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Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media) - Macromedia Dynamic HTML

Hi everyone, I just downloaded and installed firefox 3, and to my dismay, the primary web page I keep updated is all out of whack design wise. I've isolated the problem to the table cell with the <object> tag in it for our flash media, but I cannot figure anything out beyond there. It looks beautiful in IE 6, 7, Firefox 2.0 and all mac browsers. It appears that there are 5-10 pixels of dead space now below my object tag which throws the entire rest of my site alignment off. I realize the site is very web 1.0 (tables ...

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    Default Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    Hi everyone,

    I just downloaded and installed firefox 3, and to my dismay, the primary web
    page I keep updated is all out of whack design wise. I've isolated the problem
    to the table cell with the <object> tag in it for our flash media, but I cannot
    figure anything out beyond there. It looks beautiful in IE 6, 7, Firefox 2.0
    and all mac browsers.

    It appears that there are 5-10 pixels of dead space now below my object tag
    which throws the entire rest of my site alignment off.

    I realize the site is very web 1.0 (tables / images / etc.) and we're in the
    process of thoroughly revamping it. But it needs to work in the mean time.
    With a good percentage of our users probably early adopters... I want to fix
    this problem before it becomes too big!

    The original site can be seen here: http://www.livepraylove.com
    I've uploaded screenshots here: http://www.livepraylove.com/tms/firefox3.html

    The page code is below - like I said, please forgive the web 1.0 code. thanks
    so much for your help!
    Tim



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    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

    <!-- site design by: Andy Mylin and Tim Shutes, Mylin Illustration and Design,
    com; com-->
    <!-- design last updated: *10/3/07* -->

    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

    <!-- Begin Head Information -->
    <head>
    <title>Penns Valley Community Church</title>
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    <td align="center">
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    <!-- Devotionals -->
    <img style="float: left;" src="images/spacer.gif" height="1" width="25" /><p
    style="float: left; margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 13px;">: devotionals : </p>
    <p style="float: left; margin-left: 70px; margin-top: 13px;">
    <a href="http://www.rbc.org/odb/odb.shtml" target="_blank">Our
    Daily Bread</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; or&nbsp;&nbsp;<a
    href="http://www.rbc.org/utmost/index.php" target="_blank">My
    Utmost For His Highest</a></p>
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    <h2><b>: This Week at PVCC</b></h2>

    <b>
    <!-- Insert Series Text Here (place between <p> tags) -->
    </b> <p>Life in the Produce Department is back! This week we look
    at &quot;Kindness&quot; <br />
    <br />
    <strong>Greatest Hits</strong> (mp3)<br />
    : <a href="media/jw_05-25-08.mp3">Sun 5/25/08 -
    &quot;Patience&quot;</a></p>
    </td>

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    rsion=6,0,29,0" width="532" height="229" hspace="0" vspace="0" style="margin:
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    <p style="margin-top: 55px; margin-right: 115px; margin-bottom: 0px;">: we
    meet Sundays at 9:45 am for a light breakfast and at 10:30 we begin our
    service, a time of celebrating and discovering our Lord Jesus Christ :</p>
    </td>
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    <p class="footer">Sunday Service: 10:30am at Old Gregg School Community Center
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    : <b>Office Hours:</b> M-Th, 9am-1pm or by appointment :
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    </t
    Shutez Guest

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    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    Seems to be some kind of bug with the code. I would simply replace it by
    re-adding it in DW 9. It will work using the code DW inserts:



    <script type="text/javascript">
    AC_FL_RunContent(
    'codebase','http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#
    version=9,0,28,0','width','532','height','229','ti tle','flash','src','http://www
    ..livepraylove.com/scrollview','quality','high','pluginspage','http://www.adobe.c
    om/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash','movi e','http
    ://www.livepraylove.com/scrollview' ); //end AC code
    </script><noscript><object
    classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
    codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
    rsion=9,0,28,0" width="532" height="229" title="flash">
    <param name="movie" value="http://www.livepraylove.com/scrollview.swf" />
    <param name="quality" value="high" />
    <embed src="http://www.livepraylove.com/scrollview.swf" quality="high"
    pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Versio
    n=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="532"
    height="229"></embed>
    </object></noscript>

    garem Guest

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    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    The only problem is that I have Dreamweaver 8 at the office here. I can put in
    for an upgrade, but I need to fix this issue before that.

    I tried the code above... nothing shows up in either browser. IE gives me
    this error:

    Line: 98
    Character: 1
    Error: Object Expected
    Code: 0
    URL: www.livepraylove.com

    Line 98 is this line in the above code beginning with: "AC_FL_RunContent"

    Can anyone help?

    Tim


    Shutez Guest

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    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    never mind - that happens in safari as well on my home mac.

    anyone else have any ideas here? I'm banging my head against the wall...
    Shutez Guest

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    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    We just noticed the odd space (5px) being added to our page under flash files
    also; which is how we came to notice this posting. After playing with the code
    for a few min. The resolutions was VERY old school...

    The closing </object> tag was on the line immediately after the <embed
    src=...> tag.

    EXAMPLE:
    <embed src=...>
    </object>

    We bumped the </object> tag up to the same line and the issue was fixed.

    <embed src=...></object>

    I'm not sure if your having different issues, but this looks like the same
    problem we were having. (BTW, we too have outdated code we are working on
    moving to valid xHTML. Whatcha gonna do?).

    (I say this is "old school" because it reminds me of an old issue IE use to
    have with </td>'s being on the next line back in the day, whenever that was.)

    rasterme Guest

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    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    ah actually our resolution was good old fashioned css. Added this code to our
    attached css file and voila.

    object {
    display:block;
    }

    I remember having to deal with that ie issue back in the day. IE 6 actually
    has a similar issue with inline images within tables having to be on the same
    line.

    We're going with an entire redesign and css-based layout - basically valid
    xHTML as well.

    Best of luck - thanks for the response!

    Shutez Guest

  7. #7

    Default Re: Firefox 3 & the object tag (for flash media)

    ah actually our resolution was good old fashioned css. Added this code to our
    attached css file and voila.

    object {
    display:block;
    }

    I remember having to deal with that ie issue back in the day. IE 6 actually
    has a similar issue with inline images within tables having to be on the same
    line.

    We're going with an entire redesign and css-based layout - basically valid
    xHTML as well.

    Best of luck - thanks for the response!

    Tim

    Shutez Guest

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