is PMS647 = pantone 647 CVC in illustrator? - Adobe Illustrator Windows

[Jefrey_Lai@adobeforums.com]

My client gave me PMS 647, is this code = pantone 647 CVC in illustrator?
Is that a spot color or process color?
What is the different between CVC and C? (I know C means Coated)
Any help will be appericated.

Jefrey

[Dean Fritzel]

Jefrey, check this site out:

<http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/color/a/pms_suffix.htm>

Below is a quick reference.

U = uncoated paper
C = coated paper
M = matte paper
CV = computer video (electronic simulation)
CVU = computer video - uncoated
CVC = computer video - coated

Dean F

[LenHewitt@adobeforums.com]

Jefrey,

>>is this code = pantone 647 CVC in illustrator?<<

Quick answer is 'Yes'.

The full answer is that Pantone no longer use 'PMS' and, as they have
updated their colour libraries it is possible that pantone 647 CVC will not
match a "PMS647" swatch. Should be OK if printing spot, however, (assuming a
coated swatch and printing on coated stock)

[Jefrey_Lai@adobeforums.com]

Thank you Dean, thats so helpful.

Jefrey

[Jefrey_Lai@adobeforums.com]

LenHewitt, what would happen as I am printing process?
how do i get the correct PMS647? tnx

[LenHewitt@adobeforums.com]

Jeffrey,

>>what would happen as I am printing process?<<

Well, there is never any guarantee that you will be able to truly match a
spot colour in CMYK. Many spot inks are created BECAUSE that colour is not
reproducible by CMYK inks.

If you have your monitor calibrated well, and are using a proper CMS
workflow, the on-screen preview should be very close to the printed result.

[Jacob_Bugge@adobeforums.com]

Jefrey,

To me, 647CVC does not look like a colour outside the CMYK gamut so I believe 94/43/0/38 would be a fine match.

What do you think, Len?

[LenHewitt@adobeforums.com]

Jacob,

Giving CMYK percentages without an ICC profile is meaningless. The figures
you quote could well be perfect on your machine and outputting to your
chosen press/media, but that doesn't mean to say they will be for my machine
outputting to my chosen press/media.

As an example, with Euroscale as the chosen CMYK working space, the
conversion I see is 95,62,20,6 which is somewhat lighter than your suggested
values.

Numbers in a file DO NOT represent specific colours UNTIL they are coupled
with an ICC profile.

Assuming both you and I are using accurate profiles for our respective
output, you could use your figures, I could use my figures and the two
outputs be indistinguishable.

So which is "right"? - The answer is either "Both" or "Neither"... <g>