Invisible Processes - Why?

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  1. #1

    Default Invisible Processes - Why?

    How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?

    Download the free game Maple Story ([url]www.mapleglobal.com[/url]) and check out it's
    GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example

    Adahn Guest

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  3. #2

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Because some programs are built this way.

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    --- Original message follows ---
    "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    news:D2F96223-DC62-4F80-9615-C46C1134AA19@microsoft.com...
    > How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?
    >
    > Download the free game Maple Story ([url]www.mapleglobal.com[/url]) and check out
    > it's GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  4. #3

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    I tend to disagree there, programs can hide their processes but only because
    the OS is built to allow them to hide from Task Manager.

    I wouldn't like to hazard whether that's a good or a bad thing, from a
    security point of view probably bad but it might well have some legitimate
    uses.

    Plenty of 3rd party utilities that can show hidden processes though.

    Peter Lawton

    "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:e$quATSRGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > Because some programs are built this way.
    >
    > --
    > Zack Whittaker
    > Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    > » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    > » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    > » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    > » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > not
    > of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >
    >
    > --- Original message follows ---
    > "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    > news:D2F96223-DC62-4F80-9615-C46C1134AA19@microsoft.com...
    >> How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?
    >>
    >> Download the free game Maple Story ([url]www.mapleglobal.com[/url]) and check out
    >> it's GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example
    >
    >

    Peter Lawton Guest

  5. #4

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Peter Lawton wrote:
    > I tend to disagree there, programs can hide their processes but only because
    > the OS is built to allow them to hide from Task Manager.
    >
    > I wouldn't like to hazard whether that's a good or a bad thing, from a
    > security point of view probably bad but it might well have some legitimate
    > uses.
    >
    > Plenty of 3rd party utilities that can show hidden processes though.
    >
    > Peter Lawton
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:e$quATSRGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >> Because some programs are built this way.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Zack Whittaker
    >> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >> not
    >> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >>
    >>
    >> --- Original message follows ---
    >> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >> news:D2F96223-DC62-4F80-9615-C46C1134AA19@microsoft.com...
    >>> How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?
    >>>
    >>> Download the free game Maple Story ([url]www.mapleglobal.com[/url]) and check out
    >>> it's GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example
    >>
    >
    >
    Vista enables rootkits?!?

    --
    capitan
    capitan Guest

  6. #5

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Uh huh.

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    Zack Whittaker
    Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
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    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


    --- Original message follows ---
    "capitan" <c@pi.tan> wrote in message
    news:%235OvNLXRGHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Peter Lawton wrote:
    >> I tend to disagree there, programs can hide their processes but only
    >> because the OS is built to allow them to hide from Task Manager.
    >>
    >> I wouldn't like to hazard whether that's a good or a bad thing, from a
    >> security point of view probably bad but it might well have some
    >> legitimate uses.
    >>
    >> Plenty of 3rd party utilities that can show hidden processes though.
    >>
    >> Peter Lawton
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:e$quATSRGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >>> Because some programs are built this way.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Zack Whittaker
    >>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >>> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >>> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >>> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >>> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >>> not
    >>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --- Original message follows ---
    >>> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >>> news:D2F96223-DC62-4F80-9615-C46C1134AA19@microsoft.com...
    >>>> How come it's still possible for programs to hide their processes?
    >>>>
    >>>> Download the free game Maple Story ([url]www.mapleglobal.com[/url]) and check out
    >>>> it's GameGuard "Hack Prevention System" for an example
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    > Vista enables rootkits?!?
    >
    > --
    > capitan

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  7. #6

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant comments
    has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)

    "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > Uh huh.
    Adahn Guest

  8. #7

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?

    --
    Zack Whittaker
    Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
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    » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


    --- Original message follows ---
    "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant comments
    > has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> Uh huh.
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  9. #8

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank both
    you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two really
    stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.

    "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >
    > --
    > Zack Whittaker
    > Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    > » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    > » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    > » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    > » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > not
    > of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >
    >
    > --- Original message follows ---
    > "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    > news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant comments
    >> has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>> Uh huh.
    >>
    >
    >

    Jason Guest

  10. #9

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Wow :o) Thanks very much :o)

    --
    Zack Whittaker
    Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
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    » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


    --- Original message follows ---
    "Jason" <dsljay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:OO8cSXeRGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank both
    >you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two really
    >stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Zack Whittaker
    >> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >> not
    >> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >>
    >>
    >> --- Original message follows ---
    >> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >> news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>>
    >>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Uh huh.
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  11. #10

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Adahn wrote:
    > Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    > comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> Uh huh.
    >
    I don't know if you are the only one, I can only say I do not agree. I
    find Zack to refreshingly open and honest in all responses about the
    good as well as the bad of Vista. Zack, thanks for your continuing
    objectivity of your posts and thanks for the answer to my question.
    Adahn, I feel the same about your posts here, they are very objective.
    Thank you also.

