FHMXa Text path editing bug?

[Judy Arndt]

Moving the origin of text on a path seems to trigger some kind of
path-editing nightmare when curve points are added to the path.

1. Draw open path from left to right. Attach a few words of left-aligned
text. Make a duplicate copy.

2. Select first copy. With pen tool, click on path and drag downwards to
place a curve point. Curve handles behave as expected. All is normal.

3. On second copy, drag the triangular text handle along path to reposition
text.

Now do the same click on path with pen tool and drag downwards. The new
point jumps upwards an immense distance upwards and the point's curve
handles are very long. The distance of the jump can easily be 10 times the
length of the drag.

Adding subsequent points might result in the position of the new, distant
point appearing to be constrained to a 45 degree angle from the point at
which the click was made.

Ultra strange. Anyone else seeing this?

Judy Arndt
--
FHMXa, G4, Mac OS 10.2.6

[Piers Le Sueur]

Hey Judy!...

Yep does the same for me!... Mac G4 2Gb ram, OSX.2.6

BUT... if you click the new point first, then adjust the point there is
no problem, only if you click and drag at the same time!

So if you want to click and drag, then yep there does appear to be a
bug, but if you make it two clicks, ie ad the node then adjust it seems
to work fine.

HTH

Regards
Piers

ArtnSoul Graphic Design

[Judy Arndt]

Piers Le Sueur wrote:

> Yep does the same for me!... Mac G4 2Gb ram, OSX.2.6

Thanks for checking Piers. Interesting that it happened for you as well.
I've since made a few new documents where this didn't happen, so I don't
know what triggered it earlier today in several documents in a row.

> BUT... if you click the new point first, then adjust the point there is
> no problem, only if you click and drag at the same time!
>
> So if you want to click and drag, then yep there does appear to be a
> bug, but if you make it two clicks, ie ad the node then adjust it seems
> to work fine.

Well, my original path had been a straight line, so a click placed a corner
point with no handles where I wanted a curve point with equal handles. I had
to make a trip to the Object Inspector, click on 'Path', curve point,
automatic handles, Then click drag the handles separately. That's a lot of
clicking. I'm exhausted! ;-)

Judy Arndt

[Judy Arndt]

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Thanks for checking Piers. Interesting that it happened for you as well.
> I've since made a few new documents where this didn't happen, so I don't
> know what triggered it earlier today in several documents in a row.

Darn, I spoke too soon. Yes the bug does occur every time. It only happens
on the duplicate copy of the text-on-path, not on the original.

Judy Arndt

[Piers Le Sueur]

Judy Arndt wrote:

> Darn, I spoke too soon. Yes the bug does occur every time. It only happens
> on the duplicate copy of the text-on-path, not on the original.

Ahhh yes.. I can confirm that.... hey I just discovered all works fine
if you say copy the curve and paste it, copy the type and re attach it
to the path. I guess the unfortunate thing is that's a fairly hefty
price to pay instead of being able to just duplicate!... Hmmmm just
going to check something else!....Does it if you use clone too!!

Has it been added to the Bug list?

Glad I could help out, and something to bear in mind for future reference.

Kind Regards
Piers

[Judy Arndt]

Piers Le Sueur wrote:

> Ahhh yes.. I can confirm that.... hey I just discovered all works fine
> if you say copy the curve and paste it, copy the type and re attach it
> to the path. I guess the unfortunate thing is that's a fairly hefty
> price to pay instead of being able to just duplicate!... Hmmmm just
> going to check something else!....Does it if you use clone too!!

Yes it happens with clones, too. It also happens if you copy a good
text-on-path into another spot in the same or into a new document. Something
is being corrupted in the clone, copy/paste and duplicate operations.

Normally click and then Opt-drag places a corner point and allows you to
pull out and reposition the trailing handle. On a copied text-on-path, this
creates a corner point miles away without the long point handles.

Moving the text along a path has nothing to do with the bug.

> Has it been added to the Bug list?

Not yet. Had to figure for sure what was happening before reporting it.

Judy Arndt

[Judy Arndt]

Okay here's a summary of what we've found so far regarding this FHMXa bug.

1. Draw open or closed path. Attach text.

2. Make a copy of the text-on-path, either through clone, duplicate or
copy/paste into the current document or another document.

3. On the copy, with pen tool, click on path and drag to place a curve
point. The new point jumps an immense distance away from the clicked point,
and the point's handles are very long.

4. Pen tool click on the path with option-drag produces a similar jump in
the placed corner point, but with shorter point handles.

5. Selecting an endpoint of the path and adding a new curve point with
click-drag also causes the point jump.

6. This bug also applies when editing the copy of a path with text flowed
inside.

7. This has been seen in FHMXa on Mac OSX 10.2.6 and FHMX on Windows.

8. The faulty text on path can be healed by using 'Detach from Path' and
reattaching. Unfortunately, all 'Text on Path' options such as Skew Vertical
and baseline positioning are lost. There is no way to save 'Text on Path'
settings as a Style, so you have to manually reset all those options.

I sure hope this gets fixed. I make copies of text-on-path every day.

FHMXb anyone?

Judy Arndt

[Judy Arndt]

> 2. Make a copy of the text-on-path, either through clone, duplicate or
> copy/paste into the current document or another document.

Aaagh! Add 'duplicate pages' to the list of text-on-path copies that exhibit
this bug.

Judy Arndt

[Bill]

Have you tried selecting an end point of the copied text-on-path while the
pen tool is selected? For me, it show a 'preview' line segment leading to
the corresponding point on the original text-on-path. Screenshot here:

[url]http://tinyurl.com/pmzi[/url]

Curiouser and curiouser.

--
Bill
FHMX/Win98/Athlon2100+/512M
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:55:55 -0600, Judy Arndt <jarndt@shawbiz.ca> wrote:

>

>> 2. Make a copy of the text-on-path, either through clone, duplicate or
>> copy/paste into the current document or another document.

>
> Aaagh! Add 'duplicate pages' to the list of text-on-path copies that
> exhibit
> this bug.
>
> Judy Arndt
>
>

[Judy Arndt]

I don't see the text move to the new position, but the preview appears to
start some distance from the path. Odd.

Hey, you have anti-aliased text on a path in Win98! Not fair.! We're still
looking at very rough non-aliased text preview with a lot of text on Mac OSX
-- but that's another complaint.

Judy Arndt


Bill wrote:

> Have you tried selecting an end point of the copied text-on-path while the
> pen tool is selected? For me, it show a 'preview' line segment leading to
> the corresponding point on the original text-on-path. Screenshot here:
>
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/pmzi[/url]
>
> Curiouser and curiouser.

[Bill]

There's an easy fix for that you know... switch platforms ;-}

I know, I know... I'm just kidding. Don't want any OS wars started on my
account.

--
Bill
FHMX/Win98/Athlon2100+/512M

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:56:15 -0600, Judy Arndt <jarndt@shawbiz.ca> wrote:

> Hey, you have anti-aliased text on a path in Win98! Not fair.! We're
> still
> looking at very rough non-aliased text preview with a lot of text on Mac
> OSX
> -- but that's another complaint.
>
> Judy Arndt