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  1. #1

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Second half of 2006, some are say fall, about October/November 2006. RTM
    possibly in August.
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    "Marina Limeira" <marinalimeiraa@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
    news:OviLi%237QGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > When the Vista will be start final version ?
    >
    > Marina
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

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  3. #2

    Default Re: final version - when?

    LOL quite a wide range there Andre. But yeh, it's really tempremental. The
    best thing to take on board is "2nd half of 2006"... anything from July
    onwards ;o)

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    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > Second half of 2006, some are say fall, about October/November 2006. RTM
    > possibly in August.
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    > "Marina Limeira" <marinalimeiraa@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
    > news:OviLi%237QGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >> When the Vista will be start final version ?
    >>
    >> Marina
    >>
    >
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  4. #3

    Default final version - when?

    When the Vista will be start final version ?

    Marina


    Marina Limeira Guest

  5. #4

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    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
    > "some are say fall"
    > "Marina Limeira" wrote:
    >> When the Vista will be start final version ?
    Has anybody else spotted the bug in Vista Windows Mail which appears to move
    all the words around in newsgroup messages?


    The Scientist Guest

  6. #5

    Default Re: final version - when?

    ...anyone feel like a smarmy response involving Service Packs?
    Adahn Guest

  7. #6

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Nah, too tired. Going to bed... goodnight all :o)

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    "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    news:OD3Nj$9QGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > ..anyone feel like a smarmy response involving Service Packs?

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  8. #7

    Default Re: final version - when?

    huh?
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    "The Scientist" <scientistnewsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eYV1Mz9QGHA.3192@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
    >> "some are say fall"
    >
    >> "Marina Limeira" wrote:
    >>> When the Vista will be start final version ?
    >
    > Has anybody else spotted the bug in Vista Windows Mail which appears to
    > move all the words around in newsgroup messages?
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  9. #8

    Default Re: final version - when?

    When it is ready! Your crystal ball is as good as ours.

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    "Marina Limeira" <marinalimeiraa@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
    news:OviLi%237QGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > When the Vista will be start final version ?
    >
    > Marina
    >

    Richard Urban Guest

  10. #9

    Default Re: final version - when?

    SE was not an update for Windows 98.
    Windows 98 SE was a new version of Windows 98
    If you wanted Windows 98 SE, then you had to buy it unlike Service Packs
    which are free.
    There is no Service Pack for Windows 98 IIRC.

    As for when the final version of Vista will be released, see the other posts
    in this thread.

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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:%23PCdHVGRGHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > The "final" version will probably be some Service Pack version of Windows
    > Vista. Windows XP should be getting at least an SP3 version in 2007 and
    > perhaps even an SP4 version sometime later.
    >
    > Windows Vista will either get a number of service packs a la XP or NT4 ..
    > or Microsoft will not give Vista a long run preferring a new version of
    > Windows within a couple years or so a la Windows 98 which only got one
    > real
    > update (SP1/S.E) and lasted only a couple years before Millennium and 2000
    > took over. AFAIK, Microsoft can change course on these things so who's to
    > say?

    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

  11. #10

    Default Re: final version - when?

    There was not SP1 for Windows 98, but there was a service update that
    basically gave Windows 98 First Edition users all the technologies that were
    in Windows 98 SE for about $20 on CD or free download.
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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:eG7y29GRGHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
    > | SE was not an update for Windows 98.
    > | Windows 98 SE was a new version of Windows 98
    > | If you wanted Windows 98 SE, then you had to buy it unlike Service Packs
    > | which are free.
    > | There is no Service Pack for Windows 98 IIRC.
    > |
    > | As for when the final version of Vista will be released, see the other
    > | posts in this thread.
    > |
    > |
    > | "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > | news:%23PCdHVGRGHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > || The "final" version will probably be some Service Pack version of
    > Windows
    > || Vista. Windows XP should be getting at least an SP3 version in 2007 and
    > || perhaps even an SP4 version sometime later.
    > ||
    > || Windows Vista will either get a number of service packs a la XP or NT4
    > ..
    > || or Microsoft will not give Vista a long run preferring a new version of
    > || Windows within a couple years or so a la Windows 98 which only got one
    > || real
    > || update (SP1/S.E) and lasted only a couple years before Millennium and
    > || 2000 took over. AFAIK, Microsoft can change course on these things so
    > || who's to say?
    >
    > I remember Win98 SP1 and SE coming out at about the same time. Windows 98
    > orig. users could get a copy of SE for a much reduced amount - 20 or 40
    > dollars. The only difference between SP1 and SE was that SE had a couple
    > extra utilities e.g. ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) and, of course IE5,
    > but that could be downloaded for free and installed on Windows 98 orig.
    > anyway. Unless one wanted ICS, there was no real reason to switch to SE
    > because all the updates were available no charge from Microsoft's
    > websites.
    >
    > I just meant that the actual "final version" of Vista could be the one
    > they
    > will release to manufacturing in the next few months .. or some service
    > packed version released a few years from now. Microsoft has been known to
    > change plans. When WinFS etc. is ready they might service pack it in as
    > planned .. or .. change plans and come out with a new version of Windows.
    >
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  12. #11