    --
    capitan
    capitan Guest

  12. #11

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this operating
    system and so do many of you who participate here. I to be part of that
    experiencing of at least helping make people understand what Windows Vista
    is all about based on my perspective an knowledge of the operating system.
    Its a learning experience for and thats probably one of the best things
    about it, we are harnessing each others expertise and benefitting in gooey
    goodness of it all. :-p

    Andrea De Costa - o_O
    --
    --
    Andre
    Windows Connect | [url]http://www.windowsconnected.com[/url]
    Extended64 | [url]http://www.extended64.com[/url]
    Blog | [url]http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre[/url]
    [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]

    "Jason" <dsljay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:OO8cSXeRGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank both
    >you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two really
    >stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Zack Whittaker
    >> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >> not
    >> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >>
    >>
    >> --- Original message follows ---
    >> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >> news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>>
    >>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Uh huh.
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  13. #12

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
    > Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    > comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >
    > "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> Uh huh.
    You are certainly part of a small minority, but probably not the only one.

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  14. #13

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Hey, I just say it how it is :o)

    --
    Zack Whittaker
    Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


    --- Original message follows ---
    "capitan" <c@pi.tan> wrote in message
    news:uTxx1ZgRGHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    > Adahn wrote:
    >> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant comments
    >> has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>> Uh huh.
    >>
    >
    > I don't know if you are the only one, I can only say I do not agree. I
    > find Zack to refreshingly open and honest in all responses about the good
    > as well as the bad of Vista. Zack, thanks for your continuing objectivity
    > of your posts and thanks for the answer to my question. Adahn, I feel the
    > same about your posts here, they are very objective. Thank you also.
    >
    > --
    > capitan

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  15. #14

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    The grammar stunk in that one:
    Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this operating
    system and so do many of you who participate here. To be a part of that
    experience of at least helping to make people understand what Windows Vista
    is all about based on my perspective and knowledge of the operating system.
    Its a learning experience for me and thats probably one of the best things
    about it, we are harnessing each others expertise and benefitting in the
    gooey
    goodness of it all.
    --
    --
    Andre
    Windows Connect | [url]http://www.windowsconnected.com[/url]
    Extended64 | [url]http://www.extended64.com[/url]
    Blog | [url]http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre[/url]
    [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]

    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:O1VJm4gRGHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this operating
    > system and so do many of you who participate here. I to be part of that
    > experiencing of at least helping make people understand what Windows Vista
    > is all about based on my perspective an knowledge of the operating system.
    > Its a learning experience for and thats probably one of the best things
    > about it, we are harnessing each others expertise and benefitting in gooey
    > goodness of it all. :-p
    >
    > Andrea De Costa - o_O
    > --
    > --
    > Andre
    > Windows Connect | [url]http://www.windowsconnected.com[/url]
    > Extended64 | [url]http://www.extended64.com[/url]
    > Blog | [url]http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre[/url]
    > [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]
    >
    > "Jason" <dsljay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:OO8cSXeRGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank
    >>both you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two
    >>really stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>> Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Zack Whittaker
    >>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >>> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >>> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >>> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >>> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    >>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    >>> not
    >>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --- Original message follows ---
    >>> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >>> news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>>>
    >>>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Uh huh.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  16. #15

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    And there's nothing wrong with gooey goodness ;)


    Jane Colman Guest

  17. #16

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    I love gooey goodness... usually comes in the form of something wrapped with
    chocolate on the inside :o) Hmm....

