Fonts changing when pasting into new document

[jhgd143@adobeforums.com]

I've noticed this peculiar bug at least a couple times. I'll cut some elements out of one InDesign document, paste them into a new black document, and several of the fonts change. Has anyone else seen this, and does anyone have any idea what might cause it?

[Eric_@_MCA@adobeforums.com]

This most likely has to do with different definitions of default paragraph and/or character style for the two documents. If so, Dave Saunders has done excellent descriptions of both the problem and a possible solution in this thread:

Anne-Marie Concepcion, "CS2 Pasted Text turns Pink -- puzzling" #, 31 Aug 2005 5:57 am </cgi-bin/webx?14@@.3bbc2dbb>#post

[Claudio_González@adobeforums.com]

I think the thread cited by Eric deserves to be rescued before it goes to the limbus. Hope it's not too late.

[Nini Tjäder]

It is a known problem. See this TechNote:

328472 Text formatting changes after you copy and paste (InDesign CS, CS2)
<http://information.adobe.com/cgi-bin1/DM/y/e6680OZV5W0OeP0HnOV0Ev>

[Dave_Saunders@adobeforums.com]

That topic was already protected against expiring. When I see references made to topics I tend to do that. I just elevated it to visible permanent status.

I'm going add the information in Nini's message 3 to it.

Thanks Claudio and Nini.

Dave

[Claudio_González@adobeforums.com]

Nini, thanks for the link. However, I find Dave's explanation in the thread more informative and complete. In my opinion, it's one of those threads that deserve been rescued.

[jhgd143@adobeforums.com]

Thanks for pointing me to those links, but none look like a fix, just a workaround. And they don't work in my situation. I am on the latest version of ID 4.04. If I clear the override on the text in question, it disappears completely. And now that I look at the document, there is text messed up all over the place. I regular use this process in my daily workflow designing magazines. Picking up elements that have been used before from older issues. Does this mean, I have to double check every font. It is happening from the Library too. If I pull something out of the library, the font is changing too! And now that I delve deaper, I had some problems with fonts I though I changed, having reverted back. This must have been what happened here too! This is the kind of shit I abandoned Quark because of!

[Claudio_González@adobeforums.com]

You had a genuine question in your opening post, and it has been answered. I am not sure if you are asking anything in your last message, or just venting. Please remember you are addressing fellow users here, not Adobe.

[jhgd143@adobeforums.com]

Venting a bit, but I'm just saying as far as my workflow, this is a very serious bug. The workaround didn't work in my case either.

[chris@adsrus.com]

This link may not be the answer to your problem, but it may help you in the future...

<http://yabbadobedoo.com/cinema3/missing_font_mystery.html>

Chris

[Steve_Werner@adobeforums.com]

I'm guessing that Russell Viers' explanation of what can happen (in the link Chris provided in #9) is what's going on. He did a great job of illustrating it visually.

[chris@adsrus.com]

Well finally!!!
Out of all the times I've posted this link, it may finally have helped someone.

:-)

Chris

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

I make magazines too.

What I do when I set up a new template or magazine is:

with a blank Paragraph style sheet pallet I drag a block of text with all styles I want to use from an old mag. I don't copy and paste the text.

This retains all the styles and fonts, for me anyway.

[Cindy_Johnston@adobeforums.com]

Very clever idea, Buko!

[Gerald_Singelmann@adobeforums.com]

IS there a difference between drag&drop and copy/paste between InDesign documents?
I would have sworn there isn't.

[Peter_Truskier@adobeforums.com]

I think this is the critical part of Buko's method:

with a blank Paragraph style sheet pallet

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

Exactly, Peter.

It just saves problems of bringing styles over with the same name. I believe that the style in the doc you are moving the text too will override the style being brought in.

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

drag&drop and copy/paste between InDesign documents?




drag and drop is the same as copy and paste of the whole text frame. see Post #16

but copy and paste of just type depends how your prefs are set.