DLL nightmares ...

[Sarah Tanembaum]

Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
third party software such as Real Player.

During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
system directories and program files directories, and various registry
settings.

Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and registry
setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?

Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?

Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
different location other than the windows system directory? How?
I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean as
possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.

Thanks

[Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]]

Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
should only have server applications on that system.

Don't install Office on your server.
Don't install real player on your server.

Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

> Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> third party software such as Real Player.
>
> During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> settings.
>
> Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and registry
> setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>
> Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
>
> Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
> different location other than the windows system directory? How?
> I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
> stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
> files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
> directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean as
> possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
>
> Thanks
>
>

--
[url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

[Sarah Tanembaum]

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...

> Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
> should only have server applications on that system.
>
> Don't install Office on your server.
> Don't install real player on your server.
>
> Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

> > Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> > machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> > third party software such as Real Player.
> >
> > During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> > system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> > settings.
> >
> > Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

registry

> > setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
> >
> > Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
> >
> > Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
> > different location other than the windows system directory? How?
> > I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
> > stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
> > files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
> > directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

as

> > possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
> --
> [url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

Why does it matter? I might want it to use using the terminal services
feaatures.

[Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]]

That's a little different. You didn't specify a TS environment.

You use a transform MSI
JSI Tip 3382. How do I install Office 2000 on a Windows 2000 Terminal
Server?:
[url]http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBG/TIP3300/rh3382.htm[/url]


I beleive the Transform file is already in Office XP/2003.

Deploying Office XP on Windows Terminal Services:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/xp/one/deph02.htm[/url]




Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...
>

>>Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
>>should only have server applications on that system.
>>
>>Don't install Office on your server.
>>Don't install real player on your server.
>>
>>Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
>>

>>>Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
>>>machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
>>>third party software such as Real Player.
>>>
>>>During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
>>>system directories and program files directories, and various registry
>>>settings.
>>>
>>>Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

>
> registry
>

>>>setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>>>
>>>Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
>>>
>>>Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
>>>different location other than the windows system directory? How?
>>>I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
>>>stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
>>>files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
>>>directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

>
> as
>

>>>possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>[url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

>
>
> Why does it matter? I might want it to use using the terminal services
> feaatures.
>
>

--
[url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

[root]

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...

> Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
> should only have server applications on that system.

Why is it I knew you were gonna try that. The gentile and intellectually
honest approach to a post like this is to FIRST attempt to answer the ACTUAL
QUESTIONS ASKED and then at the end pontificate about why possibly the
original question arose from a ill-advised plan.

> Don't install Office on your server.
> Don't install real player on your server.

Do NOT post a response to a query without attempting to at least try and
answer the posted question including saying honestly "I know of no way to do
that."

The original question remains and that is: Is there a convenient way to
inventory a clean SBS2003 install?

> Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

> > Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> > machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> > third party software such as Real Player.
> >
> > During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> > system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> > settings.
> >
> > Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

registry

> > setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
> >
> > Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
> >
> > Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
> > different location other than the windows system directory? How?
> > I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
> > stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
> > files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
> > directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

as

> > possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
> --
> [url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

[Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]]

She's asking for Windows 2003 and a TS install. I answered her
question, Root.

root wrote:

> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...
>

>>Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
>>should only have server applications on that system.

>
>
> Why is it I knew you were gonna try that. The gentile and intellectually
> honest approach to a post like this is to FIRST attempt to answer the ACTUAL
> QUESTIONS ASKED and then at the end pontificate about why possibly the
> original question arose from a ill-advised plan.
>
>

>>Don't install Office on your server.
>>Don't install real player on your server.

>
>
> Do NOT post a response to a query without attempting to at least try and
> answer the posted question including saying honestly "I know of no way to do
> that."
>
> The original question remains and that is: Is there a convenient way to
> inventory a clean SBS2003 install?
>
>

>>Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
>>

>>>Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
>>>machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
>>>third party software such as Real Player.
>>>
>>>During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
>>>system directories and program files directories, and various registry
>>>settings.
>>>
>>>Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

>
> registry
>

>>>setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>>>
>>>Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
>>>
>>>Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
>>>different location other than the windows system directory? How?
>>>I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
>>>stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
>>>files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
>>>directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

>
> as
>

>>>possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>[url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

>
>
>

[Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]]

Thanks Root for the posting tips, Root. I'll definitely keep them in
mind. As a newsgroup response should try to respond to the posters
question, and be civil in their answer. You are correct I was a bit
harsh and abrupt in my original answer.

