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How do I portect my webpage source code? - Macromedia Dreamweaver

How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be viewed or downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] and right-click on any page, select "view source", a pop-up window appears and says "All images are Pirate4x4". Thanks....

  1. #1

    Default How do I portect my webpage source code?

    How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be viewed or
    downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] and right-click on
    any page, select "view source", a pop-up window appears and says "All images
    are Pirate4x4".

    Thanks.


    A. Help Guest

  2. #2

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    This is such a tricky one and my suggestion for preventing theft of your
    webpage source code is not to upload it to the web simply!

    Try going to View >> Source in IE

    or

    SHIFT + F10

    Both of these will bring up the source code of the page or an option menu
    where you can select view source code.

    --
    << Tim >>
    ---
    "A. Help" <mebadmicrosoft.com> wrote in message
    news:bei941$eus$1forums.macromedia.com...
    | How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be viewed or
    | downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] and right-click
    on
    | any page, select "view source", a pop-up window appears and says "All
    images
    | are Pirate4x4".
    |
    | Thanks.
    |
    |


    Tim L Guest

  3. #3

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    I just love these questions.
    "A. Help" <mebadmicrosoft.com> wrote in message
    news:bei941$eus$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be viewed or
    > downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] and right-click
    on
    > any page, select "view source", a pop-up window appears and says "All
    images
    > are Pirate4x4".
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >

    Showjumper Guest

  4. #4

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    you can sift the forum for responses to this old chestnut

    your point about security is basically a fallacy. in what sense does your
    HTML code have a value that is distinct from your web page when it loads in
    a browser? there's none. HTML is just a bunch of tags. what value is an
    image to someone outside of your site? those 4x4 images are pretty worthless
    outside of their context, namely, the fact that 4x4 is producing content for
    an interest group. you could copy their entire site, change the title
    graphic, and republish, but that wouldn't mean that you now had a viable web
    project of your own.

    if there was a genuine drawback here, then the most heavily branded,
    image-conscious companies, would never venture on to the web. but no,
    they're all present and correct. bottom line, to be on the internet is worth
    so much more than any negatives that come with it. the rest of the business
    world has grasped that, but you're concerned about someone right-clicking on
    your images!

    so here's one solution...
    do a completely password protected site, quarantine potential members until
    their credentials are established, send someone round to their home or
    workplace to supervise their browsing, and then hypnotise them and erase all
    knowledge of your products...

    jason

    "Tim L" <tj_NOSPAMlangfordhotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bei99q$f3a$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > This is such a tricky one and my suggestion for preventing theft of your
    > webpage source code is not to upload it to the web simply!
    >
    > Try going to View >> Source in IE
    >
    > or
    >
    > SHIFT + F10
    >
    > Both of these will bring up the source code of the page or an option menu
    > where you can select view source code.
    >
    > --
    > << Tim >>
    > ---
    > "A. Help" <mebadmicrosoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:bei941$eus$1forums.macromedia.com...
    > | How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be viewed
    or
    > | downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] and right-click
    > on
    > | any page, select "view source", a pop-up window appears and says "All
    > images
    > | are Pirate4x4".
    > |
    > | Thanks.
    > |
    > |
    >
    >

    jason kennedy Guest

  5. #5

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    Any reason you want to hide your code? It's unlikely you've done anything
    revolutionary so is there a reason that you think anyone would be interested
    in it?

    Most people (esp. the experts) willingly share their source code with
    others. Many even write up tutorial pages in their own time explaining to
    others the steps they took to achieve particular effects. That way, others
    can learn or, even better, improve on what they've done and share it further
    with others. That's the nature of the web. It's communal. It's about
    learning together.

    --
    Regards

    John Waller


    John Waller Guest

  6. #6

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    make your entire site out of flash!

    saj


    //snkhan Guest

  7. #7

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    usablility problems, search engine problems, AND there are applications that
    can extract flash .swf files into their components.
    > make your entire site out of flash!
    >
    > saj
    >
    >
    --
    Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
    Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer

    Alan Ames Guest

  8. #8

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    AND there are applications that
    > can extract flash .swf files into their components.
    I think I'd only bother with this if it was a PVII site or equal :-)

    --
    Regards

    John Waller


    John Waller Guest

  9. #9

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    Take a look at this:

    [url]http://www.softdigger.com/encrypthtml.html[/url]

    Might work for you
    Bill Guest

  10. #10

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:59:56 -0700, Bill <nospamnospam.com> wrote:
    >Take a look at this:
    >
    >[url]http://www.softdigger.com/encrypthtml.html[/url]
    >
    >Might work for you
    I've lost count of how many times we've answered this question on this
    newsgroup. You can't hide your web source. Don't waste your time on
    this silly link. I've seen it once already. It's easy to break.

    This link will explain.

