How do you wrap text around a picture?

[billfurn]

Having problems, just can't seem to do it.

Thanks for any help.

Bill

[Judy Arndt]

Search FH online Help files for 'text wrap'. Note that the image must be on
top of the text. If that's not working, post again, telling us what you're
doing that's not working.

Judy Arndt


billfurn wrote:

> Having problems, just can't seem to do it.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bill

[billfurn]

To: Judy Arndt

This may sound simple to you but believe it or not it almost seems impossible
for me.

I dropped in a round circle I made with the Ellipse Tool, put it over the text
like it said in "help" online. Then did Arrange > Bring To Front. Then went to
the Text menu and clicked Flow Around Selection. I thought I did it exactly
what the help section told me to do. But when I did that, it pushed the text to
the right of the circle.

Thanks again for the post!

Bill

[Judy Arndt]

Bill,
Text wrap is working correctly here, but I don't use it extensively, so if
there's an intermittent bug, I may not have run into it.

There have been reports on this forum of text wrap sometimes not working
properly in various versions of FH. I don't know what would cause it, except
perhaps a corrupt font.

Does this happen with only one font or with all fonts? Does it work with all
text alignments, horizontal scaling, columns, etc. If it's only happening
with one font, perhaps reinstalling the font from the original source would
fix it.

Judy Arndt
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FHMX 11.0.2 (Build 92)
Mac G4, OS 10.3.3



billfurn wrote:

> This may sound simple to you but believe it or not it almost seems impossible
> for me.
>
> I dropped in a round circle I made with the Ellipse Tool, put it over the text
> like it said in "help" online. Then did Arrange > Bring To Front. Then went
> to the Text menu and clicked Flow Around Selection. I thought I did it exactly
> what the help section told me to do. But when I did that, it pushed the text
> to the right of the circle.

[JoeMM]

Place the object on a layer separate from the Text layer. Move the object
layer above the text layer. Select Text - Flow around selection.... Then
enter the standoff value. Works every time as long as the text is on a
separate layer below the selected object(s) layer(s).

[billfurn]

To: Joe MM

I think I am doing everything that you told me. But I don't know what to do in
the standoff value. Once I got the text to move only to the right of the
picture. But after that the text didn't even move around the image.

Thanks for posting

Bill

[Judy Arndt]

Bill,
Perhaps you have your standoff value set incorrectly. The standoff value is
in document measurement units, not points, which can be confusing. This
means that in a document measured in inches, a value of 10 would standoff 10
inches from the picture, not 10 points.

1. As a test, select _both_ the picture and the text.
2. In the text wrap dialog set all standoff fields to 0 (zero). Click Okay.
The text should now be tight around the picture on all sides.
3. Again, with _both_ the picture and the text, selected, set the desired
standoff. If your document unit of measure is in inches, and you want an
eight inch standoff you would enter 0.125.

Is it working correctly now?

For text wrap, many designers prefer to use a separate no-stroke, no-fill
path that is larger than the image, so they don't have to fiddle around with
tedious standoff settings.

Judy Arndt

billfurn wrote:

> I think I am doing everything that you told me. But I don't know what to do in
> the standoff value. Once I got the text to move only to the right of the
> picture. But after that the text didn't even move around the image.

[Judy Arndt]

Oops, little typo, big numerical error! Allow me to add the missing 'h'.

This should read, "If your document unit of measure is in inches, and you
want an *eighth* inch (1/8 in.) standoff you would enter 0.125.

Judy Arndt

I wrote:

> 3. Again, with _both_ the picture and the text, selected, set the desired
> standoff. If your document unit of measure is in inches, and you want an
> eight inch standoff you would enter 0.125.

[JoeMM]

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC), "billfurn"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>To: Joe MM
>
> I think I am doing everything that you told me. But I don't know what to do in
>the standoff value. Once I got the text to move only to the right of the
>picture. But after that the text didn't even move around the image.
>
> Thanks for posting
>
> Bill

Tried to post this on the web forum, but it would not work today, so
lets see if it will work from the newsgroup.

The standoff value is measured in the unit of measure that you
currently have set (points, picas, millimeters, etc.). You can change
the unit of measure at any time while you are working on the document.
You can set different values for top, bottom, left or right of the
object. Leave at zero for no spacing in the offset.

If the selected object is an image, the text flow will only occur
around the edges of the entire image. If you wish to have the text
flow around a specific area of the image do the following:

Create a separate layer that is placed -below- the text layer and
place the image there.
Create a new layer that is placed -above- the text layer and create a
path with no stroke and no fill that encompasses the area you wish to
have wrapped.
Select only the path object on the upper layer and proceed with the
Flow around selection ... procedure.

If not sure about creating layers, see the "Using Freehand" section
under Help.

Use the Layers panel to manipulate layer placement and create new
layers. I find it helpful to lock the image layer and text layer
while creating the path for wrapping in order to avoid inadvertently
moving or manipulating the text or image.

Does this help?

[JoeMM]

The standoff value is measured in the unit of measure that you
currently have set (points, picas, millimeters, etc.). You can change
the unit of measure at any time while you are working on the document.
You can set different values for top, bottom, left or right of the
object. Leave at zero for no spacing in the offset.