    Default Re: final version - when?

    I think you're right Grok - although I haven't found anything directly from
    Microsoft, Paul Thurrott wrote about the differences between 98 SE and 98
    SP1.

    [url]http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/18735/18735.html[/url]

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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e5GnZyHRGHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
    > | There was not SP1 for Windows 98, but there was a service update that
    > | basically gave Windows 98 First Edition users all the technologies that
    > | were in Windows 98 SE for about $20 on CD or free download.
    > | --
    > |
    > | "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > | news:eG7y29GRGHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > || Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
    > ||| SE was not an update for Windows 98.
    > ||| Windows 98 SE was a new version of Windows 98
    > ||| If you wanted Windows 98 SE, then you had to buy it unlike Service
    > Packs
    > ||| which are free.
    > ||| There is no Service Pack for Windows 98 IIRC.
    > |||
    > ||| As for when the final version of Vista will be released, see the other
    > ||| posts in this thread.
    > |||
    > |||
    > ||| "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > ||| news:%23PCdHVGRGHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > |||| The "final" version will probably be some Service Pack version of
    > |||| Windows Vista. Windows XP should be getting at least an SP3 version
    > in
    > |||| 2007 and perhaps even an SP4 version sometime later.
    > ||||
    > |||| Windows Vista will either get a number of service packs a la XP or
    > NT4
    > |||| .. or Microsoft will not give Vista a long run preferring a new
    > |||| version of Windows within a couple years or so a la Windows 98 which
    > |||| only got one real
    > |||| update (SP1/S.E) and lasted only a couple years before Millennium and
    > |||| 2000 took over. AFAIK, Microsoft can change course on these things so
    > |||| who's to say?
    > ||
    > || I remember Win98 SP1 and SE coming out at about the same time. Windows
    > 98
    > || orig. users could get a copy of SE for a much reduced amount - 20 or 40
    > || dollars. The only difference between SP1 and SE was that SE had a
    > couple
    > || extra utilities e.g. ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) and, of course
    > || IE5, but that could be downloaded for free and installed on Windows 98
    > || orig. anyway. Unless one wanted ICS, there was no real reason to switch
    > || to SE because all the updates were available no charge from Microsoft's
    > || websites.
    > ||
    > || I just meant that the actual "final version" of Vista could be the one
    > || they
    > || will release to manufacturing in the next few months .. or some service
    > || packed version released a few years from now. Microsoft has been known
    > to
    > || change plans. When WinFS etc. is ready they might service pack it in as
    > || planned .. or .. change plans and come out with a new version of
    > Windows.
    >
    > Don't you remember? You could download the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1"
    > online or order the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" disc at no charge [which I
    > did] .. or order the SE 'upgrade' at low cost - like you said around $20 -
    > if you were a current user of Windows 98.
    >
    > SE had a few components that the service pack + downloadable updates
    > didn't
    > include such as ICS and firewire .. but not much more. So unless one had a
    > specific need for those utilities there was not *too* much point in paying
    > for SE when the service pack and downloads were at no charge. Not that SE
    > was going to cost the Win98 user much anyway.
    >
    > [url]http://www.winplanet.com/file/11650.htm[/url]
    >
    > ---
    > Grok
    >
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  13. #12

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Actually I've just found this, loose but still applies:

    [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/[/url]

    Get the latest updates to Windows 98
    If you are running Windows 98 Second Edition you do not need Customer
    Service Pack -- all of the updates in the Customer Service Pack are included
    on your system. Windows 98 Customer Service Pack updates Windows 98 to keep
    your system in top shape. Download the Service Pack from Windows Update or
    order by calling 800-360-7561 (U.S. only).

