Frames Help

[wizard341 webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

I have a site with a side frame that is acting a little bit wierd, and i cant figure out why. The side frame basically calls other things, using Content as the target. That seems to work fine, the side frame stays constant and the inner "main page" updates with the page you want to view.

However, on a few of my pages i have pictures you can click for a fullscreen view and to read more info(these link to a screen with no frame). Then at the bottom of the fullscreen image, i have a back link, which calls the previous page's frameset with the target set to _top. So if the page i made was named page1, and the frameset i made was called Framepage1, the image calls Framepage1.

Now the problem occurs when i try to use the frame like before, clicking on the links with content again, they are opened up in a new window without the frameset (just the "main context" is shown). So im pretty sure its how im calling back that frameset from the fullscreen image, but i dont know how to go about fixing it.

Thanks in advance!


I just wanted to add, that if i hit the back button on the browser instead of the back link i created, i can continue to use my frameset fine. In addition, if i click the back link on my picture, and then click on a link that loads a differnt frameset, it works fine from then on until i go open another picture. Hopefully that can help pinpoint the problem.

[Capt. Verde]

Check where you have the target for the new frame set to open in...it sounds like you have the target set to "_blank" set it to "_parent".

Always remember, no matter where ya go....there ya are!

[wizard341 webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Ok i got it, i guess i had to change the Content frame (whatever that is) to the mainframe. thanks!

[[Mercurius]]

Hi, ive got a problem. I have a four divided frameset. One banner like frame at
the top, two right and let menus and one relative center area. Problem is when
I create a layout EXACTLY with a pictures size, and I insert it, it still does
not appear centerd and fixated as I wish ALTHOUGH the rows and columns do match
the pictures size. I tried every possible approach and I failed, I got a book
Dreamweaver MX Bible though it did not helped me. The same happens with all the
graphic and backgrounds. I even played with CSS, works only to align
backgrounds, but not pictures. Can you help me please?

[darrel]

> Can you help me please?

Can you give us a link please?

-Darrel

[[Mercurius]]

[url]http://www.kain152.go.ro[/url]

As you see, with no borders and no resize the frames still overlap by a white dotted line...

[darrel]

> As you see, with no borders and no resize the frames still overlap by a
white dotted line...

Why are you using frames for this? This would make a lot more sense as a
table.

AS for your white borders, that's part of your image.

-Darrel

[[Mercurius]]

I am using frames beacause the Stone Slab on the left would operate as a
navigation menu, while the right slab, each time I change a page would display
a new quote. And I chose frames beacause I do not want the images to be loaded
again and again I click a link. As for the images, they have been resized and
edited corectly using Fireworks MX Trial, I checked them again now, they dont
have a white border at all. I put the both in Adobe Photoshop and tested them
outside Fireworks MX, they dont have border at all. Many have said I should not
use frames, but with tables the images are still loaded every time I click a
link. In any case, regardless if I use frames or not, please help me get this
problem done, I am curious why do they not overlap when the images are rezised
correctly. Thanks in advance.

[darrel]

> I am using frames beacause the Stone Slab on the left would operate as a

> navigation menu, while the right slab, each time I change a page would

display

> a new quote. And I chose frames beacause I do not want the images to be

loaded

> again and again I click a link.

They aren't. Images load once and then they are cached by the browser.

> As for the images, they have been resized and
> edited corectly using Fireworks MX Trial, I checked them again now, they

dont

> have a white border at all.

Yes, they do:

[url]http://www.kain152.go.ro/Left.jpg[/url]

> Many have said I should not
> use frames, but with tables the images are still loaded every time I click

a

> link.

They are downloaded once from the server. Then they're cached.

-Darrel

[[Mercurius]]

Hey, look at the [url]www.kain152.go.ro[/url], In the left you see the same right image
"trying" to put herself together with the top frame, in the left the same image
resides there and it is completly, I donwloaded the image myself, it shows no
white border Darrel. Plus, I cant position the frames correctly trying to do
this with the mouse, I use a layer and a cell inside a layer to position the
image, but it is the same result! How can I use frames precisely and easyly in
dreamweaver? Or i can only do that by coding?

[darrel]

> I donwloaded the image myself, it shows no

> white border Darrel.

You wouldn't happen to be looking at that image against a white background,
would you? Without a doubt, that image that is on your server has 1 pixel of
white along the right and bottom edges. I'm sorry you don't believe me. ;o)

> Plus, I cant position the frames correctly trying to do
> this with the mouse, I use a layer and a cell inside a layer to position

the

> image, but it is the same result!

Well, what are you going to use? Divs or frames? Again, there doesn't seem
to be any valid reason to be using frames here. Save yourself the headache.

BUT, to answer your question, you've set up all your frames with absolute
sizes. At least one frame in each frame set has to be set to * if you want
the others to remain rigid. Since you've set them all to be a specific size,
when the browser resizes, it simply adjusts each one individually to
accomodate things.

> How can I use frames precisely and easyly in
> dreamweaver? Or i can only do that by coding?

If you don't understand how frames work, and, especially if you don't
understand HTML, you're going to find frustration no matter what you do.

But, again, to fix this particular problem, you will need to set at least
one frame in each frameset to '*'. You can do this in DW or in code
view...doesn't really matter. However, not to sound like a broken record,
but I'd dump the frameset alltogether and stick with a table for now.

-Darrel

[[Mercurius]]

Yes, your right, I viewed it against a black background. But this is no excuse
the top of the image to overlap with the first image. I replaced the image with
a black triangle with no colors no effects and nothing, everything is black and
its the same hieght and width. And it still overlaps the top banner. I am no
HTML coder and this is my first time to use dreamweaver, someone said to use
notepad, but I find the streamline work easyer and the html editor is great. So
your right, im gonna use div (whatever that is, I am reading a book Dreamweaver
MX 2004 Bible, hope it's good). Div is something related to CSS, so I can set
attributes from CSS directly, or div is simply a table?

[SteveTV]

I am redisigning a website for a client and the preexisting site is created
with frames. Prob is I am really inexperienced with working in frames.

Should I maybe consider my redesign with no frames?

Is ther an easy way to keep the site somewhat the same, get rid of frames and
then redisign???


If anyone has insight I would apreciate it!
Thanks