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[Puzzled]

I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks

[David H. Lipman]

[url]http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusc2100uz/[/url]

No it is a Point & Shoot with Zoom.

Dave



"Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:30se28F32osinU1@uni-berlin.de...
| I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks
|
|

[sid derra]

"Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:30se28F32osinU1@uni-berlin.de...

> I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks

no, but i had one and miss it dearly. i do own a d70 now and it obviously is
another class of cameras (it IS a DSLR), but every now and then the point &
shoot capabilities of the UZ would still come in handy. also it produced
superb images for a 2mp cam...

[Puzzled]

Then I guess I just don't understand what the difference is. This camera
has a full set of manual controls and a range of aperture and shutter
speeds. How is this a point-and-shoot and how does an slr differ? Thank
you.

Sorry for posting this as a new message but I am unable to respond to
messages in this group. "cannot be resolved" issue which, so far, cannot
be resolved :-(

>

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

>> [url]http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusc2100uz/[/url]
>> No it is a Point & Shoot with Zoom.

>
> "Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks

[Happy Traveler]

SLR stands for 'Single Lens Reflex'. A mirror in front of the sensor (or the
film in the case of a film camera) reflects the image to the viewer and
flips out of the way when the shutter is pressed. The name does not
specifically say it, but all SLRs have interchangeable lenses as well.


"Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:30si26F33g8a7U1@uni-berlin.de...

> Then I guess I just don't understand what the difference is. This camera
> has a full set of manual controls and a range of aperture and shutter
> speeds. How is this a point-and-shoot and how does an slr differ? Thank
> you.

[Dave Fouchey]

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:39:26 -0800, "Happy Traveler"
<happy_traveler@abc.net> wrote:

>SLR stands for 'Single Lens Reflex'. A mirror in front of the sensor (or the
>film in the case of a film camera) reflects the image to the viewer and
>flips out of the way when the shutter is pressed. The name does not
>specifically say it, but all SLRs have interchangeable lenses as well.
>
>
>"Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:30si26F33g8a7U1@uni-berlin.de...

>> Then I guess I just don't understand what the difference is. This camera
>> has a full set of manual controls and a range of aperture and shutter
>> speeds. How is this a point-and-shoot and how does an slr differ? Thank
>> you.

>

Sort of, there are at least two Digital SLR Cameras out there from
Olympus the E-10 and E-20 neither of which had interchangeable lenses.
But in general you are correct most SLR's are interchangeable lens
Cameras.

Cheers!

Dave

[David H. Lipman]

For me, interchangeable lenses were the reason for getting a dSLR. I'll *never* go back to
a Point & Shoot.

Dave L.



"Dave Fouchey" <dfouchey@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ccfiq01ek6mkdq7pb919uhrudljl7i2bnp@4ax.com...

| Sort of, there are at least two Digital SLR Cameras out there from
| Olympus the E-10 and E-20 neither of which had interchangeable lenses.
| But in general you are correct most SLR's are interchangeable lens
| Cameras.
|
| Cheers!
|
| Dave

[Dave Fouchey]

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 03:00:10 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>For me, interchangeable lenses were the reason for getting a dSLR. I'll *never* go back to
>a Point & Shoot.
>
>Dave L.

Preaching to the Choir there Dave though I must admit I keep a Canon
A75 close at hand for quick grab shots I spend most of my time with my
Digital Rebel the exception is film for Infra Red since I am not QUITE
gutsy enough to modify a dSLR by removing the blocking filter....

Dave F.

>
>"Dave Fouchey" <dfouchey@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:ccfiq01ek6mkdq7pb919uhrudljl7i2bnp@4ax.com.. .
>
>| Sort of, there are at least two Digital SLR Cameras out there from
>| Olympus the E-10 and E-20 neither of which had interchangeable lenses.
>| But in general you are correct most SLR's are interchangeable lens
>| Cameras.
>|
>| Cheers!
>|
>| Dave
>

[Michael Meissner]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> writes:

> [url]http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusc2100uz/[/url]
>
> No it is a Point & Shoot with Zoom.

Or a zlr, using the wacky new group names.

--
Michael Meissner
email: [email]mrmnews@the-meissners.org[/email]
[url]http://www.the-meissners.org[/url]

[David J Taylor]

Michael Meissner wrote:
[]

>> No it is a Point & Shoot with Zoom.

>
> Or a zlr, using the wacky new group names.

A ZLR is not just a point and shoot with zoom; perhaps better defined as
an SLR-like camera with no mirror and fixed lens. On a ZLR one would look
for:

- SLR-like format
- zoom
- full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and focus
- hot shoe

etc. etc.

Cheers,
David

[Woodchuck Bill]

"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote in
news:30tkkqF34fd5tU1@uni-berlin.de:

> On a ZLR one would look
> for:
>
> - SLR-like format
> - zoom
> - full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and focus

Those are required.

> - hot shoe

Not required, at least by the rpd.zlr charter, though most ZLRs do have
them.

--
Bill

[Woodchuck Bill]

Dave Fouchey <dfouchey@sc.rr.com> wrote in
news:ccfiq01ek6mkdq7pb919uhrudljl7i2bnp@4ax.com:

> Sort of, there are at least two Digital SLR Cameras out there from
> Olympus the E-10 and E-20 neither of which had interchangeable lenses.

Those are ZLRs.

