HOW TO: put bleed into the middle of a spread?

[Palvey@adobeforums.com]

Please does anyone know how to place a bleed between two pages in a master page spread. We can put a bleed around the top, bottom, left edge and right edge but not in the middle. Alternatively can you separate a master page spread into two separate pages and then put a bleed around each one individually? If so ....how?

[Kenneth_Lasley@adobeforums.com]

Why would you need to?

[Sandee_Cohen@adobeforums.com]

If you need multiple pages with a spine bleed, I suggest you use two separate non-facing pages: one for the left, the other for the right.

Then you can set the bleeds on the masters as well as the document pages.

[Palvey@adobeforums.com]

Yes, this is what we've done.

Many thanks.

Peter.

[Palvey@adobeforums.com]

We want to do this so the printer has a bleed all round, should they wish to have the pages separately.

On the spread pages3 and 4 face each other but in reality if printed on A3, page 3 may face page 140 on the press.

[AlFerrari]

On the spread pages3 and 4 face each other...




So page 3 is a LEFT hand page, is that correct? Then page 1 would be one also. Then, what is on the other SIDE (not facing) of page 1, the front cover or perhaps a blank?

It is more common for page 1 to be a right hand page, though creativity knows no bounds.

Al Ferrari

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

When you make your PDF to go to press.

if you give your self .5inch bleed you will get part of the facing page as your bleed.

[Greg_Gaspard@adobeforums.com]

Instead of making the pages non-facing, you can drag a right-hand page icon to the right in the pages pallete until the cursor changes into a double-headed arrow. When you release, the right page will now be a left page on the next row of the pages pallete. Click and drag the icon until the cursor changes into a right-pointing arrow (go slow, it happens right around the spine edge of the page icon). Release, and you now have a right page. You'd still have to set up separate left and right master pages (A-Left and A-Right, applied appropriately) if you have any master items that bleed or cross the gutter, but local page items should bleed just fine.

Another situation where you might want to do this: spiral-bound books with full bleed.

[Peter_Truskier@adobeforums.com]

spiral-bound books with full bleed.




Right; in which case, having the facing-page content in the bleed area can be as bad as no bleed.

[Mike Witherell]

Peter,

Try this on your facing-pages document:

Turn off *Allow Pages to Shuffle*

Now, drag the single page icons of the spreads a little left or right and they will come apart and show individually; yet be left and right facing pages.

It might be easier to do if you make the page icons larger.

Mike Witherell in Washington DC

[Scott_Falkner@adobeforums.com]

Turn off *Allow Pages to Shuffle*




Dumbest name yet for a feature. Turning off an option called "Allow.." should not make it possible to do things that were previously impossible.

That feature needs to be removed (my vote) and left as though it were off, or renamed so it actually makes sense to somebody.

[Klaus_Scharfenstein@adobeforums.com]

I don't get it ...

You don't like this standard situation:



so you changed it to be like this?



How did you do that?

Klaus

[Mike Witherell]

Maybe we could rename it: Allow Pages to Slouch? Saunter? ... Mosey?

[Mike Witherell]

Klaus, turn off show vertically switches.

Mike

[Mike Witherell]

Actually, it works either way; horizontally or vertically.

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

spiral-bound books with full bleed. Right; in which case, having the facing-page
content in the bleed area can be as bad as no bleed.





If the photo goes across both pages how can you have it any other way?

If both pages are different I agree.

[Klaus_Scharfenstein@adobeforums.com]

turn off show vertically switches




Aargh, where can that be found? (I have to identify that within my German GUI ...)

[by_Buko@adobeforums.com]

where can that be found?




click the arrow in the top right corner of the pages pallet

[Mike Witherell]

Yes, the Pages palette menu button, and go down to palette options.

But that doesn't matter. It is the turning off for *Allow Pages to Shuffle* that allows you to pull the spreads apart.

Mike

[Klaus_Scharfenstein@adobeforums.com]

Well, I don't know. There's something like (directly translated) »Allow new page order«, the forth entry counted from the bottom of the fly-out window. That's the one?