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    » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
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    » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
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    of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


    --- Original message follows ---
    "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
    news:uCl3mRjRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > And there's nothing wrong with gooey goodness ;)
    >

    Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\) Guest

  18. #17

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    There is nothing wrong with being spoiled every now and then. ;)
    --
    --
    Andre
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    [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]

    "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
    news:uCl3mRjRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > And there's nothing wrong with gooey goodness ;)
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  19. #18

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    Zack wrote: Hey, I just say it how it is......sometimes :o)

    :-p
    --
    --
    Andre
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    "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ulYs83hRGHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > Hey, I just say it how it is :o)
    >
    > --
    > Zack Whittaker
    > Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    > » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    > » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    > » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    > » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > not
    > of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
    >
    >
    > --- Original message follows ---
    > "capitan" <c@pi.tan> wrote in message
    > news:uTxx1ZgRGHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    >> Adahn wrote:
    >>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam? :)
    >>>
    >>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Uh huh.
    >>>
    >>
    >> I don't know if you are the only one, I can only say I do not agree. I
    >> find Zack to refreshingly open and honest in all responses about the good
    >> as well as the bad of Vista. Zack, thanks for your continuing
    >> objectivity of your posts and thanks for the answer to my question.
    >> Adahn, I feel the same about your posts here, they are very objective.
    >> Thank you also.
    >>
    >> --
    >> capitan
    >
    >

    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

  20. #19

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    If that's the case then I think I am Adahn share a passion for *unified
    UI* for *all* Microsoft operating system...


    Note I didn't use capital letters this time...

    --
    Nicholas...

    "Overclock Your Life, Then The World"
    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:O1VJm4gRGHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this
    > operating system and so do many of you who participate here. I to be
    > part of that experiencing of at least helping make people understand
    > what Windows Vista is all about based on my perspective an knowledge
    > of the operating system. Its a learning experience for and thats
    > probably one of the best things about it, we are harnessing each
    > others expertise and benefitting in gooey goodness of it all. :-p
    >
    > Andrea De Costa - o_O
    > --
    > --
    > Andre
    > Windows Connect | [url]http://www.windowsconnected.com[/url]
    > Extended64 | [url]http://www.extended64.com[/url]
    > Blog | [url]http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre[/url]
    > [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]
    >
    > "Jason" <dsljay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:OO8cSXeRGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to thank
    >>both you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but you two
    >>really stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your support.
    >>
    >> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>> Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Zack Whittaker
    >>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >>> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >>> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >>> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >>> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers
    >>> no
    >>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
    >>> and not
    >>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that
    >>> one!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --- Original message follows ---
    >>> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >>> news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam?
    >>>> :)
    >>>>
    >>>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>> news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Uh huh.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    Guest

  21. #20

    Default Re: Invisible Processes - Why?

    oops, and grammatical error like Andre...

    If that's the case then I think I *and* Adahn share a passion for
    *unified and consistence
    UI* for *all* Microsoft operating system starting from 2006...

    --
    Nicholas...

    "Overclock Your Life, Then The World"
    <Nicholas> wrote in message
    news:eF4QXTmRGHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > If that's the case then I think I am Adahn share a passion for
    > *unified UI* for *all* Microsoft operating system...
    >
    >
    > Note I didn't use capital letters this time...
    >
    > --
    > Nicholas...
    >
    > "Overclock Your Life, Then The World"
    > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:O1VJm4gRGHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >> Thank you very much, Zack and I both share a passion for this
    >> operating system and so do many of you who participate here. I to be
    >> part of that experiencing of at least helping make people understand
    >> what Windows Vista is all about based on my perspective an knowledge
    >> of the operating system. Its a learning experience for and thats
    >> probably one of the best things about it, we are harnessing each
    >> others expertise and benefitting in gooey goodness of it all. :-p
    >>
    >> Andrea De Costa - o_O
    >> --
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Windows Connect | [url]http://www.windowsconnected.com[/url]
    >> Extended64 | [url]http://www.extended64.com[/url]
    >> Blog | [url]http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre[/url]
    >> [url]http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta[/url]
    >>
    >> "Jason" <dsljay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:OO8cSXeRGHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>I guess he didn't understand what Uh huh.ment. I really want to
    >>>thank both you and Andrea De Costa. I am sure there are others, but
    >>>you two really stand out in this forum. Thank you for all of your
    >>>support.
    >>>
    >>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:Ofr3bncRGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Why would you say that? I gave an answer didn't I?
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Zack Whittaker
    >>>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
    >>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk[/url]
    >>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: [url]http://msblog.resdev.net[/url]
    >>>> » ZackNET Forum: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/forum[/url]
    >>>> » VistaBase: [url]www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase[/url]
    >>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers
    >>>> no
    >>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated
    >>>> so, and not
    >>>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that
    >>>> one!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> --- Original message follows ---
    >>>> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
    >>>> news:ej1SE4YRGHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Am I the only one who feels that the number of Zack's irrelevant
    >>>>> comments has long gone beyond just toeing the borderline of spam?
    >>>>> :)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in
    >>>>> message news:%23fYlc5XRGHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Uh huh.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

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