> > > diehards like me that are.
> > > thanks for your participation.
> > John,
> > It's like with cars and accidents. It's not the car's fault, it's the
> > driver's.
> > Most people here don't hate frames at all. They don't like when
> > inexperienced people think the use of a frameset is a shortcut to
> > achieve what they want, and they don't realize the multitude of problems
> > they will encounter later on. But on top of that, it's extremely
> > annoying when you give advice to a newbie to trash the frameset idea,
> > they refuse (since it appear to be such an easy way to work) and then
> > they're back here after a month asking how to make two frames change in
> > one click and why their drop down menu in the top frame is cut off.
> > So, it's not the framesets that are bad. It's the user's unawareness.
> > Heck, I even use a frameset in my own site....
> > BTW: Try making a frameset validate (W3C) and also actually *work* in
> > e.g. IE, and you'll have another reason for insanity....
> > --
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