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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:56:47 +0100, "Jon Leech" <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Hello, > >I'm after a half decent negative scanner, around the 200 to 300 mark. > >Should I buy a reasonable Film Scanner, like the Jessops Primefilm 3600PRO >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzh[/url] > >or Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3 >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzt[/url] > >or > >get a good flatbed with a negative scanner like the Epson Perfection 3200 >Photo >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzl[/url] > >I don't really need a flatbed, as I've got a cheap one that is good enough >for the larger things I have to scan... image quality from the negatives is >my main priority. ...

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    Default Re: Film Scanner or Flatbed with Film Adaptor??

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:56:47 +0100, "Jon Leech"
    <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >Hello,
    >
    >I'm after a half decent negative scanner, around the 200 to 300 mark.
    >
    >Should I buy a reasonable Film Scanner, like the Jessops Primefilm 3600PRO
    >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzh[/url]
    >
    >or Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3
    >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzt[/url]
    >
    >or
    >
    >get a good flatbed with a negative scanner like the Epson Perfection 3200
    >Photo
    >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzl[/url]
    >
    >I don't really need a flatbed, as I've got a cheap one that is good enough
    >for the larger things I have to scan... image quality from the negatives is
    >my main priority.
    >
    >I'm guessing a dedicated film scanner will give a better scan that a
    >flatbed?
    Yes, definitely film scanner. And the Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3 is
    highly recommended in that price range.



    Jan Philips Guest

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    "Jan Philips" <judmccrbellsouth.net> wrote in message
    news:h0ulhvo1e0cg0uktff5llpus92m4jb0c814ax.com...
    > On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:56:47 +0100, "Jon Leech"
    > <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    > >Hello,
    > >
    > >I'm after a half decent negative scanner, around the 200 to 300 mark.
    > >
    > >Should I buy a reasonable Film Scanner, like the Jessops Primefilm
    3600PRO
    > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzh[/url]
    > >
    > >or Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3
    > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzt[/url]
    > >
    > >or
    > >
    > >get a good flatbed with a negative scanner like the Epson Perfection 3200
    > >Photo
    > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzl[/url]
    > >
    > >I don't really need a flatbed, as I've got a cheap one that is good
    enough
    > >for the larger things I have to scan... image quality from the negatives
    is
    > >my main priority.
    > >
    >
    > >I'm guessing a dedicated film scanner will give a better scan that a
    > >flatbed?
    >
    > Yes, definitely film scanner. And the Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3 is
    > highly recommended in that price range.
    >
    Thanks.... I'll see if I can test out the Minolta and the Jessops film
    scanners 'side by side' at my local Jessops. On paper, the Jessops has a
    much higher resolution... I wonder who actually 'makes' their scanner??

    Cheers,
    Jon



    Jon Leech Guest

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    "Jon Leech" <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:mgDSa.9662$Df6.4144news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >
    > "Jan Philips" <judmccrbellsouth.net> wrote in message
    > news:h0ulhvo1e0cg0uktff5llpus92m4jb0c814ax.com...
    > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:56:47 +0100, "Jon Leech"
    > > <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    > >
    > > >Hello,
    > > >
    > > >I'm after a half decent negative scanner, around the 200 to 300 mark.
    > > >
    > > >Should I buy a reasonable Film Scanner, like the Jessops Primefilm
    > 3600PRO
    > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzh[/url]
    > > >
    > > >or Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3
    > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzt[/url]
    > > >
    > > >or
    > > >
    > > >get a good flatbed with a negative scanner like the Epson Perfection
    3200
    > > >Photo
    > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzl[/url]
    > > >
    > > >I don't really need a flatbed, as I've got a cheap one that is good
    > enough
    > > >for the larger things I have to scan... image quality from the
    negatives
    > is
    > > >my main priority.
    > > >
    > >
    > > >I'm guessing a dedicated film scanner will give a better scan that a
    > > >flatbed?
    > >
    > > Yes, definitely film scanner. And the Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3 is
    > > highly recommended in that price range.
    > >
    >
    > Thanks.... I'll see if I can test out the Minolta and the Jessops film
    > scanners 'side by side' at my local Jessops. On paper, the Jessops has a
    > much higher resolution... I wonder who actually 'makes' their scanner??
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Jon
    >
    Do you have any intention of scanning anything bigger than 35mm film? If you
    do then I'd go for the Epson flatbed. If not, go for a dedicated flim
    scanner.

    Simon.
    >

    mr. chip Guest

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    But the Minolta has much better color...

    Jessop's = 36 bit (12bit red // 12bit green // 12 bit blue)
    Minolta = 48bit (16bit red // 16bit green // 16bit blue)

    Which gives a much better dynamic range for the film scan. A lot of people
    say that they exaggerate their dynamic range (which is 4.6 compared to the
    Jessop's 3.6) , but I have the Scan Elite II & the colors are much more
    vibrant than many other scanners in the same range.

    The Minolta has 2820 vs the Jessop's 3600. Make sure that the Jessop's isn't
    an interpolated 3600 compared to the Minolta's non-interpolated 2820...

    There's also the software factor to deal with. The Minolta has excellent
    software that renders colors accurately & for the times that it doesn't seem
    to be quite so accurate, you can adjust the (scanner) chip's pre-process &
    get an accurate scan with ease & precision...

    With the wider dynamic range of the Minolta, you'll say goodbye to contrast
    issues as you'll see detail from hundreds of shades of white to hundreds of
    shades of black with a lot of detail intact...

    Just a few things to consider...

