Digital Camera

[Tacit]

>I do not expect you understand why I prefer a floppy camera, since you do

>not understand the nature of my business. I admit a CD camera will replace
>the floppy camera, but the cost is way too high.

At around $500-$600, the floppy-based Mavica is about three times the cost of
similar resolution compact flash or memory-stick-based cameras. So if money is
a prblem, you can buy a superior digital camera and a floppy drive, and you'll
be set.

>I need removable media to give pictures to people, and for onscreen images,
>the floppy cameras work great.

For onscreen pictures, the onscreen camera works so-so. It does not offer the
capability to, for example, crop an image and still fill a modern computer
screen, and the color resolution is actually quite poor.

You keep talking about your business, which leads me to believe you intend to
make money from this camera. If that is indeed true, it makes sense to get the
best tools you can afford. What happens when your customer DOES want to print
the image, or your customer gets a computer whose monitor offers 1024x768 or
greater resolution? If you want to make money, you should consider that
businesses succeed when they have an eye on future needs.

>You do not understand that I do not work in the print industry, and for
>me on-screen is sufficient enough.

But I do understand that you keep your options open by keeping an eye on
quality. You can buy a camera with double the resolution of the Maciva for half
the money; that gives you far more flexibility, and still lets you copy the
image to floppies and hand them to woever wants them.

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[Phil Stripling]

[email]crucifyself03@aol.comn[/email]ojunk (Crucifyself03) writes:

> What would you recommend? I was thinking of Sony. I'd like a camera with a
> floppy disk, so I can easily hand people pictures while on the road, without
> any special cables or software.

My wife has a Mavica which saves to floppies, and it works very well for
us. We do just as you -- take a person's photo and give them the
disk. Since floppies are basically free, it's a nice gesture with no cost
to us.

>
> I have seen some prints with the floppy camera and they look okay, and I hear
> they also have the capability to use memory sticks. What do you recommend?

Her camera doesn't have a memory stick. It takes photos at three
resolutions. Since we mostly post the photos to the Web, she uses the
lowest resolution to get the most photos on the disk. We have printed one
to 8x10 photo quality paper, and no one realized it was not a "real"
photograph.

>
> The only problem I see, is that many of my Mac customers do not have floppy
> disk drives. Which will make it difficult for me to take pictures and hand
> them a disk.

Most Mac users still have a floppy drive. We did give a disk to one Mac
user without a drive for it, but he said he could give it to a PC owner he
knew and get the image. Don't let that be a bother to you.

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[Crucifyself03]

>My wife has a Mavica which saves to floppies, and it works very well for

>us. We do just as you -- take a person's photo and give them the
>disk. Since floppies are basically free, it's a nice gesture with no cost
>to us.

Thank you for your suberb response. I tested the Mavica floppy 1.2 mega pixel
today and it will do the job. I personally own a Vivitar 2.1 MP camera, I
would really like a Mavica, but this camera will be for a client of mine, who
knows dit about computers.

She just needs a simple camera that can take pictures, and then view them on
the computer. The Mavica's images looked similiar to my Vivitar's. I doubt
she will do much printing with it. But this camera will be an asset to her.

I do not understand why people think that everyone who buys a camera has to
print with it. Some people only view the images on a computer.

>Most Mac users still have a floppy drive. We did give a disk to one Mac
>user without a drive for it, but he said he could give it to a PC owner
>he
>knew and get the image. Don't let that be a bother to you.

I bet many of them do. Jwolf can you tell us? Jwolf says the USB floppy disk
drives sell well, and I may tend to believe him. I do see many of them still
being sold in stores. Apparantly many Mac users still use them.

[E-Star]

In article <20030724122513.15169.00000498@mb-m13.aol.com>,
Crucifyself03 <crucifyself03@aol.comnojunk> wrote:

> I do not expect you understand why I prefer a floppy camera

I believe you can buy flash memory readers if that helps.

Also maybe you should purchase a laptop for your business. Then you
could offer your customers any media they want. ie. cd, floppy, zip,
etc or even LAN it to them.