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    --- Original message follows ---
    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e5GnZyHRGHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
    > | There was not SP1 for Windows 98, but there was a service update that
    > | basically gave Windows 98 First Edition users all the technologies that
    > | were in Windows 98 SE for about $20 on CD or free download.
    > | --
    > |
    > | "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > | news:eG7y29GRGHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > || Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
    > ||| SE was not an update for Windows 98.
    > ||| Windows 98 SE was a new version of Windows 98
    > ||| If you wanted Windows 98 SE, then you had to buy it unlike Service
    > Packs
    > ||| which are free.
    > ||| There is no Service Pack for Windows 98 IIRC.
    > |||
    > ||| As for when the final version of Vista will be released, see the other
    > ||| posts in this thread.
    > |||
    > |||
    > ||| "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > ||| news:%23PCdHVGRGHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > |||| The "final" version will probably be some Service Pack version of
    > |||| Windows Vista. Windows XP should be getting at least an SP3 version
    > in
    > |||| 2007 and perhaps even an SP4 version sometime later.
    > ||||
    > |||| Windows Vista will either get a number of service packs a la XP or
    > NT4
    > |||| .. or Microsoft will not give Vista a long run preferring a new
    > |||| version of Windows within a couple years or so a la Windows 98 which
    > |||| only got one real
    > |||| update (SP1/S.E) and lasted only a couple years before Millennium and
    > |||| 2000 took over. AFAIK, Microsoft can change course on these things so
    > |||| who's to say?
    > ||
    > || I remember Win98 SP1 and SE coming out at about the same time. Windows
    > 98
    > || orig. users could get a copy of SE for a much reduced amount - 20 or 40
    > || dollars. The only difference between SP1 and SE was that SE had a
    > couple
    > || extra utilities e.g. ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) and, of course
    > || IE5, but that could be downloaded for free and installed on Windows 98
    > || orig. anyway. Unless one wanted ICS, there was no real reason to switch
    > || to SE because all the updates were available no charge from Microsoft's
    > || websites.
    > ||
    > || I just meant that the actual "final version" of Vista could be the one
    > || they
    > || will release to manufacturing in the next few months .. or some service
    > || packed version released a few years from now. Microsoft has been known
    > to
    > || change plans. When WinFS etc. is ready they might service pack it in as
    > || planned .. or .. change plans and come out with a new version of
    > Windows.
    >
    > Don't you remember? You could download the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1"
    > online or order the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" disc at no charge [which I
    > did] .. or order the SE 'upgrade' at low cost - like you said around $20 -
    > if you were a current user of Windows 98.
    >
    > SE had a few components that the service pack + downloadable updates
    > didn't
    > include such as ICS and firewire .. but not much more. So unless one had a
    > specific need for those utilities there was not *too* much point in paying
    > for SE when the service pack and downloads were at no charge. Not that SE
    > was going to cost the Win98 user much anyway.
    >
    > [url]http://www.winplanet.com/file/11650.htm[/url]
    >
    > ---
    > Grok
    >
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  14. #13

    Default Re: final version - when?

    ICS was one of the differences maintained between Windows 98 and Windows 98
    SE since ICS was not included.
    In spite of what the articles say, there was no Service Pack 1 for Windows
    98.
    I just double checked the Windows Update Catalog.
    I also performed a Clean Installation of Windows 98.
    I then installed all updates from Windows Update.
    Rebooted and installed more updates until there were no more updates
    available.
    SP-1 was never listed.
    Service Pack is not listed in "winver" or Properties.
    Finally I looked in Add/Remove Programs, Service Pack was not listed in any
    of the tabs or categories.
    There were Service Packs for Outlook Express and Internet Explorer, but
    those are not the same as a Service Pack for Windows.

    The CD that was sold for about $5 was not actually a Service Pack.
    It was a compilation of most of the updates to come out between Windows 98
    and Windows 98 SE.
    The CD did not include ICS the major difference between Windows 98 and
    Windows 98 SE.
    Everything on the CD was freely downloadable.

    The other CD sold for about $20 - $30 actually upgraded Windows 98 to
    Windows 98 SE, it was only available for Windows 98 systems and would not
    upgrade Windows 95 or other early OSs.
    This was an upgrade and not a Service Pack.

    If there was a Service Pack 1 for Windows 98, it would still be available as
    a Critical Update along with the other Critical Updates.

