beta test
    of the distro.

    Steven N. Hirsch Guest

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    Well, RH9 is end of life in 9 months, so maybe it's a moot point anyway:

    [url]http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/[/url]

    Steven N. Hirsch wrote:
    > Ronald Cole wrote:
    >
    >> "Steven N. Hirsch" <shirschadelphia.net> writes:
    >>
    >>> I think you're missing their (Linux distro vendors) point! They don't
    >>> _want_ Oracle, DB2, etc. to work under the non-commercial
    >>> offerings. RedHat and Suse are clearly trying to push end-users into
    >>> their expensive 24x7 supported "enterprise" products. By churning the
    >>> freely-available distributions frequently and obsoleting them on short
    >>> schedules, the hope is that Oracle, et al will throw up their hands
    >>> and target only the RHAS class of product.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Give me a break! PThreads were fixed to be POSIX compliant in glibc.
    >> That glibc will make it into every disto soon, even Red Hat's
    >> Enterprise offerings... Red Hat just put it in their product first.
    >>
    >
    > I stand by my opinion regarding RedHat's marketing strategy. If they
    > felt it was of importance to have DB2 working "out of the box" on RH9,
    > there were ample opportunities to engage the developers during Beta test
    > of the distro.
    >
    Blair Adamache Guest

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    Blair Adamache <badamache2muchspam.> writes:
    > Well, RH9 is end of life in 9 months, so maybe it's a moot point anyway:
    > [url]http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/[/url]
    No, because NPTL is now a part of glibc-2.3.2 and *all* distros will
    eventually have it. IBM apparently needs to devote some porting
    resources to following glibc features. A lot of IBM products on Linux
    aren't correctly ported to glibc. For example, Linux ports of IBM
    Informix still use "extern int errno;" even though the glibc docs have
    clearly stated (since about forever) that "#include <errno.h>" is the
    correct way to define it. IBM has also called internal glibc
    functions and been bitten when they changed. IBM has no one to blame
    but themselves for these porting gaffes.

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