Thanks for the heads up!

Susan

root wrote:

> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...
>

>>Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
>>should only have server applications on that system.

>
>
> Why is it I knew you were gonna try that. The gentile and intellectually
> honest approach to a post like this is to FIRST attempt to answer the ACTUAL
> QUESTIONS ASKED and then at the end pontificate about why possibly the
> original question arose from a ill-advised plan.
>
>

>>Don't install Office on your server.
>>Don't install real player on your server.

>
>
> Do NOT post a response to a query without attempting to at least try and
> answer the posted question including saying honestly "I know of no way to do
> that."
>
> The original question remains and that is: Is there a convenient way to
> inventory a clean SBS2003 install?
>
>

>>Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
>>

>>>Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
>>>machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
>>>third party software such as Real Player.
>>>
>>>During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
>>>system directories and program files directories, and various registry
>>>settings.
>>>
>>>Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

>
> registry
>

>>>setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>>>
>>>Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
>>>
>>>Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
>>>different location other than the windows system directory? How?
>>>I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
>>>stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
>>>files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
>>>directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

>
> as
>

>>>possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>[url]http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm[/url]

>
>
>

[HandyAndy aka Andy Goodman [SBS-MVP}]

Dear Sarah,

First let me apploigise for the rambling going on in this thread, lately
there is a new person getting on eveyone's elses nerves, seems that person
is trying to become know as the root of all evil. So for the entire group,
please accept our appoligies.

As for your original question which no-one has answered to this point, there
is a tool called sysdiff which I beleive is in the Windows Server Resource
kit. It will supply you the differences you are looking for.



--
Andy Goodman [SBS-MVP] a.k.a. HandyAndy
[url]www.SBS-Rocks.com[/url]

"Sarah Tanembaum" <sarahtanembaum@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2k4hneF161i9jU1@uni-berlin.de...

> Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> third party software such as Real Player.
>
> During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> settings.
>
> Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and registry
> setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>
> Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?
>
> Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps) into
> different location other than the windows system directory? How?
> I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but the
> stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and program
> files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those DLL into a
> directory other than system directory and keep system directory as clean

as

> possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.
>
> Thanks
>
>

[root]

"HandyAndy aka Andy Goodman [SBS-MVP}" <andy@spamkillerSBS-Rocks.com> wrote
in message news:O36KOX9WEHA.1764@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> Dear Sarah,
>
> First let me apploigise for the rambling going on in this thread, lately
> there is a new person getting on eveyone's elses nerves, seems that person
> is trying to become know as the root of all evil. So for the entire group,
> please accept our appoligies.
>
> As for your original question which no-one has answered to this point,

there

> is a tool called sysdiff which I beleive is in the Windows Server Resource
> kit. It will supply you the differences you are looking for.

Ah, insult and then comply...that's pretty cool, thankyou.

[Alex K. Angelopoulos [MVP]]

Reordered a bit. I tossed a coin, and came up with oldest -> newest top ->
bottom... :)

Comments inline, but you may want to mention the actual problem; your title
indicates a specific issue (possibly a versioning issue with something while
installing RealPlayer and some version of Office), but your question is
about a very broad area of enterprise management.

Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

>> Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

>>> Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand
>>> new machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and
>>> other third party software such as Real Player.

> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
> wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...

>> Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
>> should only have server applications on that system.
>>
>> Don't install Office on your server.
>> Don't install real player on your server.

> Why does it matter? I might want it to use using the terminal services
> feaatures.

As an aside before addressing your questions - you may find that RealPlayer
is not very helpful on a TS. The audio quality is limited and RealPlayer in
its various incarnations tends to be a bad citizen on a multitasking system.

>>> During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files
>>> under system directories and program files directories, and various
>>> registry settings.
>>>
>>> Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and
>>> registry setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?

There are some which can export information at certain points. I don't use
commercial ones much since I don't think that flat snapshots are very
useful, but you can even do a batch registry export and save a recursive
file listing with dates/sizes/checksums to compare to a later point in time.

In general this is most useful as a tool category for exploring, not for
specificallly to resolve a particular install problem or automate a process.

>>> Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?