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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e5GnZyHRGHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > Don't you remember? You could download the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1"
    > online or order the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" disc at no charge [which I
    > did] .. or order the SE 'upgrade' at low cost - like you said around $20 -
    > if you were a current user of Windows 98.
    >
    > SE had a few components that the service pack + downloadable updates
    > didn't
    > include such as ICS and firewire .. but not much more. So unless one had a
    > specific need for those utilities there was not *too* much point in paying
    > for SE when the service pack and downloads were at no charge. Not that SE
    > was going to cost the Win98 user much anyway.
    >
    > [url]http://www.winplanet.com/file/11650.htm[/url]
    >
    > ---
    > Grok
    >
    >

    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

  15. #14

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Amazing research.
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    "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23oK%23iyNRGHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    > ICS was one of the differences maintained between Windows 98 and Windows
    > 98 SE since ICS was not included.
    > In spite of what the articles say, there was no Service Pack 1 for Windows
    > 98.
    > I just double checked the Windows Update Catalog.
    > I also performed a Clean Installation of Windows 98.
    > I then installed all updates from Windows Update.
    > Rebooted and installed more updates until there were no more updates
    > available.
    > SP-1 was never listed.
    > Service Pack is not listed in "winver" or Properties.
    > Finally I looked in Add/Remove Programs, Service Pack was not listed in
    > any of the tabs or categories.
    > There were Service Packs for Outlook Express and Internet Explorer, but
    > those are not the same as a Service Pack for Windows.
    >
    > The CD that was sold for about $5 was not actually a Service Pack.
    > It was a compilation of most of the updates to come out between Windows 98
    > and Windows 98 SE.
    > The CD did not include ICS the major difference between Windows 98 and
    > Windows 98 SE.
    > Everything on the CD was freely downloadable.
    >
    > The other CD sold for about $20 - $30 actually upgraded Windows 98 to
    > Windows 98 SE, it was only available for Windows 98 systems and would not
    > upgrade Windows 95 or other early OSs.
    > This was an upgrade and not a Service Pack.
    >
    > If there was a Service Pack 1 for Windows 98, it would still be available
    > as a Critical Update along with the other Critical Updates.
    >
    > --
    > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
    > [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
    > [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
    >
    >
    > "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:e5GnZyHRGHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >> Don't you remember? You could download the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1"
    >> online or order the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" disc at no charge [which
    >> I
    >> did] .. or order the SE 'upgrade' at low cost - like you said around
    >> $20 -
    >> if you were a current user of Windows 98.
    >>
    >> SE had a few components that the service pack + downloadable updates
    >> didn't
    >> include such as ICS and firewire .. but not much more. So unless one had
    >> a
    >> specific need for those utilities there was not *too* much point in
    >> paying
    >> for SE when the service pack and downloads were at no charge. Not that SE
    >> was going to cost the Win98 user much anyway.
    >>
    >> [url]http://www.winplanet.com/file/11650.htm[/url]
    >>
    >> ---
    >> Grok
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  16. #15

    Default Re: final version - when?

    For Windows 98 SE there was never a Service Pack

    For Windows 98 there was a Service Release 1 that came out after Win 98 SE released NOT a Service Pack..

    Service Release and Service Pack and Win 98 and Win98 SE are different

    I have the Service RELEASE 1 as it was called for Win 98 not for Win 98 SE right here in front of me.

