High Rez images in current Pagemaker files being reduced in rez when brought into InDesign . . ??

[M._A._Hicks@adobeforums.com]

Just loaded the new InDesign program onto my system this morning. I currently have THOUSANDS of pagemaker 7.0 files that are archived on my network. Knowing that Pagemaker is being phased out shortly . . . I was directed towards InDesign as the next generation program for my needs.

I currently have files that have embeded photos and drawing in each file. These are all HIGH REZ images and the file is saved as so. Once saved the original image files are not saved and discarded. The master Pagemaker File is then saved and archived.

This morning I attempted to open an existing Pagemaker file with InDesign software . . . the images and text blocks all appeared aligned ok but the image resolution had been reduced way down to what looks like 72 dpi or less. I have looked for a setting of drop down box in order to maintain the original graphic resolution but have not seen one yet.

Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated . . . Mark

PS . . . in the original images (Pagemaker files) . . . all photos are saved at 300 dpi . . . line drawings at 600 dpi.

[Brian]

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[Guy_Smiley@adobeforums.com]

I believe that when InDesign opens a Pagemaker file with embedded
graphics, it does not make use of the actual embedded graphic, but only
the screen preview. If this is indeed the case--others will chime in
with more certain information--then you will need to export the
embedded graphics from Pagemaker, and then link them back in to the
InDesign document.

[M._A._Hicks@adobeforums.com]

Sorry . . . does not work . . image is already reduced in DPI . . . seems it happend during the conversion.

[M._A._Hicks@adobeforums.com]

To export all the images (from Pagemaker). . . then reinsert the images into the new layout (InDesign). . . . ohhhhhhh my . . . the work you are asking is beyond belief . . . there has to be an other way . . ?? I am hoping . . :o)

[Bob_Levine]

No, there's not. Your prior workflow was incredibly flawed. My advice is
to leave them as PM docs and start new work in InDesign.

Bob

[Jim_Oblak@adobeforums.com]

The other way is to not embed photos. Embedded images in layout documents is traditionally an inefficient method of managing graphics.

I currently have files that have embeded photos




Can you explain why you embed images? The PageMaker manual has an entire chapter devoted to 'Importing, Linking, and Exporting'. There are some spectacular reasons why images should be linked and not embedded. You may have stumbled on to one of these reasons.

You lose a lot of versatility when you disassociate linked images and only embed them.

Just because PageMaker is discontinued does not mean that you need to stop using it. Keep it running for your existing documents and create new documents in InDesign.

[Bob_Levine]

Not only should images have been linked, for the life of me I can't
imagine the thought process that went into discarding the images.

Bob

[Gene_Manfra@adobeforums.com]

Bob,
Great answer. Telling someone his workflow was "flawed" is real helpful. You gave me similar "help" about a year ago when you advised me that "real professionals" don't use clip art when I complained that "my workflow" of using cut and paste of .wmf files worked very well in PageMaker but not in Adobe's flagship InDesign.
It's reassuring to see that your are dispensing the same pompous help.

[Bob_Levine]

> Bob,

> Great answer.

Why thank you. I stand by it.

I see you're still delivering incredible help here on a daily basis.

Now that the sarcasm is out of the way, I never said professionals don't
use clip art. I said that WMF is not a professional format. I stand by
that, too. I'm sure all of the regulars here and in the Pagemaker forums
will say the same thing. A full read of the FAQs will detail it also. It
didn't get put there because only one or two people had problems with WMFs.

I've given out a lot of help on these forums and it all comes with a
full money back guarantee. Where shall I send your refund.

Bob

[Jim_Oblak@adobeforums.com]

Let me pretend that I think Bob is a pompous jerk as well. What he said still holds true.

It is reckless to dispose of original graphics and trust that the mass of embedded images in a document layout will not become corrupted or useless at a later time. The PageMaker manual is very clear about how to place images.

Yes, WMF files have their place but if you are truly concerned about the quality of output, you would not touch them, especially by copying and pasting. Professionals are those that are concerned about the quality of their output. You don't need to be a professional designer to use these programs. Bob was giving a tip on how to be a professional.

Bob was addressing a flawed workflow, not a flawed person. These forums are to discuss software, not to make personal attacks on others.

[Gernot_Hoffmann@adobeforums.com]

A test:

PM6.5: New PM file, embed image 5.0 MB: 5.14 MB file size.
ID2.0: Open PM file, convert, save: 0.92 MB file size.

1. ID2.0 doesn´t use the correctly embedded image in PM6.5.

2. The ID file size is independent of the geometrical size
of the image on the PM page.

3. 0.92 MB is too large for a preview.

This is enigmatic and of course a bug. Embedding is not pro-
hibited.

Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

[Jim_Oblak@adobeforums.com]

Embedding is not prohibited




Embedding (or copying/pasting) was never prohibited - it is just not as wise as linking for reasons explained in the manuals.

[Bob_Levine]

> This is enigmatic and of course a bug. Embedding is not pro-

> hibited.

Any failure to properly convert a file from one format to another can
not, IMO, be called a bug. The fact that you can do it at all is simply
a way to avoid recreating from scratch.

As for embedding, nobody said it was prohibited, just unwise.

Bob

[Gernot_Hoffmann@adobeforums.com]

Sorry, I had deleted this phrase, because I thought it was
not necessary:
"yes yes I know that one shouldn´t embed - I´m never embedding".

Unfortunately there is no help for the OP, as far as I can see.
Therefore the test.

Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

[Bob_Levine]

> Unfortunately there is no help for the OP, as far as I can see.

Correct. The only thing that can provided is advice on future projects.

Bob