Yes, and this is MUCH more compact than a snapshot, since it only checks
differences.

Symantec and most installer OEMs have tools which do this; I'm not familiar
with product names in general. :(

For easy use if you don't want to script this yourself you may want to try
InCtrl5; it is free.

>>> Q3. Is it possible to put all the 3rd party dll(including MS Apps)
>>> into different location other than the windows system directory?

Yes, and this should happen for files which are not operating system
updates. It doesn't happen with legacy apps automatically. Core OS files are
generally protected and won't be replaced by a bad app.

> How?

It depends on what the tool is and how you need to use it. With COM DLLs, as
long as they are versioned correctly you should be able to freely rename
them and use them where you need, as long as you register them. If the
versioning is messed up, you may need to copy and colocate the DLLs with the
calling app, registering it with its base name, but walking you through that
can take a while if it isn't the problem.

Standard C++ DLLs need to be within the search path of the calling
application.

>>> I know that we can install where the apps executables should be, but
>>> the stray dll files that are installed in the systems directory and
>>> program files directory that of my concern. I'd like to put all those
>>> DLL into a directory other than system directory and keep system
>>> directory as clean as possible from the clutter of 3rd party apps.

That's going to be tough. What's your overall problem and goal here?

[Alex K. Angelopoulos [MVP]]

root wrote:

> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:40DD181E.10501@pacbell.net...

>> Why are you installing Office and Real player on your server? Server
>> should only have server applications on that system.

>> Don't install Office on your server.
>> Don't install real player on your server.

>
> Do NOT post a response to a query without attempting to at least try and
> answer the posted question including saying honestly "I know of no way
> to do that."
>
> The original question remains and that is: Is there a convenient way to
> inventory a clean SBS2003 install?

Good point, but I would have said the same thing about real player. :)

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

> Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> third party software such as Real Player.
>
> During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> settings.
>
> Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and registry
> setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
>
> Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?

Hi

Some free programs that should be able to help you here (I use
InCtrl5 myself):

Search for InCtrl5 here:
[url]http://www.xpefiles.com[/url]


Total Uninstall - track and undo system changes
[url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/totaluninstall.html[/url]
[url]http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu.html[/url]


InstallWatch
[url]http://www.epsilonsquared.com/[/url]


Installation Monitor
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/instaler-o.asp[/url]


InstallSpy
[url]http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html[/url]


--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx[/url]

[Sarah Tanembaum]

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" <Torgeir.Bakken-spam@hydro.com> wrote in message
news:#VEXrEJXEHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

> Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
>

> > Assuming that I just installed a new Windows 2003 Server on a brand new
> > machine. Then I installed a few application such as MS Office and other
> > third party software such as Real Player.
> >
> > During installation of any application, some(if not all) put files under
> > system directories and program files directories, and various registry
> > settings.
> >
> > Q1. Is there any tools to to take the inventory of all files and

registry

> > setting before(the virgin OS) and after(OS plus apps)?
> >
> > Q2. Is there tools that take the diff of those two states?

> Hi
>
> Some free programs that should be able to help you here (I use
> InCtrl5 myself):
>
> Search for InCtrl5 here:
> [url]http://www.xpefiles.com[/url]
>
>
> Total Uninstall - track and undo system changes
> [url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/totaluninstall.html[/url]
> [url]http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu.html[/url]
>
>
> InstallWatch
> [url]http://www.epsilonsquared.com/[/url]
>
>
> Installation Monitor
>

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/existing/instaler-o.asp[/url]

>
>
> InstallSpy
> [url]http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html[/url]
>
>
> --
> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx[/url]

First of all, I thank you all.

And Tolgeir, I definitely will try the above tools you suggested soon.
But the idea behind DLL(Dynamic Link Libraries) is dynamic and shared,
isn't it. With that in mind, again my question: Is it possible to REDIRECT
all library files (during the installation process) of any
3rd party apps such as Office, Real Player, and other to a specifed
directory, e.g:
C:\DLLS(all dlls) and C:\Apps\<appsname> directory instead of cluttering up
%SystemRoot% and Program Files directory which I think we should leave them
alone
for just system related stuffs.

The idea is to do it in the first place instead of at the end of
installation and take
the difference(sysdiff method).

Next is to figure out what has changed in the registry and seperate them out
from
the system related registry.