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    "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message news:%23oK%23iyNRGHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    > ICS was one of the differences maintained between Windows 98 and Windows 98
    > SE since ICS was not included.
    > In spite of what the articles say, there was no Service Pack 1 for Windows
    > 98.
    > I just double checked the Windows Update Catalog.
    > I also performed a Clean Installation of Windows 98.
    > I then installed all updates from Windows Update.
    > Rebooted and installed more updates until there were no more updates
    > available.
    > SP-1 was never listed.
    > Service Pack is not listed in "winver" or Properties.
    > Finally I looked in Add/Remove Programs, Service Pack was not listed in any
    > of the tabs or categories.
    > There were Service Packs for Outlook Express and Internet Explorer, but
    > those are not the same as a Service Pack for Windows.
    >
    > The CD that was sold for about $5 was not actually a Service Pack.
    > It was a compilation of most of the updates to come out between Windows 98
    > and Windows 98 SE.
    > The CD did not include ICS the major difference between Windows 98 and
    > Windows 98 SE.
    > Everything on the CD was freely downloadable.
    >
    > The other CD sold for about $20 - $30 actually upgraded Windows 98 to
    > Windows 98 SE, it was only available for Windows 98 systems and would not
    > upgrade Windows 95 or other early OSs.
    > This was an upgrade and not a Service Pack.
    >
    > If there was a Service Pack 1 for Windows 98, it would still be available as
    > a Critical Update along with the other Critical Updates.
    >
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    > "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:e5GnZyHRGHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >> Don't you remember? You could download the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1"
    >> online or order the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" disc at no charge [which I
    >> did] .. or order the SE 'upgrade' at low cost - like you said around $20 -
    >> if you were a current user of Windows 98.
    >>
    >> SE had a few components that the service pack + downloadable updates
    >> didn't
    >> include such as ICS and firewire .. but not much more. So unless one had a
    >> specific need for those utilities there was not *too* much point in paying
    >> for SE when the service pack and downloads were at no charge. Not that SE
    >> was going to cost the Win98 user much anyway.
    >>
    >> [url]http://www.winplanet.com/file/11650.htm[/url]
    >>
    >> ---
    >> Grok
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    Peter Foldes Guest

  17. #16

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Are you sure it is not a Service Release?
    Now that Peter mentions it, I remember Service Release.
    As Peter says, they are not the same.

    Install Windows 98.
    Then install that CD.
    Does winver or Properties show a Service Pack?
    If it is indeed a Service Pack, you will see it stated.

    The Service Release was pretty much the same as Windows XP SP-2 Rollup 1.
    A compilation of updates but not a Service Pack.

    If it is actually a Service Pack, it will also be in the Critical Updates.

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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
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    > I hold the "Windows 98 Service Pack 1" CD-ROM in my hot little hands. I
    > ordered it from Microsoft at the time when most people went for 20 buck 98
    > S.E. upgrade instead. Gosh, I was a cheap bas****. Anyway:
    >
    > Let me check here what it contains though ..
    >
    > .. hold on while I put in in the DVD-ROM drive:
    >
    > Oh, there's the README.TXT
    >
    >
    > III. Contents of the Windows 98 Service Pack 1 CD
    > -------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Windows 98 System Update 1 : Security fixes and hardware specific updates
    > IE4.01 SP2: Internet related updates and security fixes
    > Windows 98 Year 2000 Update: Update for Outlook Express version
    > 4.72.3612.1713
    > Windows 98 Year 2000 Update: The 1st Y2K update for Windows 98 users
    > Windows 98 Year 2000 Update 2: The 2nd installment in the Y2K update
    >
    >
    > A setup.exe Wizard guided the user through the whole process of installing
    > the System Update, the MSIE upgrade and the Y2K fixes that comprised the
    > Windows 98 Service Pack 1.
    >
    > ---
    > Grok

    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

  18. #17

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Made easier by a spare computer, a few caddies for hard drives and other
    available resources.

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    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > Amazing research.
    > --
    > --
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    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

  19. #18

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Does it show Service Pack 1 in Properties or winver when installed?
    That is where the truth is told.

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    "Grok" <grok@no-email.com> wrote in message
    news:ek4xwHURGHA.5908@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Here's a .jpg photo of the CD-ROM. I ordered it from Microsoft instead of
    > the S.E. upgrade. They (Microsoft) called it a "Service Pack 1" although
    > as
    > you realize, the Service Pack 1 was a bunch of updates that a setup.exe
    > wizard walked the user through.
    >
    > ---
    > Grok

    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

  20. #19

    Default Re: final version - when?

    "The Scientist" <scientistnewsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Has anybody else spotted the bug in Vista Windows Mail which appears
    > to move all the words around in newsgroup messages?
    Doesn't happen on my Windows Vista machine.

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    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE Guest

  21. #20

    Default Re: final version - when?

    Is he talking about the auto indenting in newsgroups? I find that annoying too

    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
    > huh?
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    >
    > "The Scientist" <scientistnewsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:eYV1Mz9QGHA.3192@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > > Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
    > >> "some are say fall"
    > >
    > >> "Marina Limeira" wrote:
    > >>> When the Vista will be start final version ?
    > >
    > > Has anybody else spotted the bug in Vista Windows Mail which appears to
    > > move all the words around in newsgroup messages?
    > >
    >
    >
    >
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