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Hello, everyone. I recently configured a Dell PC using PartitionMagic and BootMagic to allow either the booting of Windows XP Professional or Red Hat Linux 9.0. I used Partition Magic 8.0 to set up EXT3 partitions for RH 9.0. During the RH 9.0 install from CD I elected to have Grub installed in the /boot directory rather than the MBR since I am using BootMagic. BootMagic is launched fine and I can choose either OS to boot. If I choose Linux, I next obtain the Grub screen. This is redundant. I would like to keep BootMagic on the MBR and ...

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    Default Grub & BootMagic

    Hello, everyone. I recently configured a Dell PC using PartitionMagic and
    BootMagic to allow either the booting of Windows XP Professional or Red
    Hat Linux 9.0. I used Partition Magic 8.0 to set up EXT3 partitions for
    RH 9.0. During the RH 9.0 install from CD I elected to have Grub
    installed in the /boot directory rather than the MBR since I am using
    BootMagic. BootMagic is launched fine and I can choose either OS to
    boot. If I choose Linux, I next obtain the Grub screen. This is
    redundant. I would like to keep BootMagic on the MBR and eliminate Grub.
    Does anyone know the solution? Thanks for your time and comment.
    Sincerely,

    John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: nrl.navy.mil
    Naval Research Laboratory
    4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
    Washington, DC 20375-5337
    J. Guest

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    J. B. Wood wrote:
     

    .... tell bootmagic to boot Linux directly. (btw, i tried
    bootmagic and DID NOT like it. i use either system commander
    or grub)
    ..
    --
    /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
    \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
    It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.

    mjt Guest

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    Default Re: Grub & BootMagic

    "J. B. Wood" wrote: 

    Edit /boot/grub/grub.conf:

    timeout=0
    hiddenmenu

    /dan
    Daniel Guest

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    Default Re: Grub & BootMagic

    On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:56:41 -0400, in article
    <itd.nrl.navy.mil>, J. B. Wood wrote:

    First, a disclaimer: I'm not a GRUB expert.
     

    I'm not sure of the official terminology for GRUB, but there may be (are?)
    two meanings for "install GRUB":

    * you put GRUB's files in /boot
    * you put GRUB's boot loader in sector 0 of a Linux partition
     

    Here's the question:

    Can BootMagic boot a Linux kernel directly or does it rely on
    the presence of another bootloader, such as LILO or GRUB?

    If it can't boot a Linux kernel directly, you still need an additional
    package (e.g., GRUB or LILO.)
     

    If what you really want to do is bypass the menu selection and have it
    "just boot", I think one of these will do:

    * Configure GRUB so that it saves a default boot entry ("savedefault")
    and make sure that default is saved -- you'll have to boot through
    GRUB one more time if you haven't previously done this. Then set
    GRUB's "default" to "saved"; and "timeout" to "0". You may have
    to experiment some. I just tested it on my system, with these
    configuration items, and it works on MY system:

    # STUFF I COPIED FROM NEAR THE TOP OF /boot/grub/menu.lst
    default saved
    timeout 0

    # STUFF I COPIED FROM NEAR THE END OF /boot/grub/menu.lst
    title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-20031018a
    root (hd0,2)
    kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.22-20031018a root=/dev/hda9 ro
    savedefault

    I had booted the "20031018a" entry previously, so it was already
    the saved default.

    * Install LILO; it can be configured to do the same thing.

    In either case, you're still going through a secondary bootloader.
    However, you don't have to make a selection manually and the added boot
    time is very small.

    With LILO, you can hold down the [Shift] key just before it loads and get a
    menu anyway; this is useful if something goes wrong or you want to boot a
    non-default entry. I don't know if GRUB has a similar feature.
    Jules Guest

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    Default Re: Grub & BootMagic

    On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:56:41 -0400,
    J. B. Wood <nrl.navy.mil> wrote: 

    While I'm not familiar with PM or BM, I doubt they allow you to pass
    parameters to the kernel, which is ocassionally useful. It may make
    upgrading the kernel a bit of a nuisance as well.

    With your setup Grub (or Lilo) is more than adequate, but if you must
    use BootMagic, follow the advice of the poster that suggests you set the
    timeout to zero in Grub. It will make things much easier for you in the
    future.

    Michael C.
    --
    com http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/
    Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/


    Michael Guest

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    Default Re: Grub & BootMagic

    In article <com>, Daniel Ganek <com> wrote:
     
    >
    > Edit /boot/grub/grub.conf:
    >
    > timeout=0
    > hiddenmenu
    >
    > /dan[/ref]

    Hello, and thanks to all for the timely replies. Dan's suggestion took
    care of the problem. Sincerely,

    John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: nrl.navy.mil
    Naval Research Laboratory
    4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
    Washington, DC 20375-5337
    J. Guest

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