Good rentable servers?

[bsdnooby]

Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places that
have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to all be
$99 a month.

Is there a cheaper or better option? Maybe a virtualized server or a jail?

thx!



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[Uwe Doering]

bsdnooby wrote:

>
> Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
> machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
> dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
> email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places that
> have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to all be
> $99 a month.
>
> Is there a cheaper or better option? Maybe a virtualized server or a jail?

There are indeed less expensive solutions available. For instance, you
may want to take a look at my signature below. ;-)

Uwe
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[Pat Maddox]

I rent a server from [url]www.layeredtech.com[/url] They've been great so far.
I'm not sure what exactly you need - it's obviously different if
you're hosting a couple sites versus just having a machine to play
with. The cheapest server they've got is $65/mo, though you might be
able to talk em down a couple more bucks. You could also try getting
a VPS from a place like servint, and have them install FreeBSD for
you.

Check out [url]www.webhostingtalk.com[/url] You can ask some questions there
and get great responses as to your various options.


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:12:21 +0100, Uwe Doering <gemini@geminix.org> wrote:

> bsdnooby wrote:

> >
> > Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
> > machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
> > dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
> > email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places that
> > have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to all be
> > $99 a month.
> >
> > Is there a cheaper or better option? Maybe a virtualized server or a jail?

>
> There are indeed less expensive solutions available. For instance, you
> may want to take a look at my signature below. ;-)
>
> Uwe
> --
> Uwe Doering | EscapeBox - Managed On-Demand UNIX Servers
> [email]gemini@geminix.org[/email] | [url]http://www.escapebox.net[/url]
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[Darren Henderson]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, bsdnooby wrote:

>
> Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy machine
> running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a dedicated
> FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB, email, listserv,
> and a few other services. I found several places that have dedicated FreeBSD
> machines to rent, their prices seems to all be $99 a month.
>
> Is there a cheaper or better option? Maybe a virtualized server or a jail?

If that is all you want to do then just go to a hosting service -
[url]www.pair.com[/url] would be my recommendation. They use FreeBSD exclusively,
support the open source world in general and FreeBSD in paticular. An
account to do the kinds of things you mention would be about $18/month.

-Darren



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[John]

On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 02:44:01AM -0500, bsdnooby wrote:

>
> Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
> machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
> dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
> email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places that
> have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to all be
> $99 a month.

Would it really need to be DEDICATED? Many ISP's offer virtualized
servers - the hardware would be shared with other virtual domains.
I don't know what all services you need, but web and e-mail certainly
can work in the virtualized environment.

Check it out - see if it is for you - I know that SkyPoint used
to offer this when I worked for them ([url]www.skypoint.net[/url]).
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[Doug Poland]

On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:13:29AM -0600, John wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 02:44:01AM -0500, bsdnooby wrote:

> >
> > Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
> > machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
> > dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
> > email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places that
> > have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to all be
> > $99 a month.

>
> Would it really need to be DEDICATED? Many ISP's offer virtualized
> servers - the hardware would be shared with other virtual domains.
> I don't know what all services you need, but web and e-mail certainly
> can work in the virtualized environment.
>
> Check it out - see if it is for you - I know that SkyPoint used
> to offer this when I worked for them ([url]www.skypoint.net[/url]).
>

Here's another company that offers FreeBSD virtual servers:

[url]http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html[/url]

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Regards,
Doug

[dick hoogendijk]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:34:47 -0600
Doug Poland <doug@polands.org> wrote:

> Here's another company that offers FreeBSD virtual servers:
>
> [url]http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html[/url]

The last few days I get a lot of mail from this list *twice*
Anybody ideas what's happening?
It's only on this list..

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[bsdnooby]

dick hoogendijk wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:34:47 -0600
>Doug Poland <doug@polands.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>

>>Here's another company that offers FreeBSD virtual servers:
>>
>> [url]http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html[/url]
>>
>>

>
>The last few days I get a lot of mail from this list *twice*
>Anybody ideas what's happening?
>It's only on this list..
>
>
>

I get 6 copies of each message I post, and any resonses to them. I
thought it was just me.


