Export to Photoshop question

[Dinsdale]

Team,

I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I open it
in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

Thanks in advance

Andrew

[Judy Arndt]

Andrew,
Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.

Judy Arndt

Dinsdale wrote:

> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I open it
> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

[Dinsdale]

Judy,

Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
ideas how I can get a full colour image?

Andrew

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Andrew,
> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.
>
> Judy Arndt
>
> Dinsdale wrote:
>

>>I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I open it
>>in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
>>Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

>
>

[Judy Arndt]

Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to preserve
transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes to opaque
pixels upon export.

You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha channel.
See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working with
alpha channels'.

Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you need to
move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my advice would
be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity, layer
masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save the
layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place the TIFF
in the FHMX document.

Judy Arndt

Dinsdale wrote:

> Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
> problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
> tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
> ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>
> Judy Arndt wrote:

>> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.

>> Dinsdale wrote:

>>> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I open it
>>> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
>>> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

[Dinsdale]

Judy,

Thanks for your patience. The image(s) I am exporting consist of a
photographic image and some text converted to paths. Not drop shadows or
other transparent FHMX effects. I wouldn't need to do the export but I
am trying to add some images as an overlay to the FHMX image, and I'm
using a PS7 native file which creates a light shadow around the overlaid
image, so I'm having to export the master image and overlay in PS7. BTW,
can't use a transparent EPS image to do the overlay in FHMX as some of
the final output is in PDF format and of course FHMX is messed up and
won't display EPS in PDF. Grrr.

So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
byt te look of it).

Andrew

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to preserve
> transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
> lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
> transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes to opaque
> pixels upon export.
>
> You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha channel.
> See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working with
> alpha channels'.
>
> Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you need to
> move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my advice would
> be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity, layer
> masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save the
> layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place the TIFF
> in the FHMX document.
>
> Judy Arndt
>
> Dinsdale wrote:
>

>>Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
>>problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
>>tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
>>ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>>
>>Judy Arndt wrote:
>>

>>>Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.

>
>

>>>Dinsdale wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I open it
>>>>in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
>>>>Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

>
>

[Judy Arndt]

Do you know how to create clipping paths in FreeHand?

Do you know how to create layer masks in Photoshop?

Judy Arndt


Dinsdale wrote:

> So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
> problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
> byt te look of it).

[Dinsdale]

Judy,

Not really for either, but I had a brainwave and tried exporting the
finalised image as a tiff, and the problem that originally caused my
headache has been overcome. As for the PS7 opaque image problem, I don't
thnk either of these techniques will solve the problem.

Thanks muchly

Andrew

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Do you know how to create clipping paths in FreeHand?
>
> Do you know how to create layer masks in Photoshop?
>
> Judy Arndt
>
>
> Dinsdale wrote:
>
>

>>So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
>>problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
>>byt te look of it).

>
>

[Wes Rand]

Are you saying that the layers come into Photoshop at 50% opacity? Or
that they cover about have the document?

Dinsdale wrote:

> Judy,
>
> Thanks for your patience. The image(s) I am exporting consist of a
> photographic image and some text converted to paths. Not drop shadows or
> other transparent FHMX effects. I wouldn't need to do the export but I
> am trying to add some images as an overlay to the FHMX image, and I'm
> using a PS7 native file which creates a light shadow around the overlaid
> image, so I'm having to export the master image and overlay in PS7. BTW,
> can't use a transparent EPS image to do the overlay in FHMX as some of
> the final output is in PDF format and of course FHMX is messed up and
> won't display EPS in PDF. Grrr.
>
> So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
> problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
> byt te look of it).
>
> Andrew
>
> Judy Arndt wrote:
>

>> Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to
>> preserve
>> transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
>> lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
>> transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes to
>> opaque
>> pixels upon export.
>>
>> You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha channel.
>> See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working with
>> alpha channels'.
>>
>> Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you
>> need to
>> move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my advice
>> would
>> be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity, layer
>> masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save the
>> layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place
>> the TIFF
>> in the FHMX document.
>>
>> Judy Arndt
>>
>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>

>>> Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
>>> problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
>>> tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
>>> ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>>>
>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.