[Steve Hix]

In article <20030724183507.02417.00000528@mb-m21.aol.com>,
[email]crucifyself03@aol.comn[/email]ojunk (Crucifyself03) wrote:

> >Also maybe you should purchase a laptop for your business. Then you
> >could offer your customers any media they want. ie. cd, floppy, zip,
> >etc or even LAN it to them.

>
> Way too much hassle. man just give them a floppy.

Too much hassle for you?

You have a decreasing customer base in your future, given
that floppies are going away, even in PC land.

Learn to deal with it.

After all, floppies are evile(tm).

[GDB]

In article <20030724174311.04924.00000534@mb-m26.aol.com>,
[email]crucifyself03@aol.comn[/email]ojunk (Crucifyself03) wrote:

> >Most Mac users still have a floppy drive. We did give a disk to one Mac
> >user without a drive for it, but he said he could give it to a PC owner
> >he
> >knew and get the image. Don't let that be a bother to you.

>
> I bet many of them do. Jwolf can you tell us? Jwolf says the USB floppy disk
> drives sell well, and I may tend to believe him. I do see many of them still
> being sold in stores. Apparantly many Mac users still use them.

.. . . I haven't used a floppy on a Mac since 1998, even though I had a
module for my Powerbook 1400, and I currently own a USB floppy drive.
Files that small I can e-mail, but of course I get your point about
handing an image over on the spot to someone. But unless they have a
floppy equipped computer on them, I don't see why you'd care. By the
time they get to their computer the e-mail would hav arrived anyway . . .

Glenn

[Tacit]

>Way too much hassle. man just give them a floppy.

Currently, no Macs ship with floppy drives.

Dell systems no longer ship with floppy drives unless you buy them as an extra.

Intel has already announced that the next generation of Intel motherboards will
not support floppy drives.

The floppy is dead. You might as well start handing out images on punch cards
or paper tape.

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[forge]

On 23 Jul 2003 22:53:16 GMT, [email]crucifyself03@aol.comn[/email]ojunk
(Crucifyself03) wrote:

>What would you recommend? I was thinking of Sony. I'd like a camera with a
>floppy disk, so I can easily hand people pictures while on the road, without
>any special cables or software.

The floppy-disk camera is far from optimal to say the least. Floppy
access is slow and the disc only holds a meg and a half. Plus as you
said in your post, your Mac doesn't have a floppy drive!! The CD
cameras are only a little better; to read the CD in a computer the
disc has to be "finalized" which means it can no longer be written to.

I remember reading somewhere that Sony has discontinued or will be
discontinuing the floppy and CD cameras.

Sony's a good choice though. I have the Cyber-Shot P-71, which was the
predecessor to this one [url]http://tinyurl.com/hzno[/url] and I'm very happy
with it. It's compact and loaded to the gills with features, takes
great pictures, and the memory card holds hundreds. The only thing I
might've liked better would've been the ability to have sound in the
movies it takes... which, whaddya know, the P-72 does.

The only other brand I'd even consider would be Canon; for compactness
and features you can't beat the Digital ELPH - and their other
PowerShot cameras are very good too.

For the record my brother-in-law uses a Minolta like this one
[url]http://www.dimage.minolta.com/xi/[/url] and loves it to death. He travels a
lot and says "If they can't tell it's a camera they won't try to take
it from you at gunpoint." = )

[forge]

On 24 Jul 2003 16:25:13 GMT, [email]crucifyself03@aol.comn[/email]ojunk
(Crucifyself03) wrote:

>I do not expect you understand why I prefer a floppy camera, since you do not
>understand the nature of my business. I admit a CD camera will replace the
>floppy camera, but the cost is way too high.

Sounds like you've already made up your mind. Why the hell are you
asking all of us then???

[Square Bear]

Hi all,

My father an avid photographer is interested in switching to digital. He
currently has an OM1 with a good set of lenses etc. (i know that the OM
system is no more)

He is leaning towards a Minolta DSLR
Any recommendations/Suggestions/Comments?

Thanks in advance
Andrew

[Pure Emotion]

Depending on his needs, Canon 10D (along with new lenses), Nikon D100 (along
with new lenses) or Fuji S2 (along with new lenses)

All top shelf, and all will perform wonderfully.