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[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Feb 21, 2005, at 12:44 AM, bsdnooby wrote:

>
> Instead of getting a fixed IP address at my house, and having a noisy
> machine running all the time - I think I might want to try renting a
> dedicated FreeBSD server. It would be used for running Apache, phpBB,
> email, listserv, and a few other services. I found several places
> that have dedicated FreeBSD machines to rent, their prices seems to
> all be $99 a month.
>
> Is there a cheaper or better option? Maybe a virtualized server or a
> jail?

Whatever you do, make sure that the server you get has redundancies
built into it -- redundant power supplies, mirrored disks, ECC RAM etc.
These are thing things that keep your machine up and running even when
there are failures. They separate the crap servers from the
professional ones.

Chad

[Kevin Kinsey]

bsdnooby wrote:

> dick hoogendijk wrote:
>

>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:34:47 -0600
>> Doug Poland <doug@polands.org> wrote:
>>

>>> Here's another company that offers FreeBSD virtual servers:
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html[/url]
>>>

>>
>>
>> The last few days I get a lot of mail from this list *twice*
>> Anybody ideas what's happening?
>> It's only on this list..
>>

> I get 6 copies of each message I post, and any resonses to them. I
> thought it was just me.

In your case, it's most likely the fact that you shotgunned
your "rentable servers" message to 2 seperate FreeBSD
mailing lists.

Now, on said lists, the standard practice is to "reply all" so
that the OP is cc'ed whether or not he/she is subscribed
to the list.

If anyone leaves the reply fields as assigned, then, you'll
receive 3 or 4 replies to the 2 messages you sent.

Then, the larger problem: it appears that "bsdnerds.com"
is mirroring list traffic back to the list --- check this out
(partially snipped, telltale lines are about halfway down):

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Kevin Kinsey

[Kevin Kinsey]

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

> Then, the larger problem: it appears that "bsdnerds.com"
> is mirroring list traffic back to the list --- check this out
> (partially snipped, telltale lines are about halfway down):
>
> Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119])
> by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j1L7jUhM023082
> for <kdk@daleco.biz>; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:45:30 -0600 (CST)
> (envelope-from [email]owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org[/email])
> Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18])
> by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id 4F7F65701D; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:45:24 +0000 (GMT)
> (envelope-from [email]owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org[/email])
> Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id BA37C16A524; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:45:09 +0000 (GMT)
> Delivered-To: [email]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org[/email]
> Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
> by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id E0D3116A4CF; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:45:00 +0000 (GMT)
> Received: from bsdnerds.org (pcp0011384308pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net
> [69.248.83.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id 440DD43D46; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:45:00 +0000 (GMT)
> (envelope-from [email]owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org[/email])
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> for <chandra@bsdnerds.org>; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 02:45:04 -0500 (EST)

A correction, the TLD of the "offending" <?> mailserver is "org",
not "com". An honest mistake on my part, with no intent to defame
"bsdnerds.com". (nor really "bsdnerds.org" either, but something's
up in the mail config there, I'm thinking...)

KDK

[bsdnooby]

Thank you for all the feedback, everyone. I have plenty of good leads
to follow up on now.

thx!




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[Dick Hoogendijk]

On 21 Feb bsdnooby wrote:

>
> Thank you for all the feedback, everyone. I have plenty of good leads
> to follow up on now.

Yeah sure, but all this stuff about misconfigured mailservers does not
answer my original "question" or does it? Are there more people who
should check their config?

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[bsdnooby]

Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

>On 21 Feb bsdnooby wrote:
>
>

>>Thank you for all the feedback, everyone. I have plenty of good leads
>>to follow up on now.
>>
>>

>
>Yeah sure, but all this stuff about misconfigured mailservers does not
>answer my original "question" or does it? Are there more people who
>should check their config?
>
>
>

If you mean me, I am trying not to send my emails to more than one list
now. My Thunderbird doesn't have a "Reply to Group" option, so I am
also now choosing "Reply All" and removing the original posters name so
only the group gets the email. Thunderbird has a "Reply" (to sender)
and "Reply All" (to sender and group), I wish it had a "Reply Group"
option. Sorry about this.



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