If the selected object is an image, the text flow will only occur
around the edges of the entire image. If you wish to have the text
flow around a specific area of the image do the following:

Create a separate layer that is placed -below- the text layer and
place the image there.
Create a new layer that is placed -above- the text layer and create a
path with no stroke and no fill that encompasses the area you wish to
have wrapped.
Select only the path object on the upper layer and proceed with the
Flow around selection ... procedure.

If not sure about creating layers, see the "Using Freehand" section
under Help.

Use the Layers panel to manipulate layer placement and create new
layers. I find it helpful to lock the image layer and text layer
while creating the path for wrapping in order to avoid inadvertently
moving or manipulating the text or image.

Does this help?

[billfurn]

To: Judy

I think the best I'm going to do is to just put the graphic on a different
layer than the text. Leave the bottom layer as the text and put the graphic
above the text layer. I think I will just type the words until I see a uniform
space around the graphic. As for as going to the Flow Around Selection, that
is not working for me at all. There seems to be no way I am going to get the
text to automatically flow around the the graphic object at the flick of that
button. When I do that it insists on going to the right of the object.

Bill

[Wes Rand]

billfurn wrote:

> To: Judy Arndt
>
> This may sound simple to you but believe it or not it almost seems impossible
> for me.
>
> I dropped in a round circle I made with the Ellipse Tool, put it over the text
> like it said in "help" online. Then did Arrange > Bring To Front. Then went to
> the Text menu and clicked Flow Around Selection. I thought I did it exactly
> what the help section told me to do. But when I did that, it pushed the text to
> the right of the circle.
>
> Thanks again for the post!
>
> Bill
>
>
>

Where is the text box in relation to the ellipse? Text can be pushed in
all directions depending on where the object being flowed around is placed.

I find it easier (and Freehand does less freaking out) if I use an
"invisible" object (no stroke or fill) to do the flow around. Just draw
a shape where you want the text to stay out of and then turn on the
"Flow Around" as you did above. You can then reshape the invisible shape
to adjust where the text flows (it helps to put this shape on its own
layer that you can turn to keyline view in the layers panel. That way
you can see the shape without giving it any attributes.

-Wes)

[Simon Watson]

This may sound daft but how big is your text? And do you have lots of words on
each line. If you only have two or three words, and the text box is not wider
than the image I would imagine your text is always going to get pushed to one
side. Perhaps you should take a few screen grabs and post them up a bit of
webspace so we can see your artwork.

Regards

Simon

[billfurn]

Thanks Simon, Judy, Joe for posting!

I think I found my problem :) I was just typing letters, not making words.
Just going "slfsfoijwoeoweoweifiwoefieoifoweifoweioweff" etc.

Sometimes my brain goes on off mode, I zone out :) I'll do things really dumb
and then wonder why it doesn't work. Now that I think of it, it almost makes
me laugh how dumb it was, but I guess learning comes in all types of ways. I
mean with long continuous made-up words with out a break are going to push
everything away from the object. Really, what I was doing is make up a whole
page as one word.

Thanks again for all your postings!

Bill

[Judy Arndt]

Well, Bill, you ought to get a prize for something or another ...

Thanks for 'fessing up.
:-)

Judy Arndt

billfurn wrote:

> I think I found my problem :) I was just typing letters, not making words.
> Just going "slfsfoijwoeoweoweifiwoefieoifoweifoweioweff" etc.
>
> Sometimes my brain goes on off mode, I zone out :)

[JoeMM]

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:59:27 +0000 (UTC), "billfurn"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>Thanks Simon, Judy, Joe for posting!
>
> I think I found my problem :) I was just typing letters, not making words.
>Just going "slfsfoijwoeoweoweifiwoefieoifoweifoweioweff" etc.
>
> Sometimes my brain goes on off mode, I zone out :) I'll do things really dumb
>and then wonder why it doesn't work. Now that I think of it, it almost makes
>me laugh how dumb it was, but I guess learning comes in all types of ways. I
>mean with long continuous made-up words with out a break are going to push
>everything away from the object. Really, what I was doing is make up a whole
>page as one word.
>
> Thanks again for all your postings!
>
> Bill
>

You're welcome Bill. Glad the light finally came on. I have to admit
I have had moments like that also. I guess Simon deserves the credit
for flipping the switch. But keep an eye on Judy ... she is a
treasure trove of good information.

[billfurn]

To: JoeMM and Gang

Thanks again. you all have made the world (internet) a better place by your
support here I can tell.

Learning becomes fun when you have helpfull people like you all.

I just thought, wouldn't it be great if there was a search engine just for
Forums like Google has for "Groups" etc. I think Forums are kind of uncharted
at Google, but in the future, could be of great value to many people. People
could go to the top fourms with a web page dedicated to the best forum of all
topics all over the net:) Updated on a weekly basis with the power of Google.

Bill

[billfurn]

To: Judy

Thanks for your kindness.

Bill

[Danny Whitehead]

billfurn wrote:

> I just thought, wouldn't it be great if there was a search engine just for
> Forums like Google has for "Groups" etc. I think Forums are kind of uncharted
> at Google, but in the future, could be of great value to many people. People
> could go to the top fourms with a web page dedicated to the best forum of all
> topics all over the net:) Updated on a weekly basis with the power of Google.

In case you didn't know, this forum also has newsgroup access (which
many of us prefer to use), so you can search it with Google Groups:

[url]http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=macromedia.freehand[/url]

Also, [url]www.boardreader.com[/url] alows you to search many forums/messageboards,
but I couldn't seem to get any results from this forum from it.

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Danny