Fireworks MX and Print Jobs?

[Jim Babbage]

Hello:

Fireworks is NOT the app of choice for hi resolution graphics. It was
designed by MM as a web graphics app, and can choke quite handily on large
files <grin>. If you wish to stay in the MM product line, I'd recommend
Freehand. It's kinda like Illustrator and Quark rolled into one.

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"J-Luv" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:bfjsa5$fql$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> I have to design a magazine ad for print and wanted to know if Fireworks

is considered just as good as Illustrator as far as designing high
resolution designs, etc?

>
> i know fireworks is the tool of choice for the web, but what about print?

please elaborate my fellow graphics peers......

>
> :)
>
>
> I hate the average 9 to 5.

[Coen Naninck]

Too bad I haven't tried printing on my old Athlon 600 but I guess
Fireworks will be slow when handling material made in it.
Just last week I started experimenting with Fireworks for printing since
I am designing a Portfolio/acquisition folder - that I need to show
potential customers. As Fireworks is my favorite application to do this
and I can't/don't like to work with Freehand, I am forced to use
Fireworks to print everything.
On my new system - Athlon 2600+ 1Gb (brag brag...) it seems to go just
okay. No apparent slowdowns. Which is not to say that Fireworks is good
for printing because I know it is not.

You could export your work to Adobe AI format when printing. That would
be a good option, considering the fact that CMYK is indeed not supported
by Fireworks and your images come out wrong than what you had expected.

For my company printing paper I designed the layout with Fireworks -
then exporting to Freehand. But Freehand makes a mess of the layout when
doing copy/paste and converts some Gradients to Bitmaps when using
multiple gradients sometimes. (Flash seems to do this too by the way).

All in all, printing from Fireworks probably isn't the best thing to do,
but if you have a midrange system like mine (see i'm lesseing the
bragratio here...) then you won't suffer too much on speed once you have
set the proper PPI. You might want to stay away from converting the
PPI until you are done with editing. That will keep the speed up.
On an inkjet printer, output seems to be fine. I don't have professional
print experience with (the use of) Fireworks though.



Stéphane Bergeron wrote:

> "J-Luv" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:
>

>> I have to design a magazine ad for print and wanted to know if
>> Fireworks is considered just as good as Illustrator as far as
>> designing high resolution designs, etc?
>>
>> i know fireworks is the tool of choice for the web, but what about
>> print? please elaborate my fellow graphics peers......

>
>
> Fireworks was indeed designed to produce images for screen output
> exclusively and is very ill suited to high resolution print output. It
> was not designed for print at all. It will slow to a crawl if you try to
> manipulate high res images in it and it also lacks the precision of a
> true illustation apps like FreeHand, Illustrator, Canvas and CorelDraw
> or page layout apps like QuarkXpress or InDesign because it works with
> pixels, not real world measurement units. It's drawing toolset has some
> very unique features but again it lacks the depth and sophistication of
> any of the 4 apps above. Furthermore, Fireworks does not support the
> CMYK color space and you will not get accurate color output in print.
> Fireworks will print ok to an inkjet printer but it doesn't support the
> PostScript format used by printers or RIPs found in professional print
> houses or service bureaus.
>
> If you have Fireworks MX it might mean that you own hte full Studio MX
> and FreeHand is included in that package. It is the tool of choice
> within Macromedia's product line for print work, not Fireworks.
>
> HTH!
>
> Stéphane
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
_______________________________

Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.

Thank you.

E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]

[Bill Ray]

Coen slept!! :) How many hours was that run? 45?

BR




"Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
news:3F1DA651.4010408@home.nl...

> Too bad I haven't tried printing on my old Athlon 600 but I guess
> Fireworks will be slow when handling material made in it.
> Just last week I started experimenting with Fireworks for printing since
> I am designing a Portfolio/acquisition folder - that I need to show
> potential customers. As Fireworks is my favorite application to do this
> and I can't/don't like to work with Freehand, I am forced to use
> Fireworks to print everything.
> On my new system - Athlon 2600+ 1Gb (brag brag...) it seems to go just
> okay. No apparent slowdowns. Which is not to say that Fireworks is good
> for printing because I know it is not.
>
> You could export your work to Adobe AI format when printing. That would
> be a good option, considering the fact that CMYK is indeed not supported
> by Fireworks and your images come out wrong than what you had expected.
>
> For my company printing paper I designed the layout with Fireworks -
> then exporting to Freehand. But Freehand makes a mess of the layout when
> doing copy/paste and converts some Gradients to Bitmaps when using
> multiple gradients sometimes. (Flash seems to do this too by the way).
>
> All in all, printing from Fireworks probably isn't the best thing to do,
> but if you have a midrange system like mine (see i'm lesseing the
> bragratio here...) then you won't suffer too much on speed once you have
> set the proper PPI. You might want to stay away from converting the
> PPI until you are done with editing. That will keep the speed up.
> On an inkjet printer, output seems to be fine. I don't have professional
> print experience with (the use of) Fireworks though.
>
>
>
> Stéphane Bergeron wrote:

> > "J-Luv" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:
> >

> >> I have to design a magazine ad for print and wanted to know if
> >> Fireworks is considered just as good as Illustrator as far as
> >> designing high resolution designs, etc?
> >>
> >> i know fireworks is the tool of choice for the web, but what about
> >> print? please elaborate my fellow graphics peers......

