h2xs mess

[Sisyphus]

<kspecial@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
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> My name is Noah. What i'm trying to figure out is how I can
> compile this module: Win32::Scheduler. Most modules can simply be
> inserted, be compiled (if you will) with a Makefile, or if there is
> not one made, h2xs.
>
> Now. H2xs is probably what i'm going to need *not quite sure.
> Check out how the file directory looks:
>
> ~\scheduler\blib\lib\Win32:
> --> Scheduler.PM
> --> Scheduler(Directory)
> \Scheduler:
> -->CopyJobs.pl
> -->TEST.PL
> -->Win32-Scheduler.ppd
> -->TIE_Scheduler.xpp
> -->TIE_Task.xpp
> -->CONSTANT.CPP
> -->Scheduler.cpp
> -->TIE_Task.cpp
> -->TIEFunctions.cpp
> -->CONSTANT.H
> -->Scheduler.hpp
> -->SchedulerBuild.h
> -->VERSION.H
> -->Scheduler.dsp
> -->Scheduler.dsw
> -->Scheduler.def
> -->win32perl.h
> -->CUString.lib
> -->CUString.hpp
> <EOF>-----------------------------------<EOF>
>
> Quite UGLY I might add, but as you can see i have tried to
> spiff it up for whomever may be reading.
>
> So. ANY clues or small hint's (weeny) would be helpfull.
> Thank you.
>

These are (I'm told) MSVC++ Project Files - and you can build the module as
a "Project" in the MSVC++ IDE (which I rarely use, and know little about).
You can presumably do the same using command line arguments, if you know how
to go about it. I tried to build his Net::Daemon (mainly for the exercise),
but kept getting the message that "*** No perl was found", and couldn't work
out what to do about that. After a few attempts I decided I'd give up
*before* I threw a brick thru the monitor.

Apparently this is the way Dave builds his modules - and this is the only
source he provides. I don't like it any more than you do (especially the
absence of a 'readme' to tell us what we need to do), but we've really got
no grounds for complaint. We can simply install the ppm that he kindly
provides.

Cheers,
Rob

[kspecial@linuxmail.org]

"Sisyphus" <kalinabears@hdc.com.au> wrote in message news:<3f0a4fc9$0$414@echo-01.iinet.net.au>...

> <kspecial@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> news:365f784f.0307071452.5ab8221b@posting.google.c om...

> > My name is Noah. What i'm trying to figure out is how I can
> > compile this module: Win32::Scheduler. Most modules can simply be
> > inserted, be compiled (if you will) with a Makefile, or if there is
> > not one made, h2xs.
> >
> > Now. H2xs is probably what i'm going to need *not quite sure.
> > Check out how the file directory looks:
> >
> > ~\scheduler\blib\lib\Win32:
> > --> Scheduler.PM
> > --> Scheduler(Directory)
> > \Scheduler:
> > -->CopyJobs.pl
> > -->TEST.PL
> > -->Win32-Scheduler.ppd
> > -->TIE_Scheduler.xpp
> > -->TIE_Task.xpp
> > -->CONSTANT.CPP
> > -->Scheduler.cpp
> > -->TIE_Task.cpp
> > -->TIEFunctions.cpp
> > -->CONSTANT.H
> > -->Scheduler.hpp
> > -->SchedulerBuild.h
> > -->VERSION.H
> > -->Scheduler.dsp
> > -->Scheduler.dsw
> > -->Scheduler.def
> > -->win32perl.h
> > -->CUString.lib
> > -->CUString.hpp
> > <EOF>-----------------------------------<EOF>
> >
> > Quite UGLY I might add, but as you can see i have tried to
> > spiff it up for whomever may be reading.
> >
> > So. ANY clues or small hint's (weeny) would be helpfull.
> > Thank you.
> >

>
> These are (I'm told) MSVC++ Project Files - and you can build the module as
> a "Project" in the MSVC++ IDE (which I rarely use, and know little about).
> You can presumably do the same using command line arguments, if you know how
> to go about it. I tried to build his Net::Daemon (mainly for the exercise),
> but kept getting the message that "*** No perl was found", and couldn't work
> out what to do about that. After a few attempts I decided I'd give up
> *before* I threw a brick thru the monitor.
>
> Apparently this is the way Dave builds his modules - and this is the only
> source he provides. I don't like it any more than you do (especially the
> absence of a 'readme' to tell us what we need to do), but we've really got
> no grounds for complaint. We can simply install the ppm that he kindly
> provides.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob

So did you give up before you literly through a brick thru the
monitor, or give up *before* you would have thrown a brick through the
monitor? I can't give up.

