Embedding PDFs causing Font Issues

[AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com]

Hi,

This is what we do in our newspaper: we create tabloid-size supplements using ID CS multiple page documents. Then we export those pages as a single PDF file, using the Export Function of ID.

Then, manually, we do imposition on a broadsheet page by getting the proper pages from the (exported) PDF file and rotating them accordingly. (Let´s say in a 8-page sup, we create a single ID page containing pages 1 & 8 of the PDF).

We print that single page and it´s OK. We also archive every page by printing them to a Distiller hot folder.

Those new PDF files display OK as well, BUT the problem shows up when we try to use some text from that archived PDF: we select the text in Acrobat Reader, copy it, and place it in WordPad or any text app, and we get this:

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(If you can´t see, it´s just square boxes, one per character).

We need this functionality to reuse the articles printed in the newspaper.

The original PDF works fine, but it´s setup at a different size and resolution, and it´s not good for archiving purposes.

It seems like the issue arises with Type 1 (CID) fonts, with Identity-H Codification, whatever that means.

We are using InDesign CS for WINDOWS...

It happens only with the pages created out of PDF files. The original pages create "healthy" PDF files thru the same Distiller queues...

Any help is appreciated...

[mikewitherell_at_jetsetcom_dot_net]

I wonder if you are subsetting the fonts when you make the PDF?

Mike Witherell in Washington DC

[AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com]

Mike,

We were, but I tried without subsetting and it didn´t fix the problem.

Thanks for your help, though...

[Guy_Smiley@adobeforums.com]

[email]AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com[/email] wrote in
news:3bb538e3.-1@webx.la2eafNXanI:

> Hi,
>
> This is what we do in our newspaper: we create tabloid-size
> supplements using ID CS multiple page documents. Then we export
> those pages as a single PDF file, using the Export Function of ID.
>
> Then, manually, we do imposition on a broadsheet page by getting
> the proper pages from the (exported) PDF file and rotating them
> accordingly. (Let´s say in a 8-page sup, we create a single ID
> page containing pages 1 & 8 of the PDF).
>
> We print that single page and it´s OK. We also archive every page
> by printing them to a Distiller hot folder.
>
> Those new PDF files display OK as well, BUT the problem shows up
> when we try to use some text from that archived PDF: we select the
> text in Acrobat Reader, copy it, and place it in WordPad or any
> text app, and we get this:
>
> ��������&#5
> 6256;
> ��������&#5
> 6404;
> ��������&#5
> 6256;
> ��������&#5
> 6320;
> ��������&#5
> 6256;
> ��������&#5
> 6395;
> ��������&#5
> 6256;
> ��������&#5
> 6385; ������

Three ideas:

(1) See what happens if you create the original PDFs by distilling
PostScript instead of exporting.

(2) See what happens if you open the final PDFs in Acrobat instead of
Acrobat Reader and copy the text from there.

(3) See what happens if you export the text from Acrobat instead
copy-pasting.

[AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com]

Guy:

Three ideas:

> (1) See what happens if you create the original PDFs by distilling PostScript

instead of exporting.




It works fine... not the best solution but it works...

> (2) See what happens if you open the final PDFs in Acrobat instead of

Acrobat Reader and copy the text from there.




Same thing, same problem...

> (3) See what happens if you export the text from Acrobat instead copy-pasting.

I couldn´t find such an option in Acrobat 6.0 Professional...?

Thanks for the good ideas...

[Guy_Smiley@adobeforums.com]

[email]AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com[/email] wrote in
news:3bb538e3.3@webx.la2eafNXanI:

> > (3) See what happens if you export the text from Acrobat
> > instead copy-pasting.

>
> I couldnït find such an option in Acrobat 6.0 Professional...?

Save as RTF or TXT format.

[AlexanderDelgado@adobeforums.com]

(3) See what happens if you export the text from Acrobat instead copy-pasting.




I tried both, RTF & TXT. In RTF I got an error in which Acrobat complains about the codification of the problematic font and says that because of that it can´t create the RTF doc.

TXT: It gets created but it contains mostly blanks..!

[Thomas_Phinney@adobeforums.com]

What happens if you create the final PDF by exporting instead of using Distiller?

T

[Gabriel_Ayala@adobeforums.com]

What happens if you create the final PDF by exporting instead of using
Distiller?




I think what he means is via export vs. print.

Either way you do it, it has to use distiller.

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

Either way you do what has to use Distiller?

Exporting PDF directly from InDesign doesn't involve Distiller.

Dave

[howldog]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:55:40 -0700, [email]Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com[/email]
wrote:

>Either way you do what has to use Distiller?
>
>Exporting PDF directly from InDesign doesn't involve Distiller.
>
>Dave

it doesnt? I thought it did. How about that. It has its own PDF
distiller thing built in?

[Bob_Levine]

> Either way you do it, it has to use distiller.

How many times do I have to ask you to stop posting misinformation?
Exporting PDFs from ID is done natively.

Bob