--
Bill

[andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid]

Woodchuck Bill <bwr607@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dave Fouchey <dfouchey@sc.rr.com> wrote in
> news:ccfiq01ek6mkdq7pb919uhrudljl7i2bnp@4ax.com:

>> Sort of, there are at least two Digital SLR Cameras out there from
>> Olympus the E-10 and E-20 neither of which had interchangeable lenses.

> Those are ZLRs.

Perhaps, but they are also SLRs. What they aren't is SLR system
cameras, hence the "system" in the name of this group.

Andrew.

[Alan Browne]

Puzzled wrote:

> I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks

More of a "zlr" (zoom lens reflex) as it has a non-excangeable lens, doesn't
seem to have a flash hotshoe either...


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[JPS@no.komm]

In message <30tkkqF34fd5tU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote:

>- full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and focus

Would that only apply to cameras where you can change these parameters
without going into a GUI?
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[David J Taylor]

[email]JPS@no.komm[/email] wrote:

> In message <30tkkqF34fd5tU1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote:
>

>> - full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and focus

>
> Would that only apply to cameras where you can change these parameters
> without going into a GUI?

I don't see that pushing a button or operating a wheel affects whether you
/can/ control these parameters or not.

David

[Alan Browne]

David J Taylor wrote:

> I don't see that pushing a button or operating a wheel affects whether you
> /can/ control these parameters or not.

It's not that you can control the parameters, but how easily it can be done
while shooting. I have two SLR's, a Maxxum 7xi and a Maxxum 9.

7xi: Changing between A-S and M modes; or setting exposure compensation is a bit
tedious (depress a button once or twice, then turn a wheel to select).

On the Maxxum 9 I can do these without taking my eye from the viewfinder and
entirely by feel or by watching the exp. meter. Makes shooting much less
tedious to have these principal controls dedicated.

On most P&S cameras it is more tedious yet for most cameras as these options (if
available) are buried in menus).

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[JPS@no.komm]

In message <30us1nF3553cmU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote:

>JPS@no.komm wrote:

>> In message <30tkkqF34fd5tU1@uni-berlin.de>,
>> "David J Taylor" <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote:
>>

>>> - full manual control of aperture, shutter speed and focus

>>
>> Would that only apply to cameras where you can change these parameters
>> without going into a GUI?

>
>I don't see that pushing a button or operating a wheel affects whether you
>/can/ control these parameters or not.

Well, having to go into a menu while your subject changes or leaves is
not SLR-like photography, IMO.
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[Roland Karlsson]

"Puzzled" <NotAt@yahoo.com> wrote in news:30se28F32osinU1@uni-berlin.de:

> I have an Olympus C-2100uz. Is this a digital slr? Thanks

It is an EVF. Unfortunately, the vote for new groups here decided
for totally wrong names and charters. Here is a list of relatively
correct names IMHO. BTW - voting is almost always the wrong method for
deciding what is wrong or right. Even my list is up to some discussions.
But it is 1000 times better than was decided here - still IMHO.


SLR (Single Lens Reflex)
------------------------
You look through the actual lens via a removable or semi transparent
mirror or prisma. The D20 is SLR (and SLR system). The E-10 and E-20
are SLR (and ZLR). NOTE - SLR do not need to have interchangable
lenses.

SLR System
----------
A SLR camera with interchangable lenses. The D20 but not E-10
and E-20 are SLR system.

Digital SLR system are also called DSLR. This is an anomaly though
- the should be called DSLR system as DSLR should mean Digital SLR.

TLR (Twin Lens Reflex)
----------------------
You look through a similar leans. The old Rollei is an example.
No such digital cameras exist.

TLR System
----------
TLR camera with interchangable lenses. Mamaya made one. Still,
no such digital cameras exist.

ZLR (Zoom Lens Reflex)
----------------------
A SLR camera with a non removable zoom lens. This acronyme was
invented by Olympus that had several ZLR cameras for film.
The E-10 and E-20 are ZLR. There are some few more, but not many.

EVF (Electronic View Finder)
----------------------------
A camera with an electronic viewfinder (that I assume shall look
through the actual lens, but I am not sure). The 2100uz is an EVF.

EVF (Electronic View Finder) System
-----------------------------------
Am EVF camera with exchangable lenses. No such system exists.
Personally I think this is a potential success when EVF becomes
faster and better than today. Focussing also needs to be improved.

Range Finder
------------
A camera with a coupled distance meassure of double image type.
Lots of oldies are of this type.

Range Finder System
-------------------
A range finder camera with exchangable lenses. The classical Leica
and others. The new Epson thingie falls in this category.

Compact
-------
A camera that is compact :) Almost all digital cameras fall into
this category and so do almost all film cameras. My G2 does.

Point&Shoot
-----------
A camera that is very simple and that you only can point and shoot
with. Really no settings available at all. There are very few
digital P&S cameras - and probably none discussed at news forums -
except maybe as a light weight camera for hobby aerial photography.


/Roland

[Roland Karlsson]

"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler@abc.net> wrote in
news:wuidnYipoIpYpzTcRVn-vg@comcast.com:

> SLR stands for 'Single Lens Reflex'. A mirror in front of the sensor
> (or the film in the case of a film camera) reflects the image to the
> viewer and flips out of the way when the shutter is pressed. The name
> does not specifically say it, but all SLRs have interchangeable lenses
> as well.
>

Nope - SLR does not say anything about interchangable lenses.
It is perfectly fine to make one without. Lots of movie cameras
are SLR. The E-10 and E-20 are SLR.

When you have an SLR with interchangable lenses you call it an
SLR system.


/Roland