    [url]http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/hidesource.htm[/url]


    Paul Taylor
    [url]http://www.technocurve.co.uk[/url]
    Paul Taylor Guest

  11. #11

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:44:42 +0100, "PeterL" <aoqc42dsl.btint.com>
    wrote:
    > How do I secure my webpages so that the code and images can't be
    >>> viewed or downloaded. For example, if you go to [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url]
    >>> and right-click on any page, select "view source", a pop-up window
    >>> appears and says "All images are Pirate4x4".
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >
    >
    >
    >Yes if you use thje right mouse button. This ploy has many routines however
    >what hasn't been disabled is the use of the navbar in IE. go to view>source
    >and there it is. From this point you can access any code on the site! All
    >they have achieved is putting off the casual image grabber.
    >
    >If you want a right mouse button disabler use Google and there are a number
    >of routines there. I had one but can't find it or I'd post it for you.
    >
    >PeterL
    I can't believe people are still recommending right-mouse click
    disablers.

    1. You will seriously disadvantage all left-handed users of your site.

    2. It doesn't work. Any such script you put on your site, and I'll
    show you how to break it. Those who really want to steal your code and
    images will do so. The best way to stop people taking your code and
    images is DON'T PUT THEM ON THE WEB.

    Paul Taylor

    P.S. Below is the source code of the first protected page on the
    [url]www.pirate4x4.com[/url] site suggested above. I have also downloaded all
    their pictures, just to prove it can be done. They will be deleted in
    24 hours, but if anyone wants proof that Ive done it, just ask.

    <html>
    <head>
    <title>Pirate4x4.Com - Your source for extreme rock crawling, tech,
    competitions,
    product reivews, and more!</title>
    <script language="JavaScript">
    <!--
    function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
    var d=doent; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
    var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0;
    i<a.length; i++)
    if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image;
    d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
    }

    function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0
    var i,x,a=doent.MM_sr;
    for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc;
    }

    function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.0
    var p,i,x; if(!d) d=doent;
    if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
    d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].doent; n=n.substring(0,p);}
    if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++)
    x=d.forms[i][n];
    for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++)
    x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].doent);
    if(!x && doent.getElementById) x=doent.getElementById(n);
    return x;
    }

    function MM_swapImage() { //v3.0
    var i,j=0,x,a=MM_swapImage.arguments; doent.MM_sr=new Array;
    for(i=0;i<(a.length-2);i+=3)
    if ((x=MM_findObj(a[i]))!=null){doent.MM_sr[j++]=x; if(!x.oSrc)
    x.oSrc=x.src; x.src=a[i+2];}
    }
    //-->
    </script>
    <script language="JavaScript">
    <!--
    function MM_reloadPage(init) { //reloads the window if Nav4 resized
    if (init==true) with (navigator) {if
    ((appName=="Netscape")&&(pInt(appVersion)==4)) {
    doent.MM_pgW=innerWidth; doent.MM_pgH=innerHeight;
    onresize=MM_reloadPage; }}
    else if (innerWidth!=doent.MM_pgW ||
    innerHeight!=doent.MM_pgH) location.reload();
    }
    MM_reloadPage(true);
    // -->
    </script>
    </head>
    <body bgcolor="#000000" text="#ffffff" link="#ffffff" alink="#ffffff"
    vlink="#00FF00" TOPMARGIN="0" LEFTMARGIN="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0"
    MARGINWIDTH="0"
    onLoad="MM_preloadImages('images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif')">
    <style type="text/css">
    BODY {
    SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #001E00;
    SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffffff;
    }
    SELECT {
    FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
    FONT-SIZE: 11px;
    COLOR: #000000;
    BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CFCFCF
    }

    </style>

    <script language="JavaScript">
    <!--
    function MM_jumpMenu(targ,selObj,restore){ //v3.0

    eval(targ+".location='"+selObj.options[selObj.selectedIndex].value+"'");
    if (restore) selObj.selectedIndex=0;
    }
    //-->
    </script>

    <script language="Javascript1.2">

    // (C) 2000 [url]www.CodeLifter.com[/url]
    // [url]http://www.codelifter.com[/url]
    // Free for all users, but leave in this header

    // Set the message for the alert box
    am = "All images are 2003 Pirate4x4.Com";

    // do not edit below this line
    // ===========================
    bV = pInt(navigator.appVersion)
    bNS = navigator.appName=="Netscape"
    bIE = navigator.appName=="Microsoft Internet Explorer"

    function nrc(e) {
    if (bNS && e.which > 1){
    alert(am)
    return false
    } else if (bIE && (event.button >1)) {
    alert(am)
    return false;
    }
    }

    doent.onmousedown = nrc;
    if (doent.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
    if (bNS && bV<5) window.onmousedown = nrc;

    </script><META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no"><script
    language="Javascript1.2">

    </script>
    <script language="Javascript1.2">

    // (C) 2000 [url]www.CodeLifter.com[/url]
    // [url]http://www.codelifter.com[/url]
    // Free for all users, but leave in this header

    // Set the message for the alert box
    am = "All images are 2003 Pirate4x4.Com";