>>
>>
>>

>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I
>>>>> open it
>>>>> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no opacity.
>>>>> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.

>>
>>
>>

[Dinsdale]

Wes,

All the layers come in at what appears to be 50% opacity. I can see the
squares pattern behind and through the image.

Andrew

Wes Rand wrote:

> Are you saying that the layers come into Photoshop at 50% opacity? Or
> that they cover about have the document?
>
> Dinsdale wrote:
>

>> Judy,
>>
>> Thanks for your patience. The image(s) I am exporting consist of a
>> photographic image and some text converted to paths. Not drop shadows
>> or other transparent FHMX effects. I wouldn't need to do the export
>> but I am trying to add some images as an overlay to the FHMX image,
>> and I'm using a PS7 native file which creates a light shadow around
>> the overlaid image, so I'm having to export the master image and
>> overlay in PS7. BTW, can't use a transparent EPS image to do the
>> overlay in FHMX as some of the final output is in PDF format and of
>> course FHMX is messed up and won't display EPS in PDF. Grrr.
>>
>> So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
>> problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
>> byt te look of it).
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>

>>> Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to
>>> preserve
>>> transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
>>> lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
>>> transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes to
>>> opaque
>>> pixels upon export.
>>>
>>> You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha
>>> channel.
>>> See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working with
>>> alpha channels'.
>>>
>>> Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you
>>> need to
>>> move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my advice
>>> would
>>> be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity, layer
>>> masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save the
>>> layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place
>>> the TIFF
>>> in the FHMX document.
>>>
>>> Judy Arndt
>>>
>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
>>>> problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
>>>> tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
>>>> ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>>>>
>>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I
>>>>>> open it
>>>>>> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no
>>>>>> opacity.
>>>>>> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

[Wes Rand]

Now that is odd. I'm noticing the same thing here at home. I'll have to
experiment at work to see if the same thing happens. I've done this sort
of thing before without noticing the reduced opacity in Photoshop
layers. Wonder if it is a particular combination of things.

I'm working with OS X 10.3.4, Freehand MX (I don't remember if I applied
the updates to this Freehand. Might just be the first update. I'll check
later if important.) And Photoshop 7. Any of that like your setup?


Dinsdale wrote:

> Wes,
>
> All the layers come in at what appears to be 50% opacity. I can see the
> squares pattern behind and through the image.
>
> Andrew
>
> Wes Rand wrote:
>

>> Are you saying that the layers come into Photoshop at 50% opacity? Or
>> that they cover about have the document?
>>
>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>

>>> Judy,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience. The image(s) I am exporting consist of a
>>> photographic image and some text converted to paths. Not drop shadows
>>> or other transparent FHMX effects. I wouldn't need to do the export
>>> but I am trying to add some images as an overlay to the FHMX image,
>>> and I'm using a PS7 native file which creates a light shadow around
>>> the overlaid image, so I'm having to export the master image and
>>> overlay in PS7. BTW, can't use a transparent EPS image to do the
>>> overlay in FHMX as some of the final output is in PDF format and of
>>> course FHMX is messed up and won't display EPS in PDF. Grrr.
>>>
>>> So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
>>> problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about 50%
>>> byt te look of it).
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to
>>>> preserve
>>>> transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
>>>> lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
>>>> transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes to
>>>> opaque
>>>> pixels upon export.
>>>>
>>>> You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha
>>>> channel.
>>>> See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working
>>>> with
>>>> alpha channels'.
>>>>
>>>> Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you
>>>> need to
>>>> move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my advice
>>>> would
>>>> be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity, layer
>>>> masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save the
>>>> layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place
>>>> the TIFF
>>>> in the FHMX document.
>>>>
>>>> Judy Arndt
>>>>
>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
>>>>> problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
>>>>> tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
>>>>> ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>>>>>
>>>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I
>>>>>>> open it
>>>>>>> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no
>>>>>>> opacity.
>>>>>>> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