What you say sound's basicly correct. MSVC++ IDE might get expensive
although it sounds like a great idea that I may have to resort to. I
was realy hoping there was a way I could go about all of this (or find
someone that has) using the commandline, i.e H2xs.

BTW WTF is Net::Daemon, it might be better for my situation... Sound's
sort of linux like though.

But when in despair don't (always) pull out your hair.

--K-sPecial (I'll figure something out)

P.S if ANYONE has ever compiled this. Let me know.


--K-sPecial

[Sisyphus]

<kspecial@linuxmail.org> wrote in message

>
> So did you give up before you literly through a brick thru the
> monitor, or give up *before* you would have thrown a brick through the
> monitor? I can't give up.
>

I'm having trouble reading this ........ someone's wedged a bloody brick in
the middle of the screen .... and it's obscuring some of the text :-)

Can't you install with ppm - or simply download the ppm package and manually
place the files in the correct location ?
It's probably only a matter of copying the '.pm' file and the '.dll' file to
the appropriate perl folders.

> What you say sound's basicly correct. MSVC++ IDE might get expensive
> although it sounds like a great idea that I may have to resort to.

You can get a 'Standard Edition' for about $US 60.00. But it won't optimise
code. If you build perl using such a compiler, you'll find it to be about
1.6 times slower than a perl built with an optimising compiler. For building
modules it probably doesn't matter that much. (There are some other
deficiencies with the standard edition as well - eg debugging capability.)

> I
> was realy hoping there was a way I could go about all of this (or find
> someone that has) using the commandline, i.e H2xs.
>

No matter how you go about building it, at some point you'll need a
compiler.

> BTW WTF is Net::Daemon, it might be better for my situation... Sound's
> sort of linux like though.
>

Sorry .... should've explained. Net::Daemon (I think I got the name right)
is another module by the author of Win32::Scheduler. The source for all of
his modules are in the form of Visual Studio Project Files - which, as I
said, is apparently the way the author builds these modules.

See [url]http://www.roth.net/perl/packages/[/url] (which is currently down) for a
list/description of his modules.

> But when in despair don't (always) pull out your hair.
>
> --K-sPecial (I'll figure something out)
>
> P.S if ANYONE has ever compiled this. Let me know.
>

I received an email recently from a guy who built it for perl 5.6 using the
Visual Studio IDE. (He couldn't get it to work for perl 5.8.) He was unable
to offer much in terms of building using command line switches, and I've got
little interest in messing around with the IDE, so we didn't take the
discussion any further.

In my attempts I did get around the 'no perl was found error', but then
received complaints that some of the header files contained syntax errors -
which had me quickly looking around for another brick.

I have this idea that it might be possible to combine the '.cpp' source
files into one source file, and compile the module with Inline::CPP.
*If* it worked, this wouldn't be a lot of trouble to go to .... but, for the
moment at least, I can't be stuffed testing it out. Given that ppm's exist,
the only point of doing it would be as a recreational exercise, and there's
no point in doing recreational exercises if they are going to cause nothing
but extreme frustration :-)

Cheers,
Rob

[kspecial@linuxmail.org]

Hey bud, I hope this is the usenet group you refered that you would be
posting the same email you sent me on. Here we go.


Hello,

I give you mad props for even trying to install that fuckin thing
(I feel ya)

2 things.

1) I contacted the auther and got an Response, him telling me that the
only reason it was ever made is to prove it can be done and that no
auther (programmer) has ever gone as far yet as to finish it (or
help).

2) He gave me another module that has been finished, to check out.
Hold on i'll have to look what it was.
[url]www.sourceforge.com/projects/taskscheduler[/url].

--K-sPecial

P.S

I plan on causing complete frustration.