    // do not edit below this line
    // ===========================
    bV = pInt(navigator.appVersion)
    bNS = navigator.appName=="Netscape"
    bIE = navigator.appName=="Microsoft Internet Explorer"

    function nrc(e) {
    if (bNS && e.which > 1){
    alert(am)
    return false
    } else if (bIE && (event.button >1)) {
    alert(am)
    return false;
    }
    }

    doent.onmousedown = nrc;
    if (doent.layers) window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
    if (bNS && bV<5) window.onmousedown = nrc;

    </script>

    <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td background="/images/border_top.gif"><img
    src="/images/border_top.gif" width="6" height="6"></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td background="/images/template_cruiser.gif" width="255"
    height="37">
    <form method="post" action="">
    <img src="/images/template_spacer.gif" width="10" height="5">
    <select name="menu1" onChange="MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0)">
    <option value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.html"
    selected>- Navigation -</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.html">Home</option>
    <option value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum">Bulletin
    Board</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/chat/chat1.html">Chat</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/links/pages/index.html">Links</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome2.html">Member's Rigs</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/productreviews/">Product
    Reviews</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/scrap/">Scrapbook</option>
    <option
    value="http://saturn.guestworld.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=piratesbook">Sign
    Guestbook</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=44">Stolen
    Stuff</option>
    <option value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/tech.html">Tech
    Dept</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/trailreports/trail_cleanups/">Trail
    Maint</option>
    <option value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/trailreports/">Trail
    Reports</option>
    <option value="http://www.pirate4x4.com/video">Video
    Reviews</option>
    <option
    value="http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=piratesbook">View
    Guestbook</option>
    </select>
    </form>
    </td>
    <td bgcolor="#001E00" height="37">
    <div align="right">
    <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript"
    SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ads/ads.pl?jscript;zone=C">
    </SCRIPT>
    <NOSCRIPT>
    <A
    HREF="http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ads/ads.pl?banner=NonSSI;page=01;zone=C"
    TARGET="_blank"><IMG
    SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ads/ads.pl?page=01;zone=C"
    WIDTH=468 HEIGHT=60 BORDER=0></A>
    </NOSCRIPT>
    </div>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
    background="/images/border_bottom.gif">
    <tr>
    <td height="2"><img src="/images/border_bottom.gif" width="6"
    height="6"></td>
    </tr>
    </table>

    <br>
    <table width="95%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
    align="center">
    <tr>
    <td width="9%" height="479" valign="top">
    <table width="82%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td><a href="forum" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('bb2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/bulletin_board1.gif" width="108"
    height="23" name="bulletin_board1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/chat/chat1.html"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('chat2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/chat1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="chat1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/chicks" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('chick2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/chicks1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="chicks1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/legal" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('legal2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/legal1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="legal1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/links/pages/index.html"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('link2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/links1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="links1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/welcome2.html"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('member2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/members_rigs.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="members_rigs1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/productreviews"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('product2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/product_reviews1.gif" width="108"
    height="23" name="product_reviews1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/scrap/retro!/"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('retro2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/retro1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="retro1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a href="/scrap/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('scrap2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/scrapbook1.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="scrapbook1" border="0"></a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
    <td><a
    href="http://saturn.guestworld.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=piratesbook"
    onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
    onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('sign2','','images/welcome1_images/arrow2.gif',1)"><img
    src="images/welcome1_images/signgb.gif" width="108" height="23"
    name="signgb1" border="0"></a></td>
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    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:28:33 +0100, "PeterL" <aoqc42dsl.btint.com>
    wrote:
    >Paul Taylor wrote:
    >> I can't believe people are still recommending right-mouse click
    >> disablers.
    >>
    >> 1. You will seriously disadvantage all left-handed users of your site.
    >>
    >> 2. It doesn't work. Any such script you put on your site, and I'll
    >> show you how to break it. Those who really want to steal your code and
    >> images will do so. The best way to stop people taking your code and
    >> images is DON'T PUT THEM ON THE WEB.
    >>
    >> Paul Taylor
    >
    >
    >I wasn't advocating the use of these routines at all! I think there had
    >been oenough discussion about the question and as a small test I went to the
    >site mentioned and described how ineffective it was.
    >
    >However the OP asked a question which hadn't been answered so i provided the
    >obvious solution.
    >
    >If you visit any pages on my site you will not find anything protected in
    >any way.
    >
    >PeterL
    I'm sorry, Peter, after I had posted I realised that you were
    advocating nothing of the kind. I should read things more carefully
    before hitting the reply button and sounding off. It's just that we've
    seen people asking this question many times, haven't we?

    Once again, I do apologise for being hasty.


    Paul Taylor
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  13. #13

    Default Re: How do I portect my webpage source code?

    Paul Taylor wrote:
    > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:28:33 +0100, "PeterL"
    > I'm sorry, Peter, after I had posted I realised that you were
    > advocating nothing of the kind. I should read things more carefully
    > before hitting the reply button and sounding off. It's just that we've
    > seen people asking this question many times, haven't we?
    >
    > Once again, I do apologise for being hasty.

    Many thanks Paul no harm done.

    Yes we get asked this time and time and time again!!

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