[Wes Rand]

Okay, tried the same thing at work and it worked as I would have expected it:
layers came into Photoshop pretty much as the look in Freehand instead of
looking like they are set at 50% opacity. Not much difference between setups:
both running Mac OS X 10.3.4. Macromedia MX 11.02 at work 11.01 at home (I
think.) Photoshop 7 at home, Photoshop CS at work. Anyone have an idea on the
cause and solution?

[Dinsdale]

Wes,

My setup is 10.3.4, FH MX 11.0.2, and PS7.

Andrew

Wes Rand wrote:

> Now that is odd. I'm noticing the same thing here at home. I'll have to
> experiment at work to see if the same thing happens. I've done this sort
> of thing before without noticing the reduced opacity in Photoshop
> layers. Wonder if it is a particular combination of things.
>
> I'm working with OS X 10.3.4, Freehand MX (I don't remember if I applied
> the updates to this Freehand. Might just be the first update. I'll check
> later if important.) And Photoshop 7. Any of that like your setup?
>
>
> Dinsdale wrote:
>

>> Wes,
>>
>> All the layers come in at what appears to be 50% opacity. I can see
>> the squares pattern behind and through the image.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Wes Rand wrote:
>>

>>> Are you saying that the layers come into Photoshop at 50% opacity? Or
>>> that they cover about have the document?
>>>
>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Judy,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience. The image(s) I am exporting consist of a
>>>> photographic image and some text converted to paths. Not drop
>>>> shadows or other transparent FHMX effects. I wouldn't need to do the
>>>> export but I am trying to add some images as an overlay to the FHMX
>>>> image, and I'm using a PS7 native file which creates a light shadow
>>>> around the overlaid image, so I'm having to export the master image
>>>> and overlay in PS7. BTW, can't use a transparent EPS image to do the
>>>> overlay in FHMX as some of the final output is in PDF format and of
>>>> course FHMX is messed up and won't display EPS in PDF. Grrr.
>>>>
>>>> So, the upshot is, I can't export to PS7 until I can sort out this
>>>> problem with the images in all the layers appearing opaque (about
>>>> 50% byt te look of it).
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want to do. Do you want to
>>>>> preserve
>>>>> transparent FHMX effects such as drop shadows, glows and transparency
>>>>> lenses? They cannot be exported to Photoshop preserving the FHMX
>>>>> transparency. These are proprietary features that FHMX rasterizes
>>>>> to opaque
>>>>> pixels upon export.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can export a single-layer bitmap image that include an alpha
>>>>> channel.
>>>>> See the 'Using FreeHand MX' help files under the the topic 'Working
>>>>> with
>>>>> alpha channels'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Photoshop is vastly more powerful in handling transparency. If you
>>>>> need to
>>>>> move images back and forth between Photoshop and FreeHand, my
>>>>> advice would
>>>>> be to build your transparencies in Photoshop using layer opacity,
>>>>> layer
>>>>> masks and layer styles (depending on PS version). In Photoshop save
>>>>> the
>>>>> layered .psd document and then 'Save As' a flattened TIFF and place
>>>>> the TIFF
>>>>> in the FHMX document.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judy Arndt
>>>>>
>>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Done that and it works. The problem is the opague image. Is this a
>>>>>> problem related to the export of layers? I don't thinks so as I have
>>>>>> tried an export before without the layers and its still opaque. Any
>>>>>> ideas how I can get a full colour image?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judy Arndt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try Export > Photoshop 5 > Setup > 'Include layers' checked.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dinsdale wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried to export an image as a Photoshop file, but when I
>>>>>>>> open it
>>>>>>>> in PS 7, it is opaque, and I can't seem to find a way have no
>>>>>>>> opacity.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas? I am seeking to retain layers if I can.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>