> >
> >
> > Fireworks was indeed designed to produce images for screen output
> > exclusively and is very ill suited to high resolution print output. It
> > was not designed for print at all. It will slow to a crawl if you try to
> > manipulate high res images in it and it also lacks the precision of a
> > true illustation apps like FreeHand, Illustrator, Canvas and CorelDraw
> > or page layout apps like QuarkXpress or InDesign because it works with
> > pixels, not real world measurement units. It's drawing toolset has some
> > very unique features but again it lacks the depth and sophistication of
> > any of the 4 apps above. Furthermore, Fireworks does not support the
> > CMYK color space and you will not get accurate color output in print.
> > Fireworks will print ok to an inkjet printer but it doesn't support the
> > PostScript format used by printers or RIPs found in professional print
> > houses or service bureaus.
> >
> > If you have Fireworks MX it might mean that you own hte full Studio MX
> > and FreeHand is included in that package. It is the tool of choice
> > within Macromedia's product line for print work, not Fireworks.
> >
> > HTH!
> >
> > Stéphane
> >

>
>
> --
> Good luck!
>
> Coen Naninck
> _______________________________
>
> Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
> on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
> can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
> just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
>
> Thank you.
>
> E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
> Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
>

[Coen Naninck]

Actually, a little more than that and once I woke up had to run.
Couldn't finish Styles site so will do this tomorrow (Monday).

Bill Ray wrote:

> Coen slept!! :) How many hours was that run? 45?
>
> BR
>
>
>
>
> "Coen Naninck" <ccnk@home.nl> wrote in message
> news:3F1DA651.4010408@home.nl...
>

>>Too bad I haven't tried printing on my old Athlon 600 but I guess
>>Fireworks will be slow when handling material made in it.
>>Just last week I started experimenting with Fireworks for printing since
>>I am designing a Portfolio/acquisition folder - that I need to show
>>potential customers. As Fireworks is my favorite application to do this
>>and I can't/don't like to work with Freehand, I am forced to use
>>Fireworks to print everything.
>>On my new system - Athlon 2600+ 1Gb (brag brag...) it seems to go just
>>okay. No apparent slowdowns. Which is not to say that Fireworks is good
>>for printing because I know it is not.
>>
>>You could export your work to Adobe AI format when printing. That would
>>be a good option, considering the fact that CMYK is indeed not supported
>>by Fireworks and your images come out wrong than what you had expected.
>>
>>For my company printing paper I designed the layout with Fireworks -
>>then exporting to Freehand. But Freehand makes a mess of the layout when
>>doing copy/paste and converts some Gradients to Bitmaps when using
>>multiple gradients sometimes. (Flash seems to do this too by the way).
>>
>>All in all, printing from Fireworks probably isn't the best thing to do,
>>but if you have a midrange system like mine (see i'm lesseing the
>>bragratio here...) then you won't suffer too much on speed once you have
>> set the proper PPI. You might want to stay away from converting the
>>PPI until you are done with editing. That will keep the speed up.
>>On an inkjet printer, output seems to be fine. I don't have professional
>>print experience with (the use of) Fireworks though.
>>
>>
>>
>>Stéphane Bergeron wrote:
>>

>>>"J-Luv" [email]webforumsuser@macromedia.com[/email] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have to design a magazine ad for print and wanted to know if
>>>>Fireworks is considered just as good as Illustrator as far as
>>>>designing high resolution designs, etc?
>>>>
>>>>i know fireworks is the tool of choice for the web, but what about
>>>>print? please elaborate my fellow graphics peers......
>>>
>>>
>>>Fireworks was indeed designed to produce images for screen output
>>>exclusively and is very ill suited to high resolution print output. It
>>>was not designed for print at all. It will slow to a crawl if you try to
>>>manipulate high res images in it and it also lacks the precision of a
>>>true illustation apps like FreeHand, Illustrator, Canvas and CorelDraw
>>>or page layout apps like QuarkXpress or InDesign because it works with
>>>pixels, not real world measurement units. It's drawing toolset has some
>>>very unique features but again it lacks the depth and sophistication of
>>>any of the 4 apps above. Furthermore, Fireworks does not support the
>>>CMYK color space and you will not get accurate color output in print.
>>>Fireworks will print ok to an inkjet printer but it doesn't support the
>>>PostScript format used by printers or RIPs found in professional print
>>>houses or service bureaus.
>>>
>>>If you have Fireworks MX it might mean that you own hte full Studio MX
>>>and FreeHand is included in that package. It is the tool of choice
>>>within Macromedia's product line for print work, not Fireworks.
>>>
>>>HTH!
>>>
>>>Stéphane
>>>

>>
>>
>>--
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Coen Naninck
>>_______________________________
>>
>>Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
>>on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
>>can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
>>just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
>>Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]
>>

>
>
>

--
Good luck!

Coen Naninck
_______________________________

Please do not E-mail me with questions about Fireworks issues. Post them
on the Forum instead. All the time I have left to spend in this Forum
can't be contributed to also answering questions outside the Forum. It
just takes too much time and it doesn't help the rest of the world.

Thank you.

E-mail & MSN: [email]ccnk@home.nl[/email]
Corporate: [url]http://www.wetworks.nl[/url]