getting an indesign file to be black

[seriousting@gmail.com]

I am the design editor for a magazine that has a color cover and
back-cover and black and white inside pages. After creating it and
sending it the the printers they say I have color pages inside and they
want me to make it black. As far as i can see it is all black. One
trouble I'm having too is getting the text to be k100 every-time i
change it it goes back to c69 m68 y64 k74 I guess this is the same
thing but they don't want the color. How do I change it to k100 and
have it stay there.
As I look through the file I also see that some of the grayscale images
I placed in the file are RGB. How did this happen, and is there a way
to undo it without going through all the images again.

I would be grateful for any help. Keep in mind I have little idea what
I'm doing.

Thank you,
Michael

[mhari@ihug.com.au]

[email]seriousting@gmail.com[/email] wrote:

> I am the design editor for a magazine that has a color cover and
> back-cover and black and white inside pages. After creating it and
> sending it the the printers they say I have color pages inside and they
> want me to make it black. As far as i can see it is all black. One
> trouble I'm having too is getting the text to be k100 every-time i
> change it it goes back to c69 m68 y64 k74 I guess this is the same
> thing but they don't want the color. How do I change it to k100 and
> have it stay there.
> As I look through the file I also see that some of the grayscale images
> I placed in the file are RGB. How did this happen, and is there a way
> to undo it without going through all the images again.
>
> I would be grateful for any help. Keep in mind I have little idea what
> I'm doing.
>
> Thank you,
> Michael

Hi Michael,

The text colour you mentioned sounds like an rgb black. If you click
on the text that is this colour, have a look at what swatch is
highlighted in the swatches pallete. You can just drag this swatch to
the trash and when prompted, replace it with the black swatch. Now all
the items that were the wrong colour are black only.

You should check throught the document with the separations preview
(Window >output> separation preview) before you send it to the
printers.

There is also a preflight option in the file menu that will tell you if
you have any rgbs.

For the photos, I would take them into photoshop and convert to
greyscale.

Good luck,
Mhari

[seriousting@gmail.com]

Mrahi,

I did get rid of the RGB Blck and did as you siad while trying to
firgure it out, but the text shows the black text in the swatch and the
colour picker it shows c69 m68 y64 k74. Is this the same thing? But the
printer wants black and not the colors.

As far as the pictures they started out as grayscale JPG's when I
placed them. Do I need to go back and place them all again? How do I
keep the same thing for happening again?

Thank you again,
Michael

[mhari@ihug.com.au]

Hi Michael,

If that doesn't work, I am confused. Just to get it straight, It was
the indesign file you gave the printer, not a pdf? The only way I can
think of a placed greyscale image changing to rgb is when the document
is converted to a pdf. Are any rgb colours showing in your swatches
pallette after you go 'select all unused', or are they showing cmyk?
Did you type the text or import from word?

Mhari

[seriousting@gmail.com]

The printer doesn't have indeesign so I gave them a PDF. I threw away
all the RGB swatches already. The text is all imported from word.

michael

[mhari@ihug.com.au]

[email]seriousting@gmail.com[/email] wrote:

> The printer doesn't have indeesign so I gave them a PDF. I threw away
> all the RGB swatches already. The text is all imported from word.
>
> michael

You didn't mention this in your original post! :) So when you mentioned
the colour values, you were getting this from acrobat? Sounds like you
are making an rgb pdf, you need to look at your pdf export settings.
Try making a 'print quality' pdf and specifying 'no colour conversion'
in the output tab.

Mhari