Thanks

Sarah

[Jetro]

Sarah,
Windows OS exists for more than 15 years already and this question is asked
since the first Windows day. Using System and System32 directories for the
system .dll files is a standard de-facto and there is no answer as such as
you want, alas. The situation has three solutions:
- use 3rd-party software;
- do not use Windows;
- adjust to Windows.

BTW, I recall a stronger than 'nightmare' terminology...

[Sarah Tanembaum]

"Jetro" <no.spam@internet> wrote in message
news:uA2K3PZXEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> Sarah,
> Windows OS exists for more than 15 years already and this question is

asked

> since the first Windows day. Using System and System32 directories for the
> system .dll files is a standard de-facto and there is no answer as such as
> you want, alas. The situation has three solutions:
> - use 3rd-party software;
> - do not use Windows;
> - adjust to Windows.
>
> BTW, I recall a stronger than 'nightmare' terminology...
>
>

Sorry if I offended you(dunno why), but all I'm asking is just a plain and
simple technical question.

[CRIS HANNA \(SBS-MVP\)]

Sarah
To give you the definitive answer regarding your DLL question. No you can
not redirect where those go.
You will notice for instance when installing Real Player, you don't even get
the option for a custom install. With Office you can do a custom install,
but the programmer's did specify where certain files (DLLs for instance) had
to in order to properly interact. This is going to be true with most
custom installs. You can specify where you want the majority of files in a
custom location, some files will still go to the location specified in
programming.

Hope that clears it up for you

--
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
everyone can share the information
"Sarah Tanembaum" <sarahtanembaum@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2kdlsjF15t58U1@uni-berlin.de...

>
> "Jetro" <no.spam@internet> wrote in message
> news:uA2K3PZXEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> > Sarah,
> > Windows OS exists for more than 15 years already and this question is

> asked

> > since the first Windows day. Using System and System32 directories for

the

> > system .dll files is a standard de-facto and there is no answer as such

as

> > you want, alas. The situation has three solutions:
> > - use 3rd-party software;
> > - do not use Windows;
> > - adjust to Windows.
> >
> > BTW, I recall a stronger than 'nightmare' terminology...
> >
> >

>
> Sorry if I offended you(dunno why), but all I'm asking is just a plain and
> simple technical question.
>
>

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP) wrote:

> Sarah
> To give you the definitive answer regarding your DLL question. No you can
> not redirect where those go.

Hi

During the installation, that is correct. But after the installation
is finished, you usually can move e.g. DLL files that the installation
put into the System32 folder to another folder as long as you run
regsvr32.exe on it after the move. In some cases you need to add the
folder (where you moved the DLL files to) to the path as well.

Anyway, I wouldn't recommend this method though, it will require a lot
of testing, and you would need to be sure to version handle all those
files very carefully, e.g. another program installation you do later
on could put the same DLL file with another version into the System32
folder, so you would need to coordinate and adjust for this type of
situations as well.

--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx[/url]

[Sarah Tanembaum]

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" <Torgeir.Bakken-spam@hydro.com> wrote in message
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> CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP) wrote:
>

> > Sarah
> > To give you the definitive answer regarding your DLL question. No you

can

> > not redirect where those go.

> Hi
>
> During the installation, that is correct. But after the installation
> is finished, you usually can move e.g. DLL files that the installation
> put into the System32 folder to another folder as long as you run
> regsvr32.exe on it after the move. In some cases you need to add the
> folder (where you moved the DLL files to) to the path as well.
>
> Anyway, I wouldn't recommend this method though, it will require a lot
> of testing, and you would need to be sure to version handle all those
> files very carefully, e.g. another program installation you do later
> on could put the same DLL file with another version into the System32
> folder, so you would need to coordinate and adjust for this type of
> situations as well.
>
> --
> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx[/url]

Thanks Chris & Torgeir,
How unfortunate that we can't do that. Will this be the
behaviour for the next generation of Windows as well?

The thing is that for any installation, I'd like to separate between the 3rd
party apps and the Systems Files, but
unfortunately we can't do it.

Thanks again to you all.

[Jetro]

My plain and simple technical answer was "No" but you aren't satisfied and
you get offended, why? Re-read your thread and count how many respected men
try to explain you ABC. Go to win2000.networking group and find the recent
thread "Are we a bunch of idiots?", read it, print it, and memorize it.