.GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

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    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    Dan, Publisher 2003 loads slowly...you can read more about that on David
    Bartosik's site, but here is a quote from one of his posts about a month
    ago:

    There is a
    very short list of things you can do in 2003 to try and make a difference so
    I'll list them and you can take it from there.

    Turn off the vml and the png options.

    Do not insert original images into the pub page and then resize it. Instead
    use images already saved as a smaller size and in a web resolution (96dpi).
    In your case this would be easy, just go to your 98 publish folder and grab
    those publisher image copies and turn around and insert those into the 2003
    pages.
    Reason for this is that in earlier versions Pub made a copy of the inserted
    image making the copy the size of the frame and a lower resolution. 2003
    does not, it maintains the full image for fidelity in IE. Just compare the
    contents of the images folder between the two versions to see this.

    Don't get to "fancy". Use the default white background rather then images.
    Keep the page short and minimize the use of images, if need be just spread
    them out across more pages rather then dumping several on one. By no means
    use sound files.




    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]

    "dan5606" <dan5606@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AC6EDDC2-80F9-4B61-8193-F0E0E51437A8@microsoft.com...
    > I am using Publisher 2003.
    >
    > I have taken all images from my site and resized them. They are all 96 dpi
    and about 4X3 inches and saved as .GIF files that range in size from 13 to
    130 KB with occasional larger ones. Once in publisher, I shrunk the size
    even more on the majority of them.
    >
    > The site still takes too long to load, is there anything else I can do.
    Has Microsoft given up on dial-up? (there is nothing other than text and
    links that would bog it down, it's really a simple site, about 30 pages:
    images, text, links)
    >
    > I notice that the files that Publisher published include sets of
    duplicates of all the images that were .JPG files that ranged from 5 to 18
    KB. I was under the assumption that .JPG files were larger than .GIF files.
    (which is why I saved mine as .GIFs)
    >
    > I have also noticed published image .PNGs of images that I have long ago
    deleted. Also an .AVI file I linked to but then deleted. It was published as
    a . WMZ. Why are deleted files still being published?
    >
    > Can I delete unused files (like those .GIFs, .PNGs, and the .WMZ) from my
    server without corrupting the flow of the site? They take up some room and
    may be bogging down the site somehow.
    >
    > thanks for the help and sorry for the long question. wanted to get you all
    the info.
    > Dan

    DavidF Guest

  2. #2

    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    Are you certain that deleted stuff is being published?
    I'd suspect that you are not deleting all the files off the server first
    before a new publish and thus old stuff still sits out there, regardless of
    what you pulled off the pub file.

    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    enter to win Pub 2003:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]


    "dan5606" <dan5606@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AC6EDDC2-80F9-4B61-8193-F0E0E51437A8@microsoft.com...
    > I am using Publisher 2003.
    >
    > I have taken all images from my site and resized them. They are all 96 dpi
    and about 4X3 inches and saved as .GIF files that range in size from 13 to
    130 KB with occasional larger ones. Once in publisher, I shrunk the size
    even more on the majority of them.
    >
    > The site still takes too long to load, is there anything else I can do.
    Has Microsoft given up on dial-up? (there is nothing other than text and
    links that would bog it down, it's really a simple site, about 30 pages:
    images, text, links)
    >
    > I notice that the files that Publisher published include sets of
    duplicates of all the images that were .JPG files that ranged from 5 to 18
    KB. I was under the assumption that .JPG files were larger than .GIF files.
    (which is why I saved mine as .GIFs)
    >
    > I have also noticed published image .PNGs of images that I have long ago
    deleted. Also an .AVI file I linked to but then deleted. It was published as
    a . WMZ. Why are deleted files still being published?
    >
    > Can I delete unused files (like those .GIFs, .PNGs, and the .WMZ) from my
    server without corrupting the flow of the site? They take up some room and
    may be bogging down the site somehow.
    >
    > thanks for the help and sorry for the long question. wanted to get you all
    the info.
    > Dan

    David Bartosik - MS MVP Guest

  3. #3

    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    I would bet you are correct, David. However, those files should not slow
    anything down since they are not being called by the current version of the
    page, no? Deleting them is a good housekeeping practice, but they should have
    no real effect.

    Syd

    On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:59:37 -0500, "David Bartosik - MS MVP"
    <forums@davidbartosik.com> wrote:
    >Are you certain that deleted stuff is being published?
    >I'd suspect that you are not deleting all the files off the server first
    >before a new publish and thus old stuff still sits out there, regardless of
    >what you pulled off the pub file.
    analog@logwell.com Guest

  4. #4

    Default RE: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    Are you guys done with this question?

    I just re-saved as .HTM to check the size of my published files and to see if I was dreaming about the deleted images.

    The .GIF - .JPG duplication did not happen. It published most of them as .GIFs with the occasional .PNG. The deleted files showed up again. I am not dreaming.

    I realize this is an area that I do not need to really know about to get my web site up, but I am confused about how Publisher picks file types to publish images as. It seems like you could save the same document as .HTM any number of different times and come up with different published files each time.
    -Dan
    dan5606 Guest

  5. #5

    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    Your last sentence is true. It is hard to understand it's inner process.

    As far as your concern about deleted images you are welcome to send me your
    pub file with an explanation and I'll review it.

    --
    David Bartosik - MS MVP
    for Publisher help:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com[/url]
    enter to win Pub 2003:
    [url]www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx[/url]


    "dan5606" <dan5606@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:C3FB79FF-F5EF-4C12-B385-564DE9F8276C@microsoft.com...
    > Are you guys done with this question?
    >
    > I just re-saved as .HTM to check the size of my published files and to see
    if I was dreaming about the deleted images.
    >
    > The .GIF - .JPG duplication did not happen. It published most of them as
    ..GIFs with the occasional .PNG. The deleted files showed up again. I am not
    dreaming.
    >
    > I realize this is an area that I do not need to really know about to get
    my web site up, but I am confused about how Publisher picks file types to
    publish images as. It seems like you could save the same document as .HTM
    any number of different times and come up with different published files
    each time.
    > -Dan

    David Bartosik MS MVP Guest

  6. #6

    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG

    email to address shown in headers.

    "dan5606" <dan5606@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:3DE1394A-791D-4CAA-95DE-C7A6F59158AC@microsoft.com...
    > How will I send it to you?

    David Bartosik MS MVP Guest

  7. #7

    Default Re: .GIF vs .JPG vs .PNG


    David,
    Thanks for the offer, but the pub doc is about 28 MG. Cannot email it.
    I have posted another question as I have kind of given up on the deleted file because if it becomes an issue I will just delete them from the server or before I upload them and I think it will be fine.

    -Dan
    dan5606 Guest

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