how do i translate non-ascii chars???

[Gary Kline]

l
Guys,

I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
in full 8859-1.

How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
wedged.

thanks in advance,

gary





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[Kent Stewart]

On Sunday 20 February 2005 10:51 pm, Gary Kline wrote:

> l
> Guys,
>
> I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
> others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
> display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
> in full 8859-1.
>
> How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
> wedged.

When people do this, they are supposed to use the á, à,
and etc. Then, their browser does the correct display on their OS.

Kent

>
> thanks in advance,
>
> gary

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Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

[url]http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html[/url]

[Gary Kline]

On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 11:54:49PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:

> On Sunday 20 February 2005 10:51 pm, Gary Kline wrote:

> > l
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
> > others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
> > display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
> > in full 8859-1.
> >
> > How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
> > wedged.

>
> When people do this, they are supposed to use the á, à,
> and etc. Then, their browser does the correct display on their OS.
>

I didn't explain myself very well, sorry. Befow is a line
from od -c on the index.html file. I'm not sure how this
will be rendered in the different mailers, but in mutt with
nvi, the "B" is surrounded by two iso8859-1 characters.
In mozilla, same way. It is meant to be `B'. I've got over
28 files with what should be apostrophes and bcktcks rendered
this way. putchar() outputs these characters in 8859 form
--as characters. printf("0%o", ch); gives me their octal
values. But trying to catch them with getchar() and it
fails. gcc says that '\0325' is a dounle-wide.

Maybe "od -c" is seeing this file as 16-bit characters...


r h y m i n g Ô B Õ w o r d

gary


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[Kent Stewart]

On Monday 21 February 2005 03:00 pm, Gary Kline wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 11:54:49PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:

> > On Sunday 20 February 2005 10:51 pm, Gary Kline wrote:

> > > l
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
> > > others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
> > > display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
> > > in full 8859-1.
> > >
> > > How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
> > > wedged.

> >
> > When people do this, they are supposed to use the á,
> > à, and etc. Then, their browser does the correct display on
> > their OS.

>
> I didn't explain myself very well, sorry. Befow is a line
> from od -c on the index.html file. I'm not sure how this
> will be rendered in the different mailers, but in mutt with
> nvi, the "B" is surrounded by two iso8859-1 characters.
> In mozilla, same way. It is meant to be `B'. I've got over
> 28 files with what should be apostrophes and bcktcks rendered
> this way. putchar() outputs these characters in 8859 form
> --as characters. printf("0%o", ch); gives me their octal
> values. But trying to catch them with getchar() and it
> fails. gcc says that '\0325' is a dounle-wide.
>
> Maybe "od -c" is seeing this file as 16-bit characters...
>
>
> r h y m i n g Ô B Õ w o r d

Did you try -oc or -hc. I have one file that I translate from a Mac .doc
into html and his bullets translate into what vi sees as the Yen
symbol. I was always able to cut and paste into vi and then supply the
proper character. The problem is that the apostrophe is probably best
handled as "´". There isn't a comparable name for the grave. I
did the bullet translate with something like ":.,$s/¥/\•/",
knowing that it would not appear as a bullet on some computers. I
followed the 80/20 rule and translated it for the PC's.

I have always used the table in Castro's book as the source. She created
a table that works between OSes. Some things such as your grave do not
translate from one system to another. I do not use those characters in
my html. The visual value is only as good as your worst mistake.
Something that doesn't display properly will be viewed as an error by
the viewer.

Kent

>
> gary

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Richland, WA

[url]http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html[/url]

[Karel Miklav]

Gary Kline wrote:

> I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
> others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
> display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
> in full 8859-1.
>
> How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
> wedged.

What about 'man iconv'? You can also open such a file in Vim with ':e
++enc=macroman file.html' or something.

--

Regards,
Karel Miklav

[Matthew Seaman]

On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:51:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

> I've got sseveral HTML files with O-aigu and O-grave and
> others (these files were composed on a Mac. Rather than
> display as ['] (apostrophes) or backticks, they are rendered
> in full 8859-1.
>
> How to I translate these > 128 range characters? I'm
> wedged.

[url]http://tidy.sourceforge.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/[/url]

Both are in ports.

Cheers,

Matthew

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