    Paul
    ///////////////


    "Jon Leech" <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:mgDSa.9662$Df6.4144news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >
    >
    > Thanks.... I'll see if I can test out the Minolta and the Jessops film
    > scanners 'side by side' at my local Jessops. On paper, the Jessops has a
    > much higher resolution... I wonder who actually 'makes' their scanner??
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Jon
    >
    >
    >

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    "mr. chip" <simoncrinklechip.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bff3g2$75s$1news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
    > "Jon Leech" <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:mgDSa.9662$Df6.4144news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
    > >
    > > "Jan Philips" <judmccrbellsouth.net> wrote in message
    > > news:h0ulhvo1e0cg0uktff5llpus92m4jb0c814ax.com...
    > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:56:47 +0100, "Jon Leech"
    > > > <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >Hello,
    > > > >
    > > > >I'm after a half decent negative scanner, around the 200 to 300 mark.
    > > > >
    > > > >Should I buy a reasonable Film Scanner, like the Jessops Primefilm
    > 3600PRO
    > > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzh[/url]
    > > > >
    > > > >or Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3
    > > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzt[/url]
    > > > >
    > > > >or
    > > > >
    > > > >get a good flatbed with a negative scanner like the Epson Perfection
    > 3200
    > > > >Photo
    > > > >[url]http://tinyurl.com/hhzl[/url]
    > > > >
    > > > >I don't really need a flatbed, as I've got a cheap one that is good
    > enough
    > > > >for the larger things I have to scan... image quality from the
    > negatives
    > is
    > > > >my main priority.
    > > > >
    >
    > > > >I'm guessing a dedicated film scanner will give a better scan that a
    > > > >flatbed?
    > > >
    > > > Yes, definitely film scanner. And the Minolta DImage Scan Dual 3 is
    > > > highly recommended in that price range.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Thanks.... I'll see if I can test out the Minolta and the Jessops film
    > > scanners 'side by side' at my local Jessops. On paper, the Jessops has a
    > > much higher resolution... I wonder who actually 'makes' their scanner??
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Jon
    > >
    >
    > Do you have any intention of scanning anything bigger than 35mm film? If you
    > do then I'd go for the Epson flatbed. If not, go for a dedicated flim
    > scanner.
    >
    > Simon.
    > >
    I have been struggling with the same question. I have a $50.00 flat
    bed scanner, but I need to be able to scan negatives as well.

    I have been looking at the HP 5500c flat bed scanner. It seems to have
    the flat bed, plus a photo feeder to automatically feed and scan up to
    12 4x6 prints in a row. Plus it also has an attachment that will scan
    negatives and slides. I don't really need slides though.

    Does anyone have any impression of this unit? I habve been told a few
    times to check out the Minolta one as it is around the same price as
    the HP I am looking at.

    Any advise?
    Frederick Guest

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    Hi,

    Just found some VERY interesting reviews..... basically the Jessops is a
    Pacific Image 3600PRO, and in comparison to the Minolta is pretty poor. The
    colours are wrong and the contrast is bad. Excellent review here, which
    compares the Pacific Image (Jessops) agaisnt the Minolta....
    [url]http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=171[/url]

    The Minolta on the other hand, looks very impressive...
    [url]http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=167[/url]

    .... and for 250, I think I'll buy one (check out uk.pricerunner.com)

    Cheers,
    Jon



    "Paul Brecht" <nowayidontthinkso.net> wrote in message
    news:KJ2cndor0OxRoIaiXTWJiQgiganews.com...
    > But the Minolta has much better color...
    >
    > Jessop's = 36 bit (12bit red // 12bit green // 12 bit blue)
    > Minolta = 48bit (16bit red // 16bit green // 16bit blue)
    >
    > Which gives a much better dynamic range for the film scan. A lot of people
    > say that they exaggerate their dynamic range (which is 4.6 compared to the
    > Jessop's 3.6) , but I have the Scan Elite II & the colors are much more
    > vibrant than many other scanners in the same range.
    >
    > The Minolta has 2820 vs the Jessop's 3600. Make sure that the Jessop's
    isn't
    > an interpolated 3600 compared to the Minolta's non-interpolated 2820...
    >
    > There's also the software factor to deal with. The Minolta has excellent
    > software that renders colors accurately & for the times that it doesn't
    seem
    > to be quite so accurate, you can adjust the (scanner) chip's pre-process &
    > get an accurate scan with ease & precision...
    >
    > With the wider dynamic range of the Minolta, you'll say goodbye to
    contrast
    > issues as you'll see detail from hundreds of shades of white to hundreds
    of
    > shades of black with a lot of detail intact...
    >
    > Just a few things to consider...
    >
    > Paul
    > ///////////////
    >
    >
    > "Jon Leech" <j.leech22nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:mgDSa.9662$Df6.4144news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks.... I'll see if I can test out the Minolta and the Jessops film
    > > scanners 'side by side' at my local Jessops. On paper, the Jessops has
    a
    > > much higher resolution... I wonder who actually 'makes' their scanner??
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Jon
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    > I had purchased a Pacific Image film scanner, although not the one
    mentioned
    > above....and let me tell you I brought it back to the store within a day
    and
    > got an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo. The Pacific unit, as the review
    > mentions, is difficult to use. I want to scan my negs or slides, not
    spend
    > time figuring out what went wrong because their software had more bugs
    than
    > Miami in the summer.
    >
    > Get anything you want, but I warn you about Pacific Image.
    >
    > --
    > Tom
    >
    > [url]http://www.tom-photo.com/[/url]

    Bought the Minolta yesterday morning (250 delivered).... should be here
    today. I'll post some comments once I've had a play :)

    Cheers,
    Jon


    Jon Leech Guest

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