Trevor C.
Townsville.


"Square Bear" <square_bear@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> My father an avid photographer is interested in switching to digital. He
> currently has an OM1 with a good set of lenses etc. (i know that the OM
> system is no more)
>
> He is leaning towards a Minolta DSLR
> Any recommendations/Suggestions/Comments?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrew
>
>

[Miro]

"Square Bear" <square_bear@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FuKWa.284$0a.19202@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...

> Hi all,
>
> My father an avid photographer is interested in switching to digital. He
> currently has an OM1 with a good set of lenses etc. (i know that the OM
> system is no more)
>
> He is leaning towards a Minolta DSLR
> Any recommendations/Suggestions/Comments?
>

Tell him to hold out for the Olympus 4:3 DSLR

[Miro]

"Andy G" <dalinean@starday.com.au> wrote in message
news:bgh7r0$p35k0$1@ID-119557.news.uni-berlin.de...

> tell him to try something like the canon g5 first and see if he can handle
> digital before forking out the big bucks on an slr

Its not the technology people cant handle ....... it is the Canon RAW files
that drive people loopy.

[Two Moocows]

Andrew, unfortunately Minolta don't make a removable lens DSLR.
I am soon to sell all my Minolta Gear and change to Canon, unfortunately. I
am keen on the EOS 10D, though I will also be buying a film body, so that I
can still get the benefits of wide angle landscape work.

Stew.

"Square Bear" <square_bear@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FuKWa.284$0a.19202@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...

> Hi all,
>
> My father an avid photographer is interested in switching to digital. He
> currently has an OM1 with a good set of lenses etc. (i know that the OM
> system is no more)
>
> He is leaning towards a Minolta DSLR
> Any recommendations/Suggestions/Comments?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrew
>
>

[Ken]

"Two Moocows" <NOSPAMstewhunt@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Andrew, unfortunately Minolta don't make a removable lens DSLR.

They made at least one that I know of, it was a Minolta/Agfa hybrid called
RD175 which took Minolta AF lenses. It is an old model now ... 1 or 2
Megapixels. Nothing on the dSLRs from Canon/Nikon today of course.

> I am soon to sell all my Minolta Gear and change to Canon, unfortunately.

I have a friend who is in the same boat, two bodies, a whole bunch of
Minolta Lenses (what is the collective noun for lenses?), multiple IR
syncing flashes and a bunch of accessories. He is waiting for a new Minolta
dSLR and all but given up. Maybe the new look "Konica Minolta"
([url]http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03080401konicaminolta.asp[/url]) has something
planned?

> I am keen on the EOS 10D, though I will also be buying
> a film body, so that I can still get the benefits of wide angle
> landscape work.

Good luck with the switch.

Regards, Ken

[M i c C u l l e n]

"Ken" <n e w s (at) k e n c h a n d l e r . c o m>, far, far away from
here, appears to have written:

[snips]

> I have a friend who is in the same boat, two bodies, a whole bunch of
> Minolta Lenses (what is the collective noun for lenses?),

Moneypit...
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[Ken]

"M i c C u l l e n" <nospam@cross.com.au> wrote:

> "Ken" <n e w s (at) k e n c h a n d l e r . c o m> wrote:

> > I have a friend who is in the same boat, two bodies, a whole bunch of
> > Minolta Lenses (what is the collective noun for lenses?),

> Moneypit...

:-P, obvious really.

'Should I just take the 50mm prime today, or carry around the whole moneypit
of lenses?' Yes, I like it.

KC

[Johncv A Smith]

Adobe PhotoShop see's my scanner but cannot see my camera. I am running windows xp that does see the camera know that the drivers are loaded. can see it in my computer. Any help would be appreciated. Please sent reply to [email]johncv@excite.com[/email]

Thank you

[Cheesefood]

Johncv:

Does your PS see a USB drive? When I connect my camera and download using PS, I access the E: drive, which is the USB drive my computer sees when I plug in my camera.

Are you sure there's no other drives available when your camera is plugged in?

It would probably be faster to download the photos directly to a folder and open them from the HD. PS can eat up a lot of resources and make the process more time-consuming.