G3 Wall Street Li-Ion Battery Problem

[Noah Liberman]

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery
icon on the desktop menu. This happened after I'd bumped the computer
accidentally, but not violently, against a doorway while it was in my
shoulder bag. (Insert joke here.) I called the battery maker and they were
doubtful a blow to the battery would scramble it, saying the contents are
solid and not easily scramble-able. I wonder. I tried the old "Battery
Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries.
Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the
bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas
for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Noah Liberman
[email]noahl@noahl.com[/email]

[Henry]

Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:

> I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
> machine stopped recognizing the battery

> Any ideas
> for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?

cheers,

Henry

[Noah Liberman]

yes, several times! no luck.

in article 1fyvndm.1bjv409ae6728N%henry999@eircom.net, Henry at
[email]henry999@eircom.net[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 1:23 PM:

> Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:
>

>> I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
>> machine stopped recognizing the battery

>

>> Any ideas
>> for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

>
> Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?
>
> cheers,
>
> Henry

[John Johnson]

In article <BB4C68AD.87E5%noahl@noahl.com>,
Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:

> in article 1fyvndm.1bjv409ae6728N%henry999@eircom.net, Henry at
> [email]henry999@eircom.net[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 1:23 PM:
>

> > Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:
> >

> >> I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
> >> machine stopped recognizing the battery

> >

> >> Any ideas
> >> for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

> >
> > Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Henry

>
> yes, several times! no luck.
>

You might check the contacts, both on the battery and in the 'Book. If
you aren't getting solid contact, you might get similar symptoms. Or the
battery might be loose in the bay.

Just how hard did you bump the computer, anyway?

--
later.

johajohn AT indianahoosiers DOT edu

Remove the adjective to reply. Indiana is a noun.

[Pat Janes]

In article <BB4C2124.874E%noahl@noahl.com>,
Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:

> I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
> machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery
> icon on the desktop menu.....I tried the old "Battery
> Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries.
> Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the
> bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas
> for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the
Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

[url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655[/url]

[Noah Liberman]

yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was
created in 1999.

in article [email]cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat
Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

> In article <BB4C2124.874E%noahl@noahl.com>,
> Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:
>

>> I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the
>> machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery
>> icon on the desktop menu.....I tried the old "Battery
>> Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries.
>> Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the
>> bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas
>> for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

>
> There is a battery reset application made specifically for the
> Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.
>
> [url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655[/url]

[Pat Janes]

> in article [email]cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat

> Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

> >
> > There is a battery reset application made specifically for the
> > Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.
> >
> > [url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655[/url]

In article <BB4DB842.8896%noahl@noahl.com>,
Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:

> yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was
> created in 1999.

I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The
Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all
of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997)
has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

[Noah Liberman]

Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the
Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the
installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the
Battery Updater element does not appear in my Extensions folder, or anywhere
else on the computer. I wonder if this is preventing Reset from completing
the job?

Maybe someone could e-mail me the Battery Updater extension for a G3 (not
the iBook Battery Updater!). Thank you.




in article [email]cwnarf-A4F569.21091530072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat
Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/30/03 6:39 PM:

>> in article [email]cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat
>> Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

>>>
>>> There is a battery reset application made specifically for the
>>> Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.
>>>
>>> [url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655[/url]

>
>
> In article <BB4DB842.8896%noahl@noahl.com>,
> Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:
>

>> yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was
>> created in 1999.

>
>
> I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The
> Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all
> of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997)
> has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

[Donald Smith]

Le 31/07/03 05:08, dans BB4DF29E.EB77%noahl@noahl.com, «*Noah Liberman*»
<noahl@noahl.com> a écrit*:

> Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the
> Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the
> installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the
> Battery Updater element does not appear in my Extensions folder, or anywhere
> else on the computer. I wonder if this is preventing Reset from completing
> the job?
>
> Maybe someone could e-mail me the Battery Updater extension for a G3 (not
> the iBook Battery Updater!). Thank you.
>
>
>
>
> in article [email]cwnarf-A4F569.21091530072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat
> Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/30/03 6:39 PM:
>

>>> in article [email]cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net[/email], Pat
>>> Janes at [email]cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg[/email] wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:
>>>>
>>>> There is a battery reset application made specifically for the
>>>> Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655[/url]

>>
>>
>> In article <BB4DB842.8896%noahl@noahl.com>,
>> Noah Liberman <noahl@noahl.com> wrote:
>>

>>> yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was
>>> created in 1999.

>>
>>
>> I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The
>> Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all
>> of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997)
>> has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

>

another common problem: the screws under the battery must be just right, not
to tight, not too loose, try this, it cured my problem

[Lewin A.R.W. Edwards]

> Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the

> Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the
> installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the

Check: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60665&sessionID=anonymous%7C18 729084&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com%3a80%2f>

Basically, the extension was rolled into OS 9. "PowerBook G3 Series
owners with Mac OS 9 installed may still want to install the Battery
Reset 2.0 software to get the Battery Reset application. This
application will reset a battery which may have been damaged in a
certain way. The Battery Reset application is not needed, and will not
work on an iBook or PowerBook (FireWire) computer."