It never ends. . . . yeah right

[atomseed webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

I had to comment on this. First off, even if Microsoft adds all the functions and .NET is really good. The problem is always going to be their interfaces. None of their interfaces are user friendly, the learning curve for employees is really hard for MS Products. Now Macromedia on the other hand, uses Flash tutorials so you can learn their software! HAHA... How ingenius is that. Besides, I don't want Microsoft having the monopoly even if their product is better! Can't stand their interfaces and crappy help systems.

Now, about Flash. So why does Live Motion export the SWF? Hmmm... sounds fishy. So many people knock flash, but when someone at their job wants to show them some cool Cartoon or whatever, guess what they will be watching... FLASH.

I took a class for After Effects and it has go to be one of the best programs for video I have ever used. I know use Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, PDF's, Premiere and looking into Encore now. OH ya, Adobe just bought Cool Edit Pro (adobe is calling it Audition).

Although, Adobe is great for all those products. Dreamweaver and Flash are the best web tools I could find and EASY to learn. When you start using After Effects, you will see how well After Effects, Photosop and Flash work together. It's really quite SICK! Although Adobe has been trying, the Adobe Studio is still lacking what the Dreamweaver Exchange has, access to mega plugins and SUPPORT!

I agree, the Macromedia site is not User Friendy, Loads Slow and is "Clunky". It really bums me out, when you download and extension or look at page, then you hit back in your browser and it comes up with page not found or something (wait, I just tested it... and it works now!).

Oh ya, Macromedia's new interfaces (MX) ROCK!

[DouglasWD webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Well, thanks for all teh responses. Most of you are more fa,miliar with teh technilogical side of the internet than I am, but I would like to offer a few more 'evidence' type of comments. Then I will let you all reply and end the thread so we can all get back to work.

1) Page maker is no longer. In Design is the replacement. My brother is curently at Humboldt State University majoring in Environmental Interpretation, and thuis has to take all of the graphics and presentation classes. They did NO web stuff, but for all otehr aplication, such as billboards, state fishery exhibitions (The ones you see on teh wals, etc., at State parks) the entire class was adobe. They used photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and Acrobat. Apple gives all schools great deals on teir machines, but many schools and Universoties have equal PCs. In my home town, the school districts are moving to PCs only because they are dominate and thus more practical for students to learn how to work with. It is too hard to justify from a teaching standpoint using MACs any longer ( In grades K-12). In the high schools I recently taught in, there is a mixture still of older MACS, but theya re now being replaced by PCs.

Linux/Unix for networking in the schools in my county are pretty much history, replaced by MS XP Server/Client. However, I am glad to see Linux taking off in the PC market because I think MS is way to into everything, and that scares me.

Front Page is a professional joke, but when you can integrate net with it, such as VB and the other stuff, it becomes pretty strong. Of course you can build a site anyway you want and it will run on NET infastructure, and for the comnet about how hard MS prodicts are to learn, true, but things always get easier: DOS, Win 3.11, Manual IRQ settings, plug and play, adn now to Win XP and USB. You get the point.

And my very point is that MM will have a real place with all the MS products, even is FP does eventual swollow up Dreamweaver if and when MS takes over with its NET, given that we all start coding web pages in Flash.

I seriously doubt the entire web will move over to Flash, like 90% of the MM website though. It just isn't going to happen. PEople will finally figure out that Flash is good at certain things, like advertising and if needed, moving diagrams, like the Flash tutorial. But they will also relaize that having a moving picture on your main web page distracts people and makes it harder for their eyes to concentrate on specific information, and they will wise up and stop using it for simply eye candy appeal. I'm not talking about all webs, only information driven sites where content is the main attraction.

OK, well, glad to hear from you all. Let's hear your closing comments. At least we all agree on the most important thing--MM's website needs to offer us a NON Flash version that is more efficient for us to use. It always happens like this though. When a company feels it has a safe somewhat of a monopoly on a product, they stop giving its users what they want and instead give them what ever they feell will primote their product.


Ignore my stupidity--it's biological!

[orangemozzie]

um...................

PageMaker is in fact still available.

I see the spelling hasnt improved either

before you spent all this time whining about products, why didnt you just
ask for a non-Flash website in the first place????

[Bonnie In Sacramento]

"atomseed" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:bf1j68$q4q$1@forums.macromedia.com...
<<As far as the spelling goes... WHO CARES... it's just a message in a
forum, not a Business Proposal!>>

Uh, well, I do . . . it's hard to read a foreign language when you don't
know which one it's supposed to be. ;-)

Bonnie (okay, I admit it, I was an English major, but I didn't learn English
grammar until I had to learn German!)

[atomseed webforumsuser@macromedia.com]

Sounds like